Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:17 PM
Star Member MrScorpio (61,917 posts)
Terrorist shooting in France vs NAACP Bombing in Colorado: Which is more relevant to the USA?
Some twitter junk and then a poll.
53 votes, 7 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Terrorist Shooting In France
12 (23%)
Terrorist Bombing In Colorado Of NAACP Office
41 (77%)
7 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
Response to MrScorpio (Original post)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:20 PM
2naSalit (5,918 posts)
1. But, but, but...
White people aren't terissts..
Response to MrScorpio (Original post)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:43 PM
Hutzpa (11,149 posts)
12. Home grown terrorist should have made the news today
but the media is ignoring it which imo is a deliberate ploy to cover up the actions of those responsible.
Response to MrScorpio (Original post)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:58 PM
Star Member sarisataka (4,532 posts)
20. The NAACP bombing is clearly
more relevant.
Which in no way reduces the importance or horror of the Paris shooting
Response to sarisataka (Reply #20)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 03:02 PM
Star Member MrScorpio (61,917 posts)
22. Of course, that wasn't the point of my OP at all...
As I'm sure you know. Of course, the attack in France is newsworthy.
However, in comparison, it's amazing that a recent terrorist attack ON US SOIL seems to be so IRRELEVANT to the US media
Response to MrScorpio (Original post)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 03:12 PM
Lurks Often (3,458 posts)
27. Colorado was likely a single whack job, Paris was done by trained, organized people
The whack job in Colorado was unsuccessful in his attack, whether it was the barber shop or the NAACP office, will likely be caught in the next several days, was likely an amateur and likely acted alone.
The two in Paris were well trained, the attack plan and escape plan were well thought out and done, may not even be in France anymore, they likely have additional adherents, financial support and other support from people both in France and other countries. These are people capable of, in theory, of committing similar attacks across the U.S. on a frequent basis until caught.
Response to MrScorpio (Original post)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 03:26 PM
Star Member NYC_SKP (64,126 posts)
30. The France bombing was infinitely more preventable, for one thing.
When what looks at the root causes of what happened, one has to conclude that the NAACP bombing was more insidious and representative of hatred against a race, a group, and unprovoked.
The publishers of those offensive cartoons knew what they were doing and deliberately created offensive cartoons, knowing full well that violence might result.
They should really be ashamed, IMO.
I'm all for free speech, but I'm very much opposed to self-serving arrogance that puts others at risk.
It makes me sick that we even have to have a poll.
Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #30)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 03:47 PM
Star Member JustAnotherGen (14,283 posts)
36. The French are French and have a French Sense of humor
And that publication is known for being obnoxious.
They were NOT engaging in acts of racism in that magazine.
And I hate to say it - but there is indeed an angry, young, Muslim immigrant/1st generation problem in France. There is. Doesn't make me a racist or closed off or anti Islam.
This shit has been boiling up for a long time - and the men who did that?
They are going to make things much much worse on the VAST majority of Muslims/French of North African Descent that are French first, Muslim second, and just want to live their lives.
Marine is no better than her father - she's worse because she delivers it with a pretty little smile. That woman just might win because of this . . .
NYC_SKP This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to MrScorpio (Original post)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 04:08 PM
1StrongBlackMan (16,309 posts)
38. Wow! Perhaps I misread the question; but ...
I could have sworn the question posed was:
Terrorist shooting in France vs NAACP Bombing in Colorado: Which is more relevant to the USA?
Not, which attack was more fatal, or even more shocking or tragic, or whatever descriptor one wishes to apply.
So from the above comments/poll, a full 1/3 of Duers consider an attack, targeting, at the minimum, a establishment patronized primarily by African-Americans, and at worse, targeting a symbol of African-America, committed by (presumably) a white American (based on the "person of interest" description), in the present climate, is less relevant to the USA, than an attack (albeit, a fatal attack) on foreign soil, on non-Americans, by (presumably) non-Americans?
DU, today, has made me feel less fully accepted as an American.
NYC_SKP (64,126 posts) Wed Jan 7, 2015, 03:26 PM
The publishers of those offensive cartoons knew what they were doing and deliberately created offensive cartoons, knowing full well that violence might result.
They should really be ashamed, IMO.
I'm all for free speech, but I'm very much opposed to self-serving arrogance that puts others at risk.
Charlie Hebdo (Charlie Weekly) is a French satirical weekly newspaper, featuring cartoons, reports, polemics, and jokes. Irreverent and stridently non-conformist in tone, the publication is strongly antireligious and left-wing, publishing articles on the extreme right, Catholicism, Islam, Judaism, politics, culture, etc. According to its former editor, Charb (Stéphane Charbonnier), the magazine's editorial viewpoint reflects "all components of left wing pluralism, and even abstainers".WikiPedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo)
Response to sarisataka (Reply #20)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 03:02 PM
Star Member MrScorpio (61,917 posts)
22. Of course, that wasn't the point of my OP at all...
As I'm sure you know. Of course, the attack in France is newsworthy.
