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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on January 13, 2015, 09:21:02 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026079122
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 06:15 AM
xchrom (108,273 posts)
Is the U.S. Crazy?
http://www.alternet.org/world/us-crazy
Americans who live abroad -- more than six million of us worldwide (not counting those who work for the U.S. government) -- often face hard questions about our country from people we live among. Europeans, Asians, and Africans ask us to explain everything that baffles them about the increasingly odd and troubling conduct of the United States. Polite people, normally reluctant to risk offending a guest, complain that America’s trigger-happiness, cutthroat free-marketeering, and “exceptionality†have gone on for too long to be considered just an adolescent phase. Which means that we Americans abroad are regularly asked to account for the behavior of our rebranded “homeland,†now conspicuously in decline and increasingly out of step with the rest of the world.
In my long nomadic life, I’ve had the good fortune to live, work, or travel in all but a handful of countries on this planet. I’ve been to both poles and a great many places in between, and nosy as I am, I’ve talked with people all along the way. I still remember a time when to be an American was to be envied. The country where I grew up after World War II seemed to be respected and admired around the world for way too many reasons to go into here.
That’s changed, of course. Even after the invasion of Iraq in 2003, I still met people -- in the Middle East, no less -- willing to withhold judgment on the U.S. Many thought that the Supreme Court’s installation of George W. Bush as president was a blunder American voters would correct in the election of 2004. His return to office truly spelled the end of America as the world had known it. Bush had started a war, opposed by the entire world, because he wanted to and he could. A majority of Americans supported him. And that was when all the uncomfortable questions really began.
In the early fall of 2014, I traveled from my home in Oslo, Norway, through much of Eastern and Central Europe. Everywhere I went in those two months, moments after locals realized I was an American the questions started and, polite as they usually were, most of them had a single underlying theme: Have Americans gone over the edge? Are you crazy? Please explain.
Two words for Eurosocialist twits that want are money while hating us.
**** You.
Of course the DUmp feels the same.
Response to xchrom (Original post)
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 06:28 AM
Star Member hobbit709 (33,437 posts)
1. I wouldn't bet against it.
Or at least not until the next welfare check comes.
Response to xchrom (Original post)
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 06:42 AM
newfie11 (6,394 posts)
2. I've been saying that for some time
And I think the insanity is getting worse
At the DUmp it is.
Response to xchrom (Original post)
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 07:01 AM
JonLP24 (16,168 posts)
3. I have spoken to people from countries in Africa, India, Nepal
who have never been to America (TCNs employed through a subcontractor of a subcontractor of Halliburton -- if they only knew) have a view of a America that is much, much brighter than reality. They want to come here, they ask me what it is like -- they view it as this wonderful place and where they're coming from it is but it really is but they view America through rose colored glasses. That probably isn't the view everyone has like any generalization, just sharing my experience and there were more of them than US troops at military bases and convoys.
Response to xchrom (Original post)
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 07:10 AM
Star Member barbtries (16,085 posts)
4. i believe we are a sick nation.
and i blame it on republicans and the kochs the NRA etc. the gw administration and endless war. greed.
Most of our problems stem from leftist idiots that can`t punctuate or capitalize.
Response to xchrom (Original post)
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 07:23 AM
Vattel (5,378 posts)
5. Our militarism is part of our national culture. We are wedded to it.
It is sick. Most Americans still celebrate the population bombing the USA did during WWII. Yes killing babies is very popular among even Democrats. Most Europeans recognize that the fire bombing and nuclear bombing we did in Japan was a moral obscenity. Not Americans. We still trot out the stupid argument that but for all that murder, we would have had to kill even more people by invading the Japanese main islands. If it is that easy to convince an American to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians in war, then, yes, we are crazy.
Good thing the Germans were so kindly.
Response to xchrom (Original post)
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 07:33 AM
Blue_Adept (946 posts)
9. Crazy. And sick.
And it's just getting worse. I can feel myself retreating from a lot of it as a self preservation aspect.
Response to xchrom (Original post)
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 07:50 AM
Star Member RoccoR5955 (7,752 posts)
13. When I was in Europe this past fall
I simply told them that they were correct. Most Americans are crazy. I am not one of them. I am also looking to leave the US to a place where Socialism is not a dirty word, it is okay to be an atheist, and they don't spend most of their budget on military.
I can retire in a couple of years, and hope to hell that I can do this, because if I cannot, I shall remain a stranger in a strange land. This is not the US that I was brought up in.
Leave behind the money you earned here then asshole.
