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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on January 01, 2015, 07:18:12 AM
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Wait a tick... Big Gay Randy isn't black!
randys1 (4,591 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/118711303
Here is what is wrong with DU...this is an AA forum topic only
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026003869#post225
This thread was started by someone who wanted to make sure EVERYBODY knew the Black person in this shooting was absolutely guilty, you can see them RACING to their laptop to make sure this thread got going, you can see many who agree with him RACING to the thread to say "Yep, Black guy guilty this time"
Now, besides the fact that the facts are NOT in on this case, what bothers me is you wont see many of the supporters in that thread posting in other threads about race, and I know why.
But you can be god damn sure that if they get a chance to hide a post by someone like myself or many of the AA posters here, they will be johnny on the spot.
This is making me mad, I want these people to be out in the open more, but I dont know how to make that happen.
If this thread is bad, wrong, against the rules, then delete it and I will understand, thanks.
freshwest (48,086 posts)
6. I read that thread... The gif proves nothing. As you said, posted to show guilt. IDK exactly what happened by anything. The dead tell no tales. I'm getting more and more uncomfortable with this place...
It's more like DI with posts being allowed to stay, I never thought would be permitted. The arguments used are the same, almost word for word.
As far as posting in AA to talk, I think DU is going through a transformation, like much of the rest of the country. The BlackLives Matter movement must be changing people in online communities just as they in the real world.
An awful lot is being exposed, that has long needed to be. I'd just advise to keep out trolls here a disclaimer as we put in the BOG. DI really hates BOG and HOF with a passion and it looks like AA is on their list now too.
Keep on keeping on, I think this is going to work out in the end. Say whatever the heck you want to say in this group, it's a safe haven, but there must be gatekeepers, unfortunately.
Too many posting at DU are openly hostile to Democrats, black leaders in general, PBO, women and all minorities, and are really showing themselves to be rebelling against the success of all those groups. I may be too optimistic, but I see it as a good sign.
I am seeing some doing the right thing now. Hope this post helps, but I often don't post as I'm not black and have no intention of diminishing this movement by making it anything other than what it is.
It is time for black people to tell the rest of America what it is to live with this and to not stop. Because some will listen; but even if they don't, it helps to define solutions to work around those who are making trouble for AA's.
Just hold on there, mister! You aren't black either?!?!
But, what are they bitching at? this post:
Blue_ (106 posts)
All I need to see (St. Louis Shooting)
[gif of suspect pulling gun and aiming at police]
Martin clearly draws an object from his waistband and points it at the officer in the same stance one would use if pointing a gun. A gun was recovered from the scene. The officer said Martin was pointing a gun. Martin has a history of armed robbery and armed criminal action.
Even if it wasn't a gun, which it was, the shooting would still have been justified. The courts have ruled again and again that when someone displays an object in a manner which would indicate to a reasonable person that said object was a gun, deadly force is authorized.
Just because men like Oscar Grant and Eric Garner were brutalized doesn't magically mean every officer involved shooting is criminal. There are still plenty of violent, brutal criminals on our streets. We do a disservice to victims of police brutality by blending their victimization with lawful, legal and necessary use of deadly force. It discredits the protests and protestors. It gives the police unions ammunition to paint us all with the same brush.
Support the police when they're right. Hold their feet to the fire when they're wrong. Leave the conspiracy theories to the right wing nuts.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Yeah.... just keeping the black man down...
951-Riverside (6,042 posts)
10. Show me the unedited/uncropped video then we can talk "Blue" n/t
Our gangbanger wanna be is back in this thread...
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
19. Bullshit, that grainy ass picture shows nothing of the sort...
& I have experience with both firearms & being shot at both with pitsols & ****in rifles. That isn't even a firing stance unless you want to fall on your ass afterwards, not to mention generally when someone plans on shooting at another armed person they plan on that person also firing back so they pull a gun while trying to run to take cover at the same time.
You & your 21 posts with your only 2 reccs for OPs that are both for articles involving the death of another young black male, not to mention this bullshit OP looks more like an agenda than anything else.
