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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: Eupher on January 13, 2015, 04:34:29 PM
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Details have been bleeding into the press for days now, and the emerging picture strongly suggests that the GOP's 2012 presidential nominee is angling to take a third crack at a White House run after all.
Mitt Watch: 2016 struck me as a silly exercise as recently as a few months ago, when the former Massachusetts governor was still adamantly denying that he harbored any intention of entering the fray. Then, with Jeb Bush making tell-tale moves toward launching a presidential campaign, I further reasoned that the likelihood of Romney jumping in was growing even more remote. With a well-known, well-funded, well-connected Republican establishment-leaning standard bearer planting his flag in a major way, any remaining raison d'être for a Romney candidacy would basically vanish, right? Wrong, according to a "senior GOP source:"
Rest of the RINO News at the link. :whatever:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2015/01/13/sources-mitt-romneys-probably-going-run-again-after-all-n1942075?utm_source=thdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm&newsletterad=thpm1
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We'll end up with Mitt, Jeb, Christie, a couple of other RINOs and maybe one conservative in the mix for the primaries.
The MSM will tell us that the conservative doesn't have a chance of winning the general election and people will vote for a RINO. One of the RINOs will take an early lead in the primaries and people will jump on that bandwagon.
I really wish that the GOP had a national primary on 1 or 2 days.
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We'll end up with Mitt, Jeb, Christie, a couple of other RINOs and maybe one conservative in the mix for the primaries.
The MSM will tell us that the conservative doesn't have a chance of winning the general election and people will vote for a RINO. One of the RINOs will take an early lead in the primaries and people will jump on that bandwagon.
I really wish that the GOP had a national primary on 1 or 2 days.
Cruz -- they said he had no chance here in TX and then he could not make a difference after he won. He has been miunderestimated up until now and will continue to be so.
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Mitt is probably going to run again
:banghead:
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There is no enthusiasm in IA for Hillary, Jeb, Romney, Christie.
I hear a lot of insider chatter, will share whenever I can. Not always reliable. But I find it amusing the stuff you read on national sites and the local rag Des Moines Register. They fawn over the aforementioned four. They mostly ignore the Santorum, Walker, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Ted Cruz, Ben Carson, Bobby Jindal & other backers that will likely have the support of hardcore caucus attendees.
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Huckabee also can be added to the above list.
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Whatever candidate or combination of candidates that it takes to dump Hitlery on the trash heap of history, I am all for.
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There is no enthusiasm in IA for Hillary, Jeb, Romney, Christie.
A guy who worked for me during my last active duty tour had been politically active in IA, from his description of the caucus process, the results have everything to do with organization and relentless partisanship, and almost nothing to do with real popular support. Maybe he was jaded, I don't know, but I'm glad the caucus system isn't the main way candidates get picked.
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In order to win the Repub. nomination, a candidate must have gobs of money. Mitt can easily get his stash from rich Yankee rhinos (liberals). Jeb Bush can match him. Hate to say it but the rest do not have a chance because they do not have enough funds at the end to compete. Money talks and BS walks.
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I have held my nose and voted RINO for president in the last two elections.....somebody is going to have to smash my balls to make me do it again.
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In a way this might not be a bad deal for Conservatives. Christie, Romney and Bush will not only split the establishment/RINO money but their vote as well in the primaries. Meanwhile Conservatives get behind one solid Conservative with all of our money and votes and beat them at their own game.
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The WSJ generally prefers the Establishment Elite Class, particularly with the GOP, so this report is a little surprising.
First few paragraphs here and the rest at the link below.
Does Mitt Romney have any compelling reason to mount a third bid for the presidency? Matt Vespa asked that question this morning and came up with few satisfactory answers. He did observe, however, that the early polling suggests that Romney can unite the party and make a good showing in the early states. That pathway to the nomination sounds eerily familiar.
“So, a have so-so showing in the deep red South and tread water until Super Tuesday,†a skeptical Vespa wrote. “Then again, he starts 2016 as he did in 2012: a fragile frontrunner.â€
Both Vespa and Allahpundit have entertained the notion that Romney’s campaign is a feint, and that a theory to which I am also drawn. Compared to Romney’s 2007 and 2011 campaign rollouts, this latest feels haphazard, chaotic, rushed; all qualities one would never ascribe to a Romney venture of any kind.
“This doesn’t look like it was well thought out and organized,†a “highly placed GOP operative†agreed in a quote provided to The Washington Post’s Matea Gold. This operative added that Romney’s behavior is “mystifying†the party donors to whom he is appealing.
But Romney is appealing to donors to hold onto their wallets until he gets into the race. What’s more, the former Massachusetts governor is talking to important political figures like party elder Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and Granite State Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) about a third run at the White House. If it is a feint, it’s a committed one.
It looks like we have to take Romney 2016 at face value, which is exactly what The Wall Street Journal editorial board did. In an editorial published late Tuesday night, the editorial board compared Romney’s new presidential aspirations to “recycled†trash. The editors litigated Romney’s failed 2012 bid, excoriated him for throwing a winnable race as a result of a series of unforced errors, and observed that the only impetus for his campaign remains Romney’s high opinion of himself as opposed to having a compelling (or any) policy vision.
