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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on January 16, 2015, 09:32:04 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026095887
Oh my.
Now remember, SSDI isn't the same thing as social security disability, a fund into which one's paid while working. SSDI is for those who never worked, period, or who didn't work enough years to pay much into social security.
Kaleva (13,867 posts) Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:21 PM
A 20% reduction in SSDI benefits would drop me to $926 a month
I'd survive with the following monthly budget:
$50 property taxes
$45 property insurance
$50 water/sewer
$30 garbage pickup
$35 gas
$30 electricity
$70 phone/internet/Netflix
$60 Moped payment
$16 prescription co-pay
$41 dog medication
$150 payments on local accounts (hospital, hardware store, appliance stores)
$250 food/pet food
$827 total
Which would leave me a about $100 for any other expenses.
New thread; no primitive responses yet.
But if $926 a month is only 80% of the primitive's current windfall he gets from the hard-pressed taxpayers, that means he's presently getting circa $1,111 a month, tax free.
<<<knows working people making less than $1,111 a month.
The beneficiaries of taxpayers' bounty should never live higher than the taxpayers themselves.
<<<waiting for Pork Chops, the Odin2005 primitive, to weigh in.
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That was quick, the primitive responses.
SamKnause (3,140 posts) Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:33 PM
1. A 20% reduction will leave me with
$882.00 per month.
^^^the primitive's currently getting $1,057 a month free money.
1StrongBlackMan (16,585 posts) Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:35 PM
4. Clearly, you do not need that dog ...
It wastes 1/3 of your budget! And, while you're at it ... dump the moped and phone/internet/Netflix. We, in America, likes our poor people to look poor!
{I hope you recognize the sarcasm}
I am hopeful that this won't happen ... there are too many SD recipients in Red districts.
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One of the Top DUmmies of 2014 continuing his run:
TheMastersNemesis (4,364 posts) Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:34 PM
2. The GOP Still Thinks You Get Too Much.
People who are effected need to show up at GOP offices and shut them down and just raise hell.
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A primitive who apparently doesn't get along with her brother:
hollysmom (3,253 posts) Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:43 PM
8. Sorry your dog is sick
I wrote my congress man and senators - Hope it helps. I have friends on disability as well, it is not easy for them to make it. My brother got hit by a barrel at work a huge industrial barrel, he cant walk very much anymore, too painful, his legs are crooked. He is on disability. The last thing I want to do is have him move in with me. I have a house of stairs, I would have to add a room and a bathroom but worse, he would be living with me. I don't think I could take that. I really don't want them to reduce disability.
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1StrongBlackMan (16,585 posts) Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:35 PM
4. Clearly, you do not need that dog ...
It wastes 1/3 of your budget! And, while you're at it ... dump the moped and phone/internet/Netflix. We, in America, likes our poor people to look poor!
{I hope you recognize the sarcasm}
I am hopeful that this won't happen ... there are too many SD recipients in Red districts.
No you hammer headed dumb fuk...I want a person living on the disabilty dole to truly be disabled to receive it.
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No you hammer headed dumb fuk...I want a person living on the disabilty dole to truly be disabled to receive it.
:clap:
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hollysmom (3,253 posts) Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:43 PM
8. Sorry your dog is sick
I wrote my congress man and senators - Hope it helps. I have friends on disability as well, it is not easy for them to make it. My brother got hit by a barrel at work a huge industrial barrel, he cant walk very much anymore, too painful, his legs are crooked. He is on disability. The last thing I want to do is have him move in with me. I have a house of stairs, I would have to add a room and a bathroom but worse, he would be living with me. I don't think I could take that. I really don't want them to reduce disability.
I surrendered my entire life to care for two elderly and infirmed parents.
I hope you soon get to become equated with that special place in hell that has your name on it. :bird:
What a vile bunch of selfish bastards.
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SheilaT (16,737 posts) Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:46 PM
9. Shouldn't he also do without gas and electricity?
After all, they are luxuries the Third World poor don't enjoy.
And the sad thing is, the people who want to cut SSDI really do believe that.
No, DUmmie, that's not what we believe.
We believe that people who don't work shouldn't live more luxuriously than people who do work.
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$60/mo for a moped? WTF? You can new ones for under $500.