Nadin's sockpuppet?
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
99. He had a grocery bag still in his right hand, he brought
his left leg up to his right, right before he lifted his arm. If that was a gun (which I still don't believe) it would have knocked him off of balance. For ppl under 40 on his ass is just jargon, I really don't give a shit how you take it. I'm not going to argue silly ass semantics with you.
:rotf:
GGJohn (1,933 posts)
106. A ****ing 9mm won't knock a guy that size off balance, you don't know what the **** you're talking about.
Now I really know you are clueless about firearms and stances.
:fuelfire:
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
110. You have no idea how big that guy is...& your opinion doesn't mean jack to me.
:stoner:
GGJohn (1,933 posts)
117. You can tell by the video he's an average sized man, and no 9mm is going to rock someone his size, in that stance, off balance, you don't know what you're talking about.
I carried and qualified a full sized Barretta 9mm for years in the US Army and it has a minimal recoil compared to the .45 I carried when I first entered the service.
Yeah, you don't care about my opinion because you know you've been shown to know jack shit about firearms and stances.
she's not gonna let it go, dawg...
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
121. Ha ha ha, funny you were a ****in officer weren't u? Well that explains plenty. US Army here as well over 10 yrs but enlisted. ****in figures. Did you just carry it around & take it out to qualify because that doesn't really count as using it.
:o I am betting you were an Admin clerk...
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
55. No, your post count & reccs are directly related to the deaths of young black males.
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
66. So now I'm a fool for pointing out the obvious?? His/her posts & reccs clearly prove my point. They are desperate to spin this pro cop with no substantial evidence & well as far as you go, that's always your narrative.
Negro, please...
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
27. and that's not at all how he was standing...That's a proper firing stance. Thanks for proving my point.
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
33. Well it's a good thing I don't have shit to prove to you then huh big guy?
keep digging..
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
40. A shooting stance huh? Not only does he square his chest but his feet as well. You can see him bring his back foot in and together with the other foot, not a shooting stance. EVER. Not even for an inexperienced shooter. You can argue the shit all you want to try and make it fit your narrative but it's not there & taking pot shots about what you think my experience is to try & degenerate my argument is just pathetic.
I seriously doubt ol' home boy ever took shooting lessons other than playing Grand Theft Auto on xbox...
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
93. Oh yeah? ****in 18 with soooooo many crimes but yet still not in jail doesn't that seem a little ****in odd. I am so happy I got all the gun humping, "thug" bashers on one sub thread. ******* right they threw rocks & bricks at the ****in cops. You would to if every time a ****in cop rolled up into your neighborhood someone got shot. The ****in cop had a dashcam & bodycam in his car but somehow managed to have both off. Yet no one seems to thinks that's a ****in issue.
All the self righteous cop worshipping is tired, especially from the white folks that don't know shit, from shit.
::)
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
107. Not supposedly Armed Robbery as they claim the victim committed as well as other violent crimes....Those generally aren't get out of jail free offenses, especially for a black male in MO. It kind of throws that bullshit argument out the window. But of course we must push the narrative that he was violent...without any proof yet again.
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
235. You're making assumptions based on something you do not know. He was previously accused of armed robbery, being accused of a crime doesn't mean shit. Especially when you're a young black male & I've already made myself perfectly clear about what I think about this bullshit ass gif that some want to swear proves this guy had a gun.
You can say please, please, please, all damn day it still doesn't make it true.
This is why you can never win an arguement with a leftist. They won't listen to facts. They won't accept the truth when it is shown to them. They would rather lie and keep shouting out the same talking points than admit they were wrong.
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
239. No, once again it turns out the cops are claiming...they have witnesses.... Sounds familiar doesn't it?? When a witness comes out on their own (that isn't a witness #40) I'll believe. Until then **** anything a cop that has another to protect has to say. Especially in Klan land.
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
202. It wasn't hate speech nor was it ever intended to be...
The problem is white people do not understand what it is like to be a dark skinned minority in this country & the shit we deal with on the daily with the cops. If they aren't shooting us, they are physically or verbally harassing us, or slamming us against cars or buildings, or just straight up treating us like shit for no ******* reason.