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/14/wsj-compares-new-romney-campaign-to-recycled-trash/?utm_source=hadaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl
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I have held my nose and voted RINO for president in the last two elections.....somebody is going to have to smash my balls to make me do it again.
You certainly have a way with words. :-) (I think I agree)
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Watched Conan's show last night (Only because my wife wanted to see the Patrick Stewart interview), he noted in his monologue that Romney announced he was going to run again. Two people, tops, in the audience reacted with a cheer, everyone else was silently indifferent. The reaction was so apathetic that Conan went off on a tangent about the lack in some follow-up quips.
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I have held my nose and voted RINO for president in the last two elections.....somebody is going to have to smash my balls to make me do it again.
Agreed, though, here in California, voting for anything other than a Democrat is a waste of time and effort. That's why I don't bother voting here in any elections anymore. It's a waste of my time that could be spent more productively on other things.
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Voting is a civic duty.
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Voting is a civic duty.
OK, I'll go vote "present"....hey, it worked for the S.O.B. in the Whitehouse.
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In order to win the Repub. nomination, a candidate must have gobs of money. Mitt can easily get his stash from rich Yankee rhinos (liberals). Jeb Bush can match him. Hate to say it but the rest do not have a chance because they do not have enough funds at the end to compete. Money talks and BS walks.
If I remember correctly, "W" did the same thing Jeb is doing.........get out in front and line up the money. "W" got the momentum so nobody could stop him. That's why I didn't vote for "W" the first time........all the money rendered my vote nil. :mad:
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OK, I'll go vote "present"....hey, it worked for the S.O.B. in the Whitehouse.
Better yet, move. Take your productive habits to a place that isn't run by kleptocrats and keep more of your money.
Unless your job can only be done in CA, in which case, I feel for you. And suggest retraining into a new job.
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Voting is a civic duty.
When they get a viable opposition party here I'll be more than happy to vote. But, since I don't see that happening in my remaining years, I will not be participating in the tilting at windmills that voting for anyone other than Democrats (local, state or federal) has become in this state.
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When they get a viable opposition party here I'll be more than happy to vote. But, since I don't see that happening in my remaining years, I will not be participating in the tilting at windmills that voting for anyone other than Democrats (local, state or federal) has become in this state.
My vote is pretty much wasted here in Illinois. The gop nominee is already decided before the Illinois primary happens.
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Theory time:
Everyone in the GOP knows Romney is a Liberal and garbage. Hell, they had to screw with the Primaries and screw the other candidates to get him nominated. The Establishment knows he cannot win and they're stiff for Bush 3.0. I am starting to think Romney is the spoiler, to distract from the fact Bush is a RINO they want everyone focusing on preventing another Romney loss thus throwing support behind Jebbie. It would certainly make sense, call Jeb the only one that can win blah blah then show concern over Romney beating him to coral the troops.
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Theory time:
Everyone in the GOP knows Romney is a Liberal and garbage. Hell, they had to screw with the Primaries and screw the other candidates to get him nominated. The Establishment knows he cannot win and they're stiff for Bush 3.0. I am starting to think Romney is the spoiler, to distract from the fact Bush is a RINO they want everyone focusing on preventing another Romney loss thus throwing support behind Jebbie. It would certainly make sense, call Jeb the only one that can win blah blah then show concern over Romney beating him to coral the troops.
Is it your theory that Mitt is a liberal ?
Or is it your theory that everyone in the GOP knows Mitt is liberal.
What do you mean by knows ?
Do you mean knows as a lib would use the term, i.e. asserts ?
I am not in the GOP and I don't know that Mitt is a liberal.
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Is it your theory that Mitt is a liberal ?
Or is it your theory that everyone in the GOP knows Mitt is liberal.
What do you mean by knows ?
Do you mean knows as a lib would use the term, i.e. asserts ?
I am not in the GOP and I don't know that Mitt is a liberal.
1: It's not Theory that Mitt is a Liberal, that's been fact for 40 years.
2: Everyone in the GOP knows this. You'd have to have been crogenically frozen the last 40 years not to.
3: I mean knows as in they are all aware Mitt hasn't found one single far left idea he doesn't love.
4: If you check his track record in life and in Politics you will know.
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1: It's not Theory that Mitt is a Liberal, that's been fact for 40 years.
2: Everyone in the GOP knows this. You'd have to have been crogenically frozen the last 40 years not to.
3: I mean knows as in they are all aware Mitt hasn't found one single far left idea he doesn't love.
4: If you check his track record in life and in Politics you will know.
If you mean by record, he has a strong conservative record.
Perhaps you may be referring to his RomneyCare.
He has since admitted that was a mistake.
But that was at a state level, not a federal one.
So states rights arguments aside, you must just be asserting...like liberals do.
