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I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
« on: December 14, 2019, 08:19:59 AM »
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I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars

A state with 35 million people, a state consistently held hostage by states with a 16th of our population. States that have a negative contribution to the federal government. This country is NOT theirs. It is ours, I am really friggin tired of the lowest common denominator calling the shots that are dismantling democracy and celebrating stupidity. /rant

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9. California is not currently a donor state.
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Edit: CA’s balance of payments is +$12.


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11. Yes it is
https://www.politifact.com/california/article/2017/feb/14/does-california-give-more-it-gets-dc/

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18. Depends on where you get your data.
This says California nearly breaks even.

https://rockinst.org/issue-areas/fiscal-analysis/balance-of-payments-portal/

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24. Nope. My info is from 2019. Yours is from 2017.
We get back a whole $12 more than we pay out. Not much, but not a donor state at this time.

A few years ago we were getting only 74¢ back out of every $1 we paid to the feds. Things have improved a bit.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/donor-states/

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22. Oh my goodness.
I love these posts where people feel so superior to others. You do know there are Dems in every state, right?

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25. Yes I know there are Dems in these states. I guess there were anti-Nazis in Germany as well but I
look back at Nazi Germany with hatred. I’m sure there are Republicans who hate Trump but who cares, I can’t stand Republicans. I can say, I do feel sad for people who live in these ass backwards states who are Dems. I live in NJ a solid Dem State but my district is a solid R district and I hate my ass backward district, but like the Dems in my district. I see nothing inconsistent or wrong with that. I hate West Virginia, Kansas etc. but feel sorry for Des who live there. But we live with our choices. I live in a R district so I live with those consequences. And yes I have zero doubt that I am superior to those traitors who vote republican where ever they live. Some of my family are Republicans and they are ignorant tools and I am superior to them in every way. I can hate a red state but that doesn’t mean I hate Dems who live there. Let’s cut this political correctness shit. Our country is at risk. I am an equal opportunity hater of Republicans, I hate them everywhere and will fight them to my dying breathe.


Far more at the link and it’s good stuff!  LOL

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Re: I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2019, 09:19:35 AM »
Onecaliberal is a textbook example of why the electoral college is necessary.
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Re: I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2019, 09:26:36 AM »
Quote from: DLR Pyro on December 14, 2019, 09:19:35 AM
Onecaliberal is a textbook example of why the electoral college is necessary.


You’ve got that right. Somewhere in the thread they demonstrate their ignorance of civics by proclaiming some states are more equal than others so they should get a third senator.

I also find their hypocrisy of how THEIR taxes should be spent to be hilarious. It’s also fun to see their beliefs of who is a donor state shattered.  :rofl:

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Re: I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2019, 09:41:30 AM »
California has 10% of the population of the entire USA but has 38% of the welfare payments.

You can't tell me that we are a net contributor.
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Re: I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2019, 09:57:15 AM »
Funny how DUpipo do not realize that Federal dollars going into a state don't do the same thing. Some $$ go to welfare programs. Some go into ag subsidies that keep food prices low. Some go to universities for various research projects. Some go into defense installations of various purposes.

Speaking of the latter, consider the effects of Bill Clinton's base closings in California:

* Mather AFB in Sacramento;

* McClellan AFB in Sacramento;

* Alameda NAS in Alameda-Oakland;

* Moffett NAS in Mountain View;

* Mare Island near Vallejo;

* Fort Ord near Monterey;

* MCAS El Toro in Orange County.

Just off the top of my head. But DU-Moron onecaliberal is just virtue-signalling for DUmp Cred. Whether California pays more in taxes than the Federal dollars it receives has absolutely zero effect on his life (unless his community was hurt by one of Clinton's base closings, as Vallejo was by Mare Island being closed).

Then there's tax $$ California supposedly pays. Apple Computer, for example, sell its phone products and computer products all over the world. But because Apple is based in California, the sites DU-Moron onecaliberal uses count the taxes on that worldwide revenue as coming from California. Cisco, Oracle, Amazon, EBay, etc..

Then there's companies like L3 Communications, which is HQed in NY, but has divisions all over the US (L3 basically was created by buying divisions of other companies). Are the revenues of the various divisions counted as taxes from NY or from the various states? Somehow, I suspect that the taxes paid on revenues from L3 divisions in UT and PA are counted by those sites as from NY (which is a supposed "net contributor"). Speaking of companies with divisions in multiple states, Curtis Instruments is based in NY, but has a major division in CA. To which state do these sites attribute taxes paid by Curtis? Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, General Dynamics .....

IOW, the websites DU-Moron onecaliberal obsesses over - by his choice, not because any actual effects in his life - are fodder for political BS, and very possibly designed to be such.
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Re: I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2019, 12:16:10 PM »
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5. I think one could say you reap what you sow. If you are a state such as Alabama and your state

government brainwashed you into voting against your best interest because of freedom and liberty. ect,ect.

Says it all right there.
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Re: I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2019, 01:14:02 PM »

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5. I think one could say you reap what you sow. If you are a state such as Alabama and your state

government brainwashed you into voting against your best interest because of freedom and liberty. ect,ect.
I don't think DUmmies should use Latin abbreviations if they cannot spell them correctly.
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Re: I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2019, 01:39:43 PM »
Quote from: dane on December 14, 2019, 01:14:02 PM
I don't think DUmmies should use Latin abbreviations if they cannot spell them correctly.

Well, consider the DU-member's forum name. :rotf:
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Re: I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2019, 02:18:20 PM »
I am so tired of living in a state that is inundated by all you liberals after you f**ked up your state the :thatsright:n come here and vote for the same shitty left wing politicians to screw it up here.
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Re: I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2019, 04:38:49 PM »
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5. I think one could say you reap what you sow. If you are a state such as Alabama and your state

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Re: I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2019, 05:08:20 PM »
What state would that be DUmmy?

State of irrelevancy.

State of denial.

State of mental delusion.
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Re: I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2019, 06:52:23 PM »
DUmmies are terrified by the EC. 
Here's a little tidbit that I dug up.

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The Founding Fathers went to great lengths to ensure that we were a republic and not a democracy. In fact, the word democracy does not appear in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, or any other of our founding documents.
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Re: I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2019, 06:28:45 PM »
#endrepresentationwithouttaxation
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Re: I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
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I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars

And yet chances are you're one of the population that doesn't contribute but does suck up and take from what the state does get back. You're a mooch.

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Re: I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2019, 09:38:20 PM »
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I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars

A state with 35 million people, a state consistently held hostage by states with a 16th of our population. States that have a negative contribution to the federal government. This country is NOT theirs. It is ours, I am really friggin tired of the lowest common denominator calling the shots that are dismantling democracy and celebrating stupidity. /rant

Poor dummie. Poor, poor dummie.  So unhappy.  It's time to off yourself dummie. It will relieve your pain.

5 cents please.
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