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DUmmies consider constant complaining and perpetual rage as a disability. :mental:
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Takket (1,062 posts) Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:54 PM
14. Allow me to approach your problem like a Republican would...
$70 for phone, internet and Netflix? Internet and Netflix are a luxury, not an entitlement. you can keep the phone. That should cut you down to about $30.
$41 dog medication. Dog medication? Those benefits are for your survival, not that dog's. We can cut $41 more out of your budget, I'm sure you understand how. That takes care of the $250 pet food bill too.
So we've just cut another $321 out of your budget. You already said you had $100 left over after the 20%, so you are getting $421 more than you really need.
Obviously a 20% cut was not enough. We should take more.
Thanks for the advice,
The Republican Party.
Not trying to be a smart ass. This is really how these people think........
I dunno how Republicans in general would approach it, but yeah, that's what franksolich as an individual thinks.
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1StrongBlackMan (16,587 posts) Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:59 PM
17. You forgot the ...
"Get job!" Grumble.
Har-dee-har.
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Thanks to Ptarmigan, who just posted this elsewhere on the site:
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=100333.0
Supersize benefits family claims £50,000 in handouts every year and spend cash on designer trainers and mopeds - but mother claims it isn't enough to live on
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913336/Supersize-benefits-family-claims-50-000-handouts-year-spend-cash-designer-trainers-mopeds.html
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They cost the taxpayer £50,000 a year in benefits and have hardly lifted a finger in their lives, but members of this family can still afford to blow their cash on designer trainers and mopeds.
The Kerrigans, from Sheffield, claim tens of thousands of pounds in benefits for their taxpayer-funded lives and insist they are simply getting what they are entitled to.
Most of them have never worked, claiming handouts straight out of school, but still say they should be given more money.
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Response to Kaleva (Original post)
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:47 PM
SheilaT (16,738 posts)
11. Actually, in all seriousness,
you might want to start putting as much as possible on credit cards, and a few years down the road declare bankruptcy. Or, hooking up with a debt reduction agency.
:banghead: :censored:
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Thanks to Ptarmigan, who just posted this elsewhere on the site:
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=100333.0
It happened in Great Britain, which happens easily in America. Sickening! :argh:
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hollysmom (3,253 posts) Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:43 PM
8. Sorry your dog is sick
I wrote my congress man and senators - Hope it helps. I have friends on disability as well, it is not easy for them to make it. My brother got hit by a barrel at work a huge industrial barrel, he cant walk very much anymore, too painful, his legs are crooked. He is on disability. The last thing I want to do is have him move in with me. I have a house of stairs, I would have to add a room and a bathroom but worse, he would be living with me. I don't think I could take that. I really don't want them to reduce disability.
What a selfish b***h. She isn't worried about HIM, she's worried about how it will affect HER. Typical DUmmie thinking.
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What a selfish b***h. She isn't worried about HIM, she's worried about how it will affect HER. Typical DUmmie thinking.
That is some pretty despicable shit right there, I wonder how she reconciles that with her "progressive" views?
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A primitive who apparently doesn't get along with her brother:
hollysmom (3,253 posts) Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:43 PM
8. Sorry your dog is sick
I wrote my congress man and senators - Hope it helps. I have friends on disability as well, it is not easy for them to make it. My brother got hit by a barrel at work a huge industrial barrel, he cant walk very much anymore, too painful, his legs are crooked. He is on disability. The last thing I want to do is have him move in with me. I have a house of stairs, I would have to add a room and a bathroom but worse, he would be living with me. I don't think I could take that. I really don't want them to reduce disability.
Response to Kaleva (Reply #12)
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 09:16 PM
hollysmom (3,254 posts)
20. Hugs to you, Mine are rescue dogs as well.
still don't want old sour puss, my brother living with me, he lives to complain.
The irony meter spins off the wall.
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It's easy to be a smartass about this, particularly with a psychological diagnosis, but while I certainly have met people on it who were scammers, I've also known people who really should be on it, because they really can't function in the shark-infested real world, but they don't really know about the whole thing or it simply has never occurred to them to even try.
