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Current Events => Political Ammunition => Nationalized Health Care and Its Potential Horrors => Topic started by: Chris_ on August 03, 2010, 10:23:39 AM

Title: ObamaCare: We've Only Just Begun
Post by: Chris_ on August 03, 2010, 10:23:39 AM
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Bob has been cancer-free now for more than five years.

But, of course, he still needs the checkups and MRI scans.

So a couple weeks ago, he called to make an appointment for a scan. The person he talked to told him that he could schedule the scan, but that he would have to pay for it out of his pocket - it was no longer covered by Medicare.

"They told me that you can only have the scan if you have certain symptoms or a diagnosis and mine didn't qualify," Bob told me. "They said it was part of the new healthcare deal."

Turns out, the new Medicare guidelines regarding Bob's scans are not technically part of ObamaCare.

They're part of the Medicare Modernization Act, which took affect June 1. But the whole reason for the MMA was to curtail services and cut costs to help pay for ObamaCare.

So even though technically it's separate from ObamaCare, it's driven by ObamaCare.

Under the new guidelines, once you've been "signs, symptoms and treatment free" for six months, you can't get the scans paid for under Medicare.

Lots of cancer patients - breast cancer survivors, for example - are beyond six months without symptoms or treatment and still need these scans.

In the meantime, the scans aren't covered.

http://www.timesuniononline.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=225&ArticleID=49163&TM=38204
Title: Re: ObamaCare: We've Only Just Begun
Post by: true_blood on August 07, 2010, 07:50:10 PM
Such a disgrace!! The best health care system in the World and they go and screw it up. What do you expect from liberals and commies though?!?!
Also, that line about if you like your current doctor, you can keep your current doctor, is A LIE!!!! :censored:
Title: Re: ObamaCare: We've Only Just Begun
Post by: debk on August 08, 2010, 12:09:18 AM
A friend that's had a double mastectomy, had to have scans done the first year and a half, every 3 months, then went to every 6 months until she hit the 5 yr mark.

When she retired, she lost her insurance coverage, because of pre-existing conditions, then got breast cancer, and now the Medicare is covering less? Somehow that doesn't seem right for a person that worked her entire adult life.  :(
Title: Re: ObamaCare: We've Only Just Begun
Post by: Beau Geste on August 28, 2010, 11:06:59 PM
A friend that's had a double mastectomy, had to have scans done the first year and a half, every 3 months, then went to every 6 months until she hit the 5 yr mark.

When she retired, she lost her insurance coverage, because of pre-existing conditions, then got breast cancer, and now the Medicare is covering less? Somehow that doesn't seem right for a person that worked her entire adult life.  :(
Sounds about right for this administration... she's no longer a taxpayer so she doesn't deserve care.

in fact, that about sums up the whole of liberal respect for life. The unborn and elderly don't pay taxes, therefore they must not survive.
Title: Re: ObamaCare: We've Only Just Begun
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 28, 2010, 06:36:41 AM
Sounds about right for this administration... she's no longer a taxpayer so she doesn't deserve care.

in fact, that about sums up the whole of liberal respect for life. The unborn and elderly don't pay taxes, therefore they must not survive.

Young and fit for work....go this way.

Old, sick or to young for work.....go this way.

Sounds a little (lot) like the Nazi death camp selections don't it.
Title: Re: ObamaCare: We've Only Just Begun
Post by: true_blood on December 28, 2010, 01:01:43 PM
Young and fit for work....go this way.
Old, sick or to young for work.....go this way.
Sounds a little (lot) like the Nazi death camp selections don't it.
The same fate that the liberals' ancestors ran from is the same that they are embracing. STUPID IS STUPID. :mental:
Title: Re: ObamaCare: We've Only Just Begun
Post by: Sniper on March 05, 2012, 08:27:20 AM
I'm afraid that the nazi death camps are going to happen again on american soil either through the liberal-communist, or muslims. Either way it could get bad soon.
Title: Re: ObamaCare: We've Only Just Begun
Post by: Belle on May 30, 2015, 12:53:53 AM
Sarah Palin warned about the death panels; looks like they may be on an accelerated track; the U.N. is taking the reign on this & proposing "Sustainable Development Goals"...here's the important part "UN member states will be given targets to cut the number of deaths from diseases like cancer, stroke, diabetes & dementia by one third by 2030." 

"However because many are age-related illnesses people who succumb to those diseases from the age of 70 are not deemed to have died prematurely and so are not included in the target."

"...The new guideline sends out the message that health provision for younger groups must be prioritised at the expense of older people."

Prof Lloyd-Sherlock:  "This premature mortality target is highly unethical, since it unjustifiable discriminates against older people."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/elder/11637179/Elderly-face-NHS-discrimination-under-new-UN-death-targets.html
Title: Re: ObamaCare: We've Only Just Begun
Post by: obumazombie on May 30, 2015, 01:36:57 AM
Young and fit for work....go this way.

Old, sick or to young for work.....go this way.

Sounds a little (lot) like the Nazi death camp selections don't it.

So it turns out our friend Jonathan Gruber, who told us there were no death panels, amongst so many other claims that turned out to be not true...lied about death panels too.
Rats!!! foiled and Grubered again.

Buzzy, are you one here now ?
How do you like your anointed messiah now ?
Title: Re: ObamaCare: We've Only Just Begun
Post by: Belle on November 12, 2015, 12:00:23 PM
Perfect title (we've only just begun) for this next article.

A long time ago, when Obamacare was passed on Christmas eve, using the sneaky procedure of reconciliation, those choking on this monstrosity warned it was the prelude to national, socialized, rationed, government controlled health insurance.  I used the world health insurance because with O-care, there is no quality health care, my opinion, of course.
 
Let the games begin. (http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29093230/colorado-vote-single-payer-state-health-care-system)