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IdaBriggs gets kid-glove treatment from DUmmies
« on: February 11, 2009, 03:47:14 PM »
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ARGH! Its tough being an Evil Landlord!!! 

I'm a 4th generation landlord; we took over managing some property for my mother after my father died. It doesn't make a profit, but I was raised that it is an honor to provide good quality housing for people. We have 8 rooms that are rented out (there are two buildings) and a three-bedroom apartment that used to be where my mother lived before we relocated her to a smaller, less memory filled condominium. The kitchen in the 3-bedroom unit is amazing; it also has an office, a fireplace, and a two-car garage. We pay for the gas, electric, water, trash pickup, and outside maintenance (the two buildings are on an acre of property in a great neighborhood, and there are three deer that visit). I grew up there, and its where my father passed.

I made the mistake of moving in a family that was having some problems last June. Instead of listening to my mother, I got nervous because it had been empty for two months (this is the 3-bedroom unit), and accepted folks I shouldn't have. She was working two part time jobs, and he had a good job at a local factory; they shouldn't have had any trouble paying the modest rent.

They were late on their first month's rent payment after moving in (July); I should have evicted them on the spot, but we switched it from a monthly rental agreement to a weekly one, which they assured me they would have no problem paying. They paid mostly on time in August, and did okay in September, but then the husband was hospitalized for diabetes related problems AGAIN, and they stopped paying at the beginning of October.

He doesn't work in a union shop, so he didn't have any short-term disability. No work = no pay. I'm not sure what happened to the wife's two part time jobs, but apparently, she isn't working them anymore. I started eviction proceedings in November (delayed it while trying to work with them), and they were hours away from having their stuff put on the street two weeks before Christmas (please keep in mind they kept making promises as to when they should get some money, and I delayed as long as I could), when we struck a deal on December 10th to keep them in the place.

I shouldn't have done that. They still owe money on the judgment from the end of November, and haven't paid anything toward the 'currently due' rent since. They told me they'd catch me up with their income tax refund, and hoped to have his social security disability under control by then. (He ended up having surgery last month to remove a portion of his lung, and is back in the hospital again due to an infection.)

I'm being told they are now having marital issues (understandable with all of the stress they are going through), and he might not come home when he is released from the hospital/doesn't plan on paying me off with the income tax refund because he's leaving his family, which means either a) I get to keep supporting them, which I can't do, or b) I get to toss them out onto the street, because so far, they aren't leaving on their own. I am not sure why the wife isn't working, but apparently she can't find anything. She spends a lot of time dealing with different agencies, and chasing down stuff for his medical problems, but that isn't paying the bills, and its killing us.

My mother is doing her best to bite her tongue, because obviously, I've been an idiot. They were living on the financial edge, and now they are taking my family down with them. Its the 11th of the month, and I haven't paid the mortgage yet. I had to beg for an extension last month to keep on the heat and the electric for ALL of us!

She was served yesterday with a court date (February 24th); they will have about two weeks afterwards before the sheriff's department will put their stuff in the street. It will cost me several hundred dollars to get her out, and the odds are good we'll never see the money they owe. I'm not sure what I'm going to do to keep everything from going into foreclosure at the moment, but if I can't figure it out, everyone else is going to end up homeless, too. Trying to be 'nice' to this family has literally destroyed our credit.

The most annoying part is that I *knew* better, intellectually. There was a part of me that knew I was being fed a line of crap, but when she told me she had found a job in December, I thought there was a glimmer of hope, plus hello! Tax refund time is a good time to catch up on things, and a guy who needs to have a hunk of lung pulled out sounds like someone who should be getting disability to me. But honestly, I kind of got the idea they 'knew the system' and there were a lot of clues that they had taken advantage of it in the past.

They've got two young adolescents, plus a returning twenty-something year old living with them. They are going to end up on the street, but frankly, I