However, in comparison, it's amazing that a recent terrorist attack ON US SOIL seems to be so IRRELEVANT to the US media
Response to MrScorpio (Original post)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 04:08 PM
1StrongBlackMan (16,309 posts)
38. Wow! Perhaps I misread the question; but ...
I could have sworn the question posed was:
Terrorist shooting in France vs NAACP Bombing in Colorado: Which is more relevant to the USA?
Not, which attack was more fatal, or even more shocking or tragic, or whatever descriptor one wishes to apply.
So from the above comments/poll, a full 1/3 of Duers consider an attack, targeting, at the minimum, a establishment patronized primarily by African-Americans, and at worse, targeting a symbol of African-America, committed by (presumably) a white American (based on the "person of interest" description), in the present climate, is less relevant to the USA, than an attack (albeit, a fatal attack) on foreign soil, on non-Americans, by (presumably) non-Americans?
DU, today, has made me feel less fully accepted as an American.
Response to MrScorpio (Original post)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 03:26 PM
Star Member NYC_SKP (64,126 posts)
30. The France bombing was infinitely more preventable, for one thing.
When what looks at the root causes of what happened, one has to conclude that the NAACP bombing was more insidious and representative of hatred against a race, a group, and unprovoked.
The publishers of those offensive cartoons knew what they were doing and deliberately created offensive cartoons, knowing full well that violence might result.
They should really be ashamed, IMO.
I'm all for free speech, but I'm very much opposed to self-serving arrogance that puts others at risk.
It makes me sick that we even have to have a poll.
Response to MrScorpio (Original post)
NYC_SKP This message was self-deleted by its author.
Hmmm. The bomb outside the NAACP was easily found and detonated. No one was hurt and there are no suspects.
Why is my first instinct to think that members of the NAACP might have put it there themselves.
Am I wrong to think that? or Have there been many other examples of fake racist threats?
Quote from: Mr Mannn on January 07, 2015, 08:31:55 PM
Why is my first instinct to think that members of the NAACP might have put it there themselves.
Am I wrong to think that? No. or Have there been many other examples of fake racist threats? Yes.
I don't think you are.
Response to MrScorpio (Original post)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 03:26 PM
Star Member NYC_SKP (64,126 posts)
30. The France bombing was infinitely more preventable, for one thing.
When what looks at the root causes of what happened, one has to conclude that the NAACP bombing was more insidious and representative of hatred against a race, a group, and unprovoked.
The publishers of those offensive cartoons knew what they were doing and deliberately created offensive cartoons, knowing full well that violence might result.
They should really be ashamed, IMO.
I'm all for free speech, but I'm very much opposed to self-serving arrogance that puts others at risk.
It makes me sick that we even have to have a poll.
The chapter’s offices, as well as Mr. G’s Hair Design Studios barber shop located inside the building, sustained minor damage from the explosion. No deaths or injuries have been reported.How do we know they targeted the NAACP? Maybe someone just was not happy with their haircut.
The publishers of those offensive cartoons knew what they were doing and deliberately created offensive cartoons, knowing full well that violence might result.
They should really be ashamed, IMO.
The publishers of those offensive cartoons knew what they were doing and deliberately created offensive cartoons, knowing full well that violence might result.
The analogies aren't comparable enough.
How about this instead: suppose one of those once-every-30-years events happened, and an abortion clinic got fire-bombed?
Using Skippy's logic, the abortion profiteers knew what they were doing and deliberately kept on doing it, knowing fully well that violence might result.
But for some reason, I don't think Skippy gets it.
I don`t pretend that CC is even a blip on the radar screen as far as importance or Internet traffic but it serves a purpose in providing Google cache a history of how revolting and evil these mutants are.
Hmmm. The bomb outside the NAACP was easily found and detonated. No one was hurt and there are no suspects.
Why is my first instinct to think that members of the NAACP might have put it there themselves.
Am I wrong to think that? or Have there been many other examples of fake racist threats?
Star Member NYC_SKP (64,126 posts)
I'm all for free speech, but I'm very much opposed to self-serving arrogance that puts others at risk.
Your second sentence belies your first sentence. You are a coward who does NOT believe in free speech. You believe in guarded speech that is censored through libratd filters.Even If you just read their holy books and the life of Mohammed, they get all bent out of shape hearing it repeated.
skip, you are a coward and a liar. In a just world, you would be killed by angry French for your post.