Bobo The Hobo is alive and well...

[dandi]

...and doesn't like folks praying at the dinner table:

The Straight Story  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon May-10-10 06:07 PM
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No Prayer Ban at Seniors' Meals
   
No Prayer Ban at Seniors' Meals


SAVANNAH, Ga. — Confusion over prayer at a senior center in Port Wentworth has sparked a meeting this week.

Officials are trying to sort out a brouhaha over seniors saying grace over their meals.

The senior center's meals are paid for by federal funds.

Recently, that center told seniors they couldn't say a communal blessing and changed it to a moment of silence.

Port Wentworth Mayor Glenn Jones says, he went immediately to speak to the seniors.

"It's crazy and absurd," Jones says. "All they want to do is say grace over their meal."

The director of the agency administering the meals says, she knows the importance of prayer in many seniors' lives.

Patty Lyons of Senior Citizens, Inc., says the difference is how it's done.

"We are a private non-profit," Lyons says. "We're just trying to follow the regulations that are set forward."

http://www.gpb.org/news/2010/05/10/dhs-no-prayer-ban-at...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8308579

bobbolink  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon May-10-10 06:13 PM
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7. Matthew 6:6
   
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

You should have read further:

Matthew 10:32

Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

DrDan  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Mon May-10-10 06:14 PM
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10. if all at the table want this blessing over their meal, what is the harm . . .
   
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Mon May-10-10 06:21 PM
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First of all the quote speaks to that, doesn't it?
   
Second, and what many of you seem to be missing, is that there are often MANY who do NOT want prayer, and without a ruling like this, they are subjected to it anyway.

A period of silence is sufficient for a true believer.

Only those who wish to inflict their mores on others will object.

DrDan  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon May-10-10 07:59 PM
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55. not necessarily - and as I said - if everyone at a table wants a prayer, what is the harm
   

 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Mon May-10-10 08:07 PM
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64. Would you please consider your "IF"?
   
that really is the point, don't you think?

Make it personal... Do YOU want to have to have meals with somebody else's beliefs foisted on YOU?

I've taken meals with plenty of people who voiced things I didn't believe in. I just kept my mouth shut and kept on noshing. It didn't put me off my fried chicken one bit.

DrDan  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon May-10-10 08:23 PM
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71. bah humbug . . .
   
actually - If I were at a table with you and others who wished to say a blessing - I would probably move to another table.

Not because of the prayer - but because of your insensitivity.

BWAHAHAHAH

bobbolink  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon May-10-10 08:28 PM
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74. The situation I saw WAS a group at their own table, but they were so loud
   
that they forced the end to all other conversation or greeting, or others silence, and dominated EVERYONE. All came to a halt when they decided it was their prayer time.

Inconsiderate, selfish, and definitely not "scriptural".

Oh please. It's Christians saying Grace, not liberal protesters at an Ann Coulter lecture.

bobbolink  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon May-10-10 06:27 PM
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22. You said it much better than I did. "proselytize and shame others"
   
Bingo.

:applause:

If hearing someone saying Grace invokes feelings of shame in you, then you've got much bigger problems than that which can be addressed by shutting up the prayers.

It goes on and on in this vein, with many DUers actually supporting the rights of the seniors.

I can only take bobo in small doses. Reading more than a few posts by her is like listening to fingernails on a chalkboard. The oh-you-are-all-against-me-how-dare-you-not-take-my-view routine makes me want to pour sugar in the gas tank of her apartment.

[The Village Idiot]

Boohoo...

[DefiantSix]

I'm guessing that Bobo the Hobo has checked into one of the Gospel Missions in Denver, judging by the degree of her vehemence on the issue.  Just think, actually requiring a crazy, filthy, freeloading bum to at least sit through a sermon - and PRAYERS over the meals (OMG!!!!!!!!eleventyone!111!) - in order to partake of the food and shelter provided from the kindness of some parishoner's heart.  The shame of it all...