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It's easy to be a smartass about this, particularly with a psychological diagnosis, but while I certainly have met people on it who were scammers, I've also known people who really should be on it, because they really can't function in the shark-infested real world, but they don't really know about the whole thing or it simply has never occurred to them to even try.
As you know, sir, I'm sort of a prime candidate to get aboard the disability gravy train; being deaf, significant speech impediments, no right elbow, massive ulcers, those sorts of things. And now a heart "condition" too.
It's been suggested to me I dunno how many times.....
What I'd get riding the gravy train, and what income I currently earn, are about equal. Of course, on the gravy train, I'd also get "benefits" such as free medical care.
**** that shit. I'd rather be working. I like being my own man, owned by no one but God and myself.
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Which would leave me a about $100 for any other expenses.
Like you're not already on food stamps. SSDI and EBT go hand in hand like peas and carrots.
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Kaleva (13,867 posts) Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:21 PM
A 20% reduction in SSDI benefits would drop me to $926 a month
I'd survive with the following monthly budget:
$50 property taxes
$45 property insurance
$50 water/sewer
$30 garbage pickup
$35 gas
$30 electricity
$70 phone/internet/Netflix
$60 Moped payment
$16 prescription co-pay
$41 dog medication
$150 payments on local accounts (hospital, hardware store, appliance stores)
$250 food/pet food
$827 total
Which would leave me a about $100 for any other expenses.
No rent or mortgage? Are we paying for that also? :(
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Almost $200.00 for dog a month...
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Almost $200.00 for dog a month...
Who else but a dog could love a DUmmie.....and they have to pay for it.
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Oh my.
Now remember, SSDI isn't the same thing as social security disability, a fund into which one's paid while working. SSDI is for those who never worked, period, or who didn't work enough years to pay much into social security.
Frank, I think you are wrong. SSDI is Social Security Disability Insurance. SSI is Supplemental Security Income. These are the definitions, from the Social Security website.
http://www.ssa.gov/disability/
Social Security Disability Insurance pays benefits to you and certain members of your family if you are "insured," meaning that you worked long enough and paid Social Security taxes.
Supplemental Security Income pays benefits based on financial need.
I bet if this DUmmie's SSDI were eliminated entirely, it would find that it could indeed work for a paycheck to pay for its moped and dog food.
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As you know, sir, I'm sort of a prime candidate to get aboard the disability gravy train; being deaf, significant speech impediments, no right elbow, massive ulcers, those sorts of things. And now a heart "condition" too.
It's been suggested to me I dunno how many times.....
What I'd get riding the gravy train, and what income I currently earn, are about equal. Of course, on the gravy train, I'd also get "benefits" such as free medical care.
**** that shit. I'd rather be working. I like being my own man, owned by no one but God and myself.
With all due respect, not everybody is you, or able to fully function socially and at work in spite of their disabilities as you can.
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Where did the supposed 20% cut idea come from? I have not heard of this before.
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Where did the supposed 20% cut idea come from? I have not heard of this before.
The new House changed a rule making that prevents a siphoning off the SS old age trust fund to feed the SS disability trust fund which is racing over the bankruptcy cliff at full throttle.
Without the FICA revenue we all pay the alternative is to reduce benefits payed out for disability.
The House wants any new moneys for SSDI to be actually paid for and not just swiped from the traditional SS trust fund.
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Frank, I think you are wrong. SSDI is Social Security Disability Insurance. SSI is Supplemental Security Income. These are the definitions, from the Social Security website.I bet if this DUmmie's SSDI were eliminated entirely, it would find that it could indeed work for a paycheck to pay for its moped and dog food.
I appreciate being corrected, madam.
As you might guess, I'm not intimately acquainted with give-away programs, and supposed that from other comments other times that SSDI was the free one, into which one hadn't ever contributed social security.
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SheilaT (16,737 posts) Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:46 PM
9. Shouldn't he also do without gas and electricity?
Yes, he should. Gas and electricity are produced from fossil fuels, which creates Gorebull Warmingtm.
DUmmie Sheila T isn't down for the struggle.
As you know, sir, I'm sort of a prime candidate to get aboard the disability gravy train; being deaf, significant speech impediments, no right elbow, massive ulcers, those sorts of things. And now a heart "condition" too.
It's been suggested to me I dunno how many times.....
