What will be their Fort Sumter? What will be the spark that sets the fire?

[dutch508]

Star Member Hotler (10,175 posts)
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What will be their Fort Sumter? What will be the spark that sets the fire?

Charleston Harbor, SC | Apr 12 - 14, 1861
The attack on Fort Sumter marked the official beginning of the American Civil War—a war that lasted four years, cost the lives of more than 620,000 Americans, and freed 3.9 million enslaved people from bondage.

November 2, 1859.

I have, may it please the court, a few words to say.

In the first place, I deny everything but what I have all along admitted, the design on my part to free the slaves. I intended certainly to have made a clean thing of that matter, as I did last winter, when I went into Missouri and there took slaves without the snapping of a gun on either side, moved them through the country, and finally left them in Canada. I designed to have done the same thing again, on a larger scale. That was all I intended. I never did intend murder, or treason, or the destruction of property, or to excite or incite slaves to rebellion, or to make insurrection.

I have another objection; and that is, it is unjust that I should suffer such a penalty. Had I interfered in the manner which I admit, and which I admit has been fairly proved (for I admire the truthfulness and candor of the greater portion of the witnesses who have testified in this case), had I so interfered in behalf of the rich, the powerful, the intelligent, the so-called great, or in behalf of any of their friends, either father, mother, brother, sister, wife, or children, or any of that class, and suffered and sacrificed what I have in this interference, it would have been all right; and every man in this court would have deemed it an act worthy of reward rather than punishment.

This court acknowledges, as I suppose, the validity of the law of God. I see a book kissed here which I suppose to be the Bible, or at least the New Testament. That teaches me that "all things whatsoever I would that men should do to me, I should do even so to them" [Matthew 7:12]. It teaches me, further, to "remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them" [Hebrews 13:3]. I endeavored to act up to that instruction. I say, I am yet too young to understand that God is any respecter of persons. I believe that to have interfered as I have done as I have always freely admitted I have done in behalf of His despised poor, was not wrong, but right. Now, if it is deemed necessary that I should forfeit my life for the furtherance of the ends of justice, and mingle my blood further with the blood of my children and with the blood of millions in this slave country whose rights are disregarded by wicked, cruel, and unjust enactments, I submit; so let it be done!

Let me say one word further.

I feel entirely satisfied with the treatment I have received on my trial. Considering all the circumstances, it has been more generous than I expected. But I feel no consciousness of guilt. I have stated from the first [day] what was my intention and what was not. I never had any design against the life of any person, nor any disposition to commit treason, or excite slaves to rebel, or make any general insurrection. I never encouraged any man to do so, but always discouraged any idea of that kind.

Let me say, also, a word in regard to the statements made by some of those connected with me. I hear it has been stated by some of them that I have induced them to join me. But the contrary is true. I do not say this to injure them, but as regretting their weakness. There is not one of them but joined me of his own accord, and the greater part of them at their own expense. A number of them I never saw, and never had a word of conversation with, till the day they came to me; and that was for the purpose I have stated.

Now I have done.

John Brown handed a note to the official on the gallows just before he was hanged.

I, John Brown, am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think vainly, flattered myself that without very much bloodshed it might be done.

[CollectivismMustDie]

I believe, that as  soon as the methodology changes from attrition, to outright raiding and grabbing of the guns of our friends, neighbors, and associates, and the blood of obviously innocent patriotic Americans is spilled in that way, the primitives will have their answer.

And they will cheer that bloodshed, without a doubt, and cry crocodile tears for the very same law enforcenement they spent years screaming about defunding.

But then it will be too late, because some people will have rightly concluded that the primitive types,  too, played a role in all of it, and would like to richly and appropriately reward them for their efforts.

If they had any sense, they'd just stop. But they don't. Their madness precludes it.

So be it.

[DefiantSix]

Star Member Hotler (10,175 posts)

What will be their Fort Sumter? What will be the spark that sets the fire?

Charleston Harbor, SC | Apr 12 - 14, 1861
The attack on Fort Sumter marked the official beginning of the American Civil War—a war that lasted four years, cost the lives of more than 620,000 Americans, and freed 3.9 million enslaved people from bondage.

To directly answer your question DUm'Rat, I suspect it will be when Donald J. Trump is ACQUITTED AGAIN and you shitheads hit the streets of your leftist run urban shit holes in your outrage to burn and loot like it was the 2020 "Summer of Love" all over again. We'll let you fully walk into that ambush...

...and then we'll nail the coffin shut. 

[Ralph Wiggum]

I don't know what's more amusing about this incorrect parallel. The fact it is ridiculously asinine or that the DUmmy doesn't realize that the DEMOCRATS started the Civil War at Fort Sumpter.

[Old n Grumpy]

The democrats already are at war with their antifa army

[RuralNc]

Star Member Hotler (10,175 posts)

I read that as Hitler.. 

[USA4ME]

Not sure I’d use John Brown as an example since he had mental issues. But I digress.

I will point out that the whole Civil War could have been avoided by other methods than war. There were numerous other countries who ended slavery, but America is the only one to go to war over it. I’d have to view that as a failure on the part of the abolitionist.

However, I agree if the battle is to take place, it will be started by the angry left and ended by the right. They can’t handle being told No, and their only way for things to be different is to “final solution” those who disagree with them. Just like now, they’ll vilify the “other” as a danger to democracy (As they define it. The rest of us define it as slavery). When their methods fail, they’ll lose control.

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