(FYI, the time I spent in a homeless shelter when I was much younger and incredibly stupid was in such a Gospel Mission.  They didn't give me grief over my religion, I respected their beliefs, and we all got along handsomely.  I pulled my head out of my ass, found work, got back on my feet, and moved on in my life, exactly as the folks at the Mission were hoping I would.)

Bobo's self-centeredness disgusts me.

[sofa king]

bobo the hobo will take your food (and your money) but don't you dare ask *anything* of bobo the hobo.

oh! and that food?  it had better be served on fine china.

bobo the hobo has her standards...

[dandi]

bobo the hobo will take your food (and your money) but don't you dare ask *anything* of bobo the hobo.

oh! and that food?  it had better be served on fine china.

bobo the hobo has her standards...

Indeed. Seems like I remember a while back she was posting that she had an opportunity to share a living space - not a shelter, but an apartment or house - with a couple of other low income individuals. But she refused because, by golly, why should she have to share? She deserved her own private residence (at someone else's expense, of course). So she opted to stay in her car and continue to bitch about being homeless.

[kenth]

I sound like a broken record, but if bobbo is a mole, it's one of the most brilliant ones yet. It's awesome to watch her vault over her own contradictions and let the spittle fly in the faces of the other dummies. She will even attack those on her own side, focusing on the most minor of improperly worded phrases. She has the hobo handbook of outrages.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I have silenced my conversations at tables while people of faith have prayed because I decided long ago I have neither the right nor the desire to push my ways onto them by interrupting a personal moment for them.

[ScubaGuy]

...and doesn't like folks praying at the dinner table:




I can only take bobo in small doses. Reading more than a few posts by her is like listening to fingernails on a chalkboard. The oh-you-are-all-against-me-how-dare-you-not-take-my-view routine makes me want to pour sugar in the gas tank of her apartment.

 

[vesta111]

I have silenced my conversations at tables while people of faith have prayed because I decided long ago I have neither the right nor the desire to push my ways onto them by interrupting a personal moment for them.

FOX News now says the old timers will be allowed to say Grace before their meals.

Will these old folk have their Bibles placed in a draw out of sight of non believers.?

Insane, Life has taken their parents and family, their health and dignity.  WTF-- why not take away their last comfort, their faith.?

Anyone with an ounce of decency will give way to others that are praying for any reason.  This is what separates us from animals. 

I don't give a rats ass what god or belief they hold.  Decency and respect for others,  being human comes first.

Short story, I went to dinner with a Christian at a restaurant with a very Churched friend, the meal came and she bowed her head to a quick thank you.  My friend was not of my faith but darn it all, she has the human right to do so. The idiot waitress kept asking her if she needed anything else as she prayed. 

I wanted to punch that woman in the face but let her know we did not appreciate her conduct by leaving a tip of One penny.

[Lord Undies]

We eat out a lot and in a lot of areas.  I have noticed more and more folks saying grace before chowing down.  It warms my heart to see.  I like being in the company of decent people who are not afraid to express their faith in public.

To fail to pray before a meal, if that is your usual arrangement with the Lord, out of shame or social fear, is to deny our Lord.  That is a major no-no.  I won't be caught guilty of it just to appease the senses (really fears) of some crappy liberals and religion haters.

Why is it every time a liberal demands a "right" decent people have to give up a right?   

[BlueStateSaint]

Why is it every time a liberal demands a "right" decent people have to give up a right? 

Because, sir, our rights are wrong to them.

[dandi]

I sound like a broken record, but if bobbo is a mole, it's one of the most brilliant ones yet. It's awesome to watch her vault over her own contradictions and let the spittle fly in the faces of the other dummies. She will even attack those on her own side, focusing on the most minor of improperly worded phrases. She has the hobo handbook of outrages.

I vote best mole of all time.

[DefiantSix]

I vote best mole of all time.

I vote honest to goodness batshit crazy hobo, personally.  Bobo has got to be truly ****ed in the head, because someone faking that degree of batshit would slip up eventually, and as Bobo has literally jumped EVERYONE at Skin's Island of misfit ****-ups with her hyper-sensitive victim trump card status, such a slip up would be fatal for the Bobo the Hobo persona/character.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I vote best mole of all time.