What I'd get riding the gravy train, and what income I currently earn, are about equal. Of course, on the gravy train, I'd also get "benefits" such as free medical care.
**** that shit. I'd rather be working. I like being my own man, owned by no one but God and myself.
Bravo, frank! :clap: My sentiments exactly!
Hi 5, and Amen, brother!
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With all due respect, not everybody is you, or able to fully function socially and at work in spite of their disabilities as you can.
Seriously, I have a problem with this, a big problem.
Whenever I move to someplace new, such as this place fourteen years ago, to save time and trouble, I simply contact the nearest office of state vocational rehabilitation, an agency that's known me for, well, a very long time, asking them to find me a job.
It's easier and quicker; I don't have to waste time reading help-wanted advertisements, writing applications and resumes, and burning shoe-leather.
They have my file--and it's a very thick file--and they know people in the area, whereas I don't, and people in the area don't know me, but they know and trust them.
For them, it takes just one telephone call--"Hey, I've got a guy here who'll work out for you really well; he's a great guy, top-notch, top of the line, with an impressive work record," after which further information is given from the files--and I've been hired immediately, no application, no interview, no references (although of course available) requested.
It greatly uncomplicates this life, not having to bother with any of that myself.
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However, last time the agency insisted I had to file for social security disability. I wasn't happy about it, and I'm sure that showed on the application.
An attorney, when looking at it, said, "If I were an examiner, I'd need to hear what you can't do, rather than what you can do. All you've done here is brag about what you can do despite your impediments."
After which an impasse, and nothing further came of it.
I told him my mind's never worked that way; I'd never in my life thought of things I can't do, only along the lines of things I can do, and things I haven't tried yet.
Think of it. I've worked, and still on occasion, work, as a retail clerk--despite the magnificent four-year college diploma--a job that of course requires much communicative give-and-take with other people.
I'm deaf. I can't hear. And because I disguise the deafness, other people aren't aware of it.
Really, now. Has anyone ever met a deaf person running a cash-register or answering questions about products and services?
Well, I guess I decades ago proved yes, a deaf person can do such things, and I resent any thought that we can't.
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And thus my unbridled contempt for primitives such as Pork Chops, the Odin2005 primitive, who hasn't even ever tried.
Never mind his "Asperger's" (or whatever it is), never mind "learning disabilities; I've been through all of that. It's not unsurmountable. If one can't get through a wall, one can always walk around it, or dig under it, or fly over it.
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At times I sit back in amusement, watching as the primitives fantasize that franksolich is possessed of great intellectual and manipulative talents, when in reality the real-life person behind franksolich doesn't have the talents and resources of hearing people, and even most primitives.
The stories I've written here about life in the Sandhills are true, sometimes fiction based upon real-life experiences, but generally true (the people, the events, the feelings), but if one notices carefully, there's always an underlying theme; that of a deaf person with scant resources trying the best he can, to get along.....and usually succeeding.
Sorry about this long rant, but this is really one of those things that gets me all pissed off and bent out of shape; people who say "I can't" when they haven't even tried, and so think it's the obligation of the rest of us to carry them.
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I really hate constant complainers. DUmmies and libtards all they do is rage and complain about how life is always unfair to them. They see a world that is unjust and always screwing them over. They just wallow in their anger.
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What a selfish b***h. She isn't worried about HIM, she's worried about how it will affect HER. Typical DUmmie thinking.
Toxic people.
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People who are effected need to show up at GOP offices and shut them down and just raise hell.
They have nothing else to do. Like work, or anything.
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The new House changed a rule making that prevents a siphoning off the SS old age trust fund to feed the SS disability trust fund which is racing over the bankruptcy cliff at full throttle.
Without the FICA revenue we all pay the alternative is to reduce benefits payed out for disability.
The House wants any new moneys for SSDI to be actually paid for and not just swiped from the traditional SS trust fund.
So, Republicans are trying to restore the "Social Security lock box" that Manbearpig talked about in his failed presidential campaign? For what purpose? Are they trying to ensure that some portion, no matter how small, of the money that current workers pay into the system comes back to them (i.e. the 20-40 year olds who otherwise won't see a dime of that money back)? And this is bad, why?