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Well, apparently he's not running after all:
After putting considerable thought into making another run for president, I’ve decided it is best to give other leaders in the Party the opportunity to become our next nominee…
I believe that one of our next generation of Republican leaders, one who may not be as well known as I am today, one who has not yet taken their message across the country, one who is just getting started, may well emerge as being better able to defeat the Democrat nominee. In fact, I expect and hope that to be the case.
I feel that it is critical that America elect a conservative leader to become our next president. You know that I have wanted to be that president. But I do not want to make it more difficult for someone else to emerge who may have a better chance of becoming that president. You can’t imagine how hard it is for Ann and me to step aside, especially knowing of your support and the support of so many people across the country. But we believe it is for the best of the Party and the nation.
I’ve been asked, and will certainly be asked again if there are any circumstances whatsoever that might develop that could change my mind. That seems unlikely. Accordingly, I’m not organizing a PAC or taking donations; I’m not hiring a campaign team.
Thank God. Mitt, take your mansions and your pissing contest with Hillary as to who has the bigger dick, and just go do something else. Anything else.
We just don't need another ****ing RINO. We've got enough of them to begin with.
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/30/the-dream-is-over-romney-says-hes-not-running-after-all/
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Well, apparently he's not running after all:
Thank God. Mitt, take your mansions and your pissing contest with Hillary as to who has the bigger dick, and just go do something else. Anything else.
We just don't need another ****ing RINO. We've got enough of them to begin with.
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/30/the-dream-is-over-romney-says-hes-not-running-after-all/
Duh , I was banned from CPF for saying Mitt & Jeb would not be a factor in the GOP POTUS Primaries ...
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Not all of the talking heads are buying that this is for real, as opposed to him just being coy.
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The sooner you guys realize that RINO /middle of the road on Social Issues, open borders GOP candidates will fall to the wayside in this POTUS primary election cycle and a CONSERVATIVE MIDDLE RIGHT Candidate will emerge from a pack of Middle Right to Conservative Right leaning candidates...
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The sooner you guys realize that RINO /middle of the road on Social Issues, open borders GOP candidates will fall to the wayside in this POTUS primary election cycle and a CONSERVATIVE MIDDLE RIGHT Candidate will emerge from a pack of Middle Right to Conservative Right leaning candidates...
I have been waiting for a conservative to win the nomination for many years. The only way that a real conservative has a chance of beating a liberal like thunder thighs is for him or her to either avoid or lie about social issues mimicking a RINO.
With Mitt out, it looks like Jeb has a better shot than the rest of them. Not good...would much rather have Scott Walker.
Got new for you.....the liberal press will show favoritism in the selection process because of their desire for the Democratic candidate to win at all costs.
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Got new for you.....the liberal press will show favoritism in the selection process because of their desire for the Democratic candidate to win at all costs.
It's already happening. We'll get Jeb Bush, but Christie will be in the running. None of the conservatives will make it past the 3rd or 4th primary.
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I have held my nose and voted RINO for president in the last two elections.....somebody is going to have to smash my balls to make me do it again.
Lucky for the rest of us Hillary has a reputation as a ball-smasher.
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It's already happening. We'll get Jeb Bush, but Christie will be in the running. None of the conservatives will make it past the 3rd or 4th primary.
Got to have plenty of cash at the end of the campaign. Newt ran out of money in Florida and Mitt steamrolled him with his huge bankroll. History will repeat itself again, and we will wind up with another mushy RINO.
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Got to have plenty of cash at the end of the campaign. Newt ran out of money in Florida and Mitt steamrolled him with his huge bankroll. History will repeat itself again, and we will wind up with another mushy RINO.
Then donate to the guy you want. I agree that Walker would be a great candidate and would make a great President. Good thing is Florida is fairly early in the process. If Jeb gets crushed there, I think his campaign is all but done. You can't effectively run for POTUS as the former governor of a state and have that state reject you.
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Got to have plenty of cash at the end of the campaign. Newt ran out of money in Florida and Mitt steamrolled him with his huge bankroll. History will repeat itself again, and we will wind up with another mushy RINO.
a real CONSERVATIVE MESSAGE from our own Teh Messiah popping up & grabbing the base could leave Jeb or Krispy or what ever other "anointed ESTABLISHMENT MODERATE RINO you guys are espousing here on the wayside like Hillery was in 08.
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The sooner you guys realize that RINO /middle of the road on Social Issues, open borders GOP candidates will fall to the wayside in this POTUS primary election cycle and a CONSERVATIVE MIDDLE RIGHT Candidate will emerge from a pack of Middle Right to Conservative Right leaning candidates...
Other than Cruz, who has not come out in support of amnesty "immigration reform?" I have given up on it as an issue I can hope to find a viable Republican candidate to handle properly.
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a real CONSERVATIVE MESSAGE from our own Teh Messiah popping up & grabbing the base could leave Jeb or Krispy or what ever other "anointed ESTABLISHMENT MODERATE RINO you guys are espousing here on the wayside like Hillery was in 08.
Democrats and the liberal media have a hatred for conservatives. Plus, Rockefeller Repubs do not like them either. Sarah P., Dan Q. and Dick C. are three good examples. The Democrats are united, however the Repubs are not. This division will work to their disadvantage.