The possibility cannot be discounted.  Despite every appearance of random and irrational rage, a mind so disorganized that her life is in fragments, and a fundamentally combative attitude toward everyone, she nonetheless manages to skirt actual bannable rule violations with brinkmanship and finesse worthy of a Kissinger.

It's really quite remarkable. 

[JohnnyReb]

The possibility cannot be discounted.  Despite every appearance of random and irrational rage, a mind so disorganized that her life is in fragments, and a fundamentally combative attitude toward everyone, she nonetheless manages to skirt actual bannable rule violations with brinkmanship and finesse worthy of a Kissinger.

It's really quite remarkable. 

Well, just in case she's not a mole...I think a good spraying of her car for bed bugs will probably do a lot to change her attitude.

[BlueStateSaint]

Well, just in case she's not a mole...I think a good spraying of her car for bed bugs will probably do a lot to change her attitude.

With napalm.

[djones520]

I have silenced my conversations at tables while people of faith have prayed because I decided long ago I have neither the right nor the desire to push my ways onto them by interrupting a personal moment for them.

Amen.  I'll fold my hands, and respectfully remain silent while prayers are made.  Can't ask someone to respect your religious beliefs if you refuse to respect theirs.

[dandi]

I vote honest to goodness batshit crazy hobo, personally.  Bobo has got to be truly ****ed in the head, because someone faking that degree of batshit would slip up eventually, and as Bobo has literally jumped EVERYONE at Skin's Island of misfit ****-ups with her hyper-sensitive victim trump card status, such a slip up would be fatal for the Bobo the Hobo persona/character.

Nah, it's way too easy to pretend to be a liberal - it requires no thought.  The discipline to pull it off, now that's another story.

[lastparker]

The possibility cannot be discounted.  Despite every appearance of random and irrational rage, a mind so disorganized that her life is in fragments, and a fundamentally combative attitude toward everyone, she nonetheless manages to skirt actual bannable rule violations with brinkmanship and finesse worthy of a Kissinger.

It's really quite remarkable. 

H5!

[Tucker]

Bobo is not long for this world. With the seed of a mole being planted, Der Skimmer and crew will look at her under a new light. Suspicion has been aroused. Her fate is sealed. he powers that be at DU would rather TS a suspected mole than to take a chance that one is thriving among the primitives.

[kenth]

Bobo is not long for this world. With the seed of a mole being planted, Der Skimmer and crew will look at her under a new light. Suspicion has been aroused. Her fate is sealed. he powers that be at DU would rather TS a suspected mole than to take a chance that one is thriving among the primitives.

That's what makes her even more alluring, er, in as much one can find hobos alluring. In spite of her vicious attacks on the dummies, ignoring the rules, etc., she is able to conjure up enough victimhood to get away with it. It's great to watch.

On another note, she's the only one vying for Top Dummy. The others are real slackers, even more so than usual.

[jinxmchue]

The situation I saw WAS a group at their own table, but they were so loud
   
that they forced the end to all other conversation or greeting, or others silence, and dominated EVERYONE. All came to a halt when they decided it was their prayer time.

Inconsiderate, selfish, and definitely not "scriptural".

2.5 minibongs for this minibouncy.

[Tucker]

That's what makes her even more alluring, er, in as much one can find hobos alluring. In spite of her vicious attacks on the dummies, ignoring the rules, etc., she is able to conjure up enough victimhood to get away with it. It's great to watch.

On another note, she's the only one vying for Top Dummy. The others are real slackers, even more so than usual.

Lefty flinging poop star is rising.

[Randy]

So if Bobo goes apeshit over someone praying in the same room as her I wonder what happens if you were to throw holy water on her....



Jus wonderin'  :innocent:

[JohnnyReb]

So if Bobo goes apeshit over someone praying in the same room as her I wonder what happens if you were to throw holy water on her....



Jus wonderin'  :innocent:

"I'm melting".....from the Wizard of Oz.