Response to xchrom (Original post)
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 08:00 AM
Sen. Walter Sobchak (6,431 posts)
15. "Don't ask me, I'm from California" shuts down these discussions pretty quickly
I just say North America is an accident of history that created three large, dysfunctional and generally ungovernable countries where backwards regional minorities run roughshod over more populous and urbane regions
Damn those redneck hicks stopping us all from becoming the utopias of Detroit,south St Louis,Chicago etc.
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America: That evil, imperialist, racist land that is to be blamed for all misfortune anywhere in the world at any time, even before its founding
Now back to demanding amnesty for 20 million illegal because America is their only hope.
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DUmmie says.... Most Europeans recognize that the fire bombing and nuclear bombing we did in Japan was a moral obscenity. Not Americans. We still trot out the stupid argument that but for all that murder, we would have had to kill even more people by invading the Japanese main islands.
Yeah, we could threw the babies up in the air and caught them on our bayonets....would have been much cheaper and saved the money for more dUmmie freebies. DAMN THEY'RE STUPID.
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Bush had started a war, opposed by the entire world
DUmmie reality is once again proved wrong.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030327-10.html
Coalition Members
Who are the current coalition members?
President Bush is assembling a Coalition that has already begun military operations to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction, and enforce 17 UNSC resolutions.
The Coalition will also liberate the Iraqi people from one of the worst tyrants and most brutal regimes on earth.
Contributions from Coalition member nations range from: direct military participation, logistical and intelligence support, specialized chemical/biological response teams, over-flight rights, humanitarian and reconstruction aid, to political support.
Forty-nine countries are publicly committed to the Coalition, including:
Afghanistan
Albania
Angola
Australia
Azerbaijan
Bulgaria
Colombia
Costa Rica
Czech Republic
Denmark
Dominican Republic
El Salvador
Eritrea
Estonia
Ethiopia
Georgia
Honduras
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Japan
Kuwait
Latvia
Lithuania
Macedonia
Marshall Islands
Micronesia
Mongolia
Netherlands
Nicaragua
Palau
Panama
Philippines
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Rwanda
Singapore
Slovakia
Solomon Islands
South Korea
Spain
Tonga
Turkey
Uganda
Ukraine
United Kingdom
United States
Uzbekistan
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Response to xchrom (Original post)
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 07:01 AM
JonLP24 (16,168 posts)
3. I have spoken to people from countries in Africa, India, Nepal
who have never been to America (TCNs employed through a subcontractor of a subcontractor of Halliburton -- if they only knew) have a view of a America that is much, much brighter than reality. They want to come here, they ask me what it is like -- they view it as this wonderful place and where they're coming from it is but it really is but they view America through rose colored glasses. That probably isn't the view everyone has like any generalization, just sharing my experience and there were more of them than US troops at military bases and convoys.
They don't view America through "rose colored glasses" moron...they just don't view this country as the root of everything bad in the world liek you do. They have more love for America than an ungrateful selfish prig like you who was born in the U.S.
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Tue Jan 13, 2015, 06:15 AM
xchrom (108,273 posts)
Is the U.S. Crazy?
You're crazy. The rest of us are fine.
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We still trot out the stupid argument that but for all that murder, we would have had to kill even more people by invading the Japanese main islands.
It's not stupid. You're the stupid one stupid.
During World War II, nearly 500,000 Purple Heart medals were manufactured in anticipation of the estimated casualties resulting from the planned Allied invasion of Japan. To the present date, total combined American military casualties of the sixty-five years following the end of World War II—including the Korean and Vietnam Wars—have not exceeded that number. In 2003, there remained 120,000 Purple Heart medals in stock. The existing surplus allowed combat units in Iraq and Afghanistan to keep Purple Hearts on-hand for immediate award to soldiers wounded in the field.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruple_heart
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I personally think the OP is making that whole story up.
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The Great Satan & the Little One (America & Israel) :popcorn:
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Uh.....
In the early fall of 2014, I traveled from my home in Oslo, Norway, through much of Eastern and Central Europe. Everywhere I went in those two months, moments after locals realized I was an American the questions started and, polite as they usually were, most of them had a single underlying theme: Have Americans gone over the edge? Are you crazy? Please explain.
This was 2014; who's been running the country since January 20, 2009?
George Bush hasn't been president for a long time now, and so who's responsible for this image?
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I personally think the OP is making that whole story up.
This Dummy was upset that the world was criticizing Obama for skipping the Paris rally, so he created a bouncy to blame Bush.
A couple of problems. Bush is pretty popular in Africa because of his AIDS initiative. Secondly, Eastern Europeans love free market principles and hate everything the Dummies support. Third, Central Americans do everything in power to immigrate here.