That's where my comments came from.
its not racists when we do it...
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I had forgot who giftedgirl77 was...
Her name is Jessica. She did about six years as a signal soldier. I remember looking for her the last time she spouted off about being a veteran.
She's not black either.
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Guess what DUmbasses,there is no transformation going on anywhere.
Normal people understand what criminal thuggery is and want it prevented and stopped,not thanked and offered an award.
The fact that no one ever agrees with you is not because you are profound,enlightened,superior or any other wet dream you have.
It is because you are insane.
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Was it a sandwich? That other guy's family claimed he pulled out a sandwich, not a gun.
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Was it a sandwich? That other guy's family claimed he pulled out a sandwich, not a gun.
Must be an AA thing: To tuck sandwiches in your waistband and offer it to cops trying to arrest you.
:thatsright: <-- my reaction to parents story.
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Must be an AA thing: To tuck sandwiches in your waistband and offer it to cops trying to arrest you.
:thatsright: <-- my reaction to parents story.
My wife isn't AA, but sometimes when she makes a sammich for a midnight snack, she wraps it in paper towels and makes a pouch out of her oversized T-shirt and tucks that into her pajama's waistband. Does that count? :-)
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Must be a gender appropriation thing.
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freshwest (48,086 posts)
6. I read that thread... The gif proves nothing. As you said, posted to show guilt. IDK exactly what happened by anything. The dead tell no tales. I'm getting more and more uncomfortable with this place...
It's more like DI with posts being allowed to stay, I never thought would be permitted. The arguments used are the same, almost word for word.
Sorry, Herr Special Snowflake, a correct argument is going to be repeated to imbeciles that keep repeating specious, fabricated or just plain incorrect, bullshit. No. It's opposing viewpoints, that spank you raw like the little bitch you are, that you can't stand and are .....allowed ..... to stay. :bird:
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Guess what DUmbasses,there is no transformation going on anywhere.
Normal people understand what criminal thuggery is and want it prevented and stopped,not thanked and offered an award.
The fact that no one ever agrees with you is not because you are profound,enlightened,superior or any other wet dream you have.
It is because you are insane.
The old, addled hippies are the worst at this. They were just so damn sure the revolution was happening that, almost ten tears later when Ronaldus Maximus was elected, they went completely stark raving bonkers. This "transformation" bullshit gets overblown coverage and attention by a media that they insist is rEichwInG!!111cOrPoRaTe!!11eLeBiNty!!!! so they assume that, this time, it's happening.
Sorry, hippies..... there is nothing going on now that wasn't going on during your last attempt at collective insanity. All the current players - radical militant blacks, homosexuals, feminazis, clueless college dickhead trustafarians and sexually ambiguous white retards were all there back then.
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:hi5: BTW, Dutch. Good find.
giftedgirl77 (1,913 posts)
202. It wasn't hate speech nor was it ever intended to be...
The problem is white people do not understand what it is like to be a dark skinned minority in this country & the shit we deal with on the daily with the cops. If they aren't shooting us, they are physically or verbally harassing us, or slamming us against cars or buildings, or just straight up treating us like shit for no ******* reason.
That's where my comments came from.
Maybe I just don't hang out in the right revolutionary, crime-riddled circles, but I have yet to ever see that happen in person in my somewhat Southern locale .......
.....just on ..... TV. :whistling:
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The old, addled hippies are the worst at this. They were just so damn sure the revolution was happening that, almost ten tears later when Ronaldus Maximus was elected, they went completely stark raving bonkers. This "transformation" bullshit gets overblown coverage and attention by a media that they insist is rEichwInG!!111cOrPoRaTe!!11eLeBiNty!!!! so they assume that, this time, it's happening.
Sorry, hippies..... there is nothing going on now that wasn't going on during your last attempt at collective insanity. All the current players - radical militant blacks, homosexuals, feminazis, clueless college dickhead trustafarians and sexually ambiguous white retards were all there back then.
H5! :cheersmate: