http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8343775proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Sat May-15-10 11:34 PM
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What happens when an undocumented person is picked up?
I have watched many families I know go through this and it is heartbreaking. All the people I know are as determined as they can be to live under the radar because the consequences are so severe if they are apprehended by ICE.
I'm not posting links. I'm just relating the process as I have seen it work first hand. I teach in a school where quite a few of our students have undocumented family members.
If an undocumented person is picked up and deported they are immediately turned over to ICE. This is not an automatic process. Sometimes they are released and other times they aren't. Their outcome is up to the law enforcement agency that encounters them. But if they are deported, they are placed in an ICE detention center. They have 48 hours to post a $3000 bond. If they post the bond, they are released on bail and given anywhere from 10 to 30 days to leave the US at their own expense. Once they leave after posting bond, they are free to re-enter the US legally with a visa or work permit.
If they do not post bond, they are deported, usually within a few days but sometimes it is a few months. They may NEVER return to the US, even legally.
Unlike other persons held by law enforcement, they are not entitled to a phone call or to an attorney. I know several families who have had members disappear and until they are back in their home country and can afford to call their loved ones, no one knows where they are or what happened to them.
All detainees are given a handbook explaining the rules and procedures. All detainees are shown a video during processing that explains, among other things, "Schedule of programs, services and daily activities, including
visitation, telephone usage, mail service, religious programs, count procedures,
access to and use of the law library and the general library; and sick-call procedures;
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Voluntary work program, with specific details including how to volunteer."
10.The facility will maintain accurate records and documentation on all detainees’ admission, orientation, and release.(including fingerprints)
11.Detainees will have access to a telephone during the admission processDetainees in ICE custody
who do not pose a threat to public safety and national security may be eligible to obtain release on bond while they await their removal proceedings.
I also know quite a few undocumented workers who were brought here by US companies and work for very low wages. Many of these companies even provide housing and encourage the workers to bring their families. They are also usually lied to and told they will be legal workers in the US. I know more than a few families who think they are here legally only to find out later they are undocumented. Have you done your DUmmy Duty and reported these companies? No.
It's important to note that most who cross the border illegally are poor and desperate. US trade policies with Mexico and other Central American countries have destroyed the economy in these countries and jobs are nearly impossible to find. For many the best option is to come here illegally because the legal process is not only expensive but not available to Central Americans, due to the US immigration quota system. If you're white and European, come on to America. if you're Hispanic and from Central America, you are not welcome.
Oh, horseshit Wilber.
The 'quota system' is the Diversity Visa. Visas provided are drawn from countries with
low rates of immigration to the U.S. It also requires The law and regulations require that every diversity visa entrant must have at least a high school education or its equivalent or have, within the past five years, two years of work experience in an occupation requiring at least two years' training or experience.
The cost of each immigrant visa application processing fee (per person) is (US) $335.Do a little research, Anne. Do you teach this ignorant crap to your students?
EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Sun May-16-10 12:14 AM
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4. I work in a criminal justice/law enforcement related field and here's what I've observed
We often arrest illegals. Not for being illegal, but for committing a crime. Usually something small like driving without a license, DUI, petit theft, etc. We notify the immigration service on all illegals, and they decide whether they are going to deport the person. Unless the defendant committed a violent crime, or is related to organized crime (usually gangs or drug trafficking), the illegal is allowed to be arraigned and is released. My estimate is that not even 1 out of 100 are actually turned over to ICE, other than the violent offenders, who are prosecuted then turned over to ICE - if they come back in the country and are caught, they have to serve their prison time.
edit: because I hit the wrong button