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More proof that libs don't just need to be persuaded, they need to be roundly defeated.
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Tue Jan 13, 2015, 06:15 AM
xchrom (108,273 posts)
Is the U.S. Crazy?
http://www.alternet.org/world/us-crazy
Dead giveaway to ridiculous nonsense.
Americans who live abroad -- more than six million of us worldwide (not counting those who work for the U.S. government) -- often face hard questions about our country from people we live among. Europeans, Asians, and Africans ask us to explain everything that baffles them about the increasingly odd and troubling conduct of the United States. Polite people, normally reluctant to risk offending a guest, complain that America’s trigger-happiness, cutthroat free-marketeering, and “exceptionality†have gone on for too long to be considered just an adolescent phase. Which means that we Americans abroad are regularly asked to account for the behavior of our rebranded “homeland,†now conspicuously in decline and increasingly out of step with the rest of the world.
In my long nomadic life, I’ve had the good fortune to live, work, or travel in all but a handful of countries on this planet. I’ve been to both poles and a great many places in between, and nosy as I am, I’ve talked with people all along the way. I still remember a time when to be an American was to be envied. The country where I grew up after World War II seemed to be respected and admired around the world for way too many reasons to go into here.
That’s changed, of course. Even after the invasion of Iraq in 2003, I still met people -- in the Middle East, no less -- willing to withhold judgment on the U.S. Many thought that the Supreme Court’s installation of George W. Bush as president was a blunder American voters would correct in the election of 2004. His return to office truly spelled the end of America as the world had known it. Bush had started a war, opposed by the entire world, because he wanted to and he could. A majority of Americans supported him. And that was when all the uncomfortable questions really began.
In the early fall of 2014, I traveled from my home in Oslo, Norway, through much of Eastern and Central Europe. Everywhere I went in those two months, moments after locals realized I was an American the questions started and, polite as they usually were, most of them had a single underlying theme: Have Americans gone over the edge? Are you crazy? Please explain.
Who's been HMFIC for the last six plus years, dickhead?
What a load of shit. :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:
I personally think the OP is making that whole story up.
Shoud have read that first! :hi5: Totally agree.
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Maybe we should have been more like Rome, Britain, Germany, etc. When we conquer a place, keep it, subjugate it, tax it. At least then the DUmmies wouldn't be lying through their teeth. :mental:
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Maybe a chorus of Bishops will bring the libs around...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2015/01/13/press-ignores-venezuelan-bishops-strong-denunciation-marxist-socialism (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2015/01/13/press-ignores-venezuelan-bishops-strong-denunciation-marxist-socialism)
It fails, and fails miserably every time it's tried.
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"3. I have spoken to people from countries in Africa, India, Nepal
"have a view of a America that is much, much brighter than reality. They want to come here, they ask me what it is like -- they view it as this wonderful place and where they're coming from it is but it really is but they view America through rose colored glasses"
India:
(http://thealternative.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Slum_nofacilities_MeenaKadri.jpg)
Nepal:
(http://ak4.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5340833/preview/stock-footage-kathmandu-nepal-dec-unidentified-poor-people-near-their-houses-at-slums-in-tripureshwor.jpg)
Africa:
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/08/23/world/africa/23cholera2/23cholera2-articleLarge.jpg)
You first, asshole.
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India:
(http://thealternative.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Slum_nofacilities_MeenaKadri.jpg)
Nepal:
(http://ak4.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5340833/preview/stock-footage-kathmandu-nepal-dec-unidentified-poor-people-near-their-houses-at-slums-in-tripureshwor.jpg)
Africa:
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/08/23/world/africa/23cholera2/23cholera2-articleLarge.jpg)
You first, asshole.
Of course the DUmmies never see that part of those countries. All they ever visit are the modern cities with infrastructure that was built and designed by the evil western white devils when they made colonies of those shitholes.
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I don't know anyone that hasn't traveled to India without getting food poisoning.
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In India, it seems like nothing decent has been built, or painted, or even cleaned since the British left.
The overwhelming impressions that stay with you are trash, filth, noise, and foul odors. Otherwise it's nice.
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In India, it seems like nothing decent has been built, or painted, or even cleaned since the British left.
The overwhelming impressions that stay with you are trash, filth, noise, and foul odors. Otherwise it's nice.
With those qualifications, an old time pig pen would be quite nice.
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Hey DUmmies! If you hate America so much, than leave.
PSA Time:
You can learn a lot from a DUmmie.
Don't be a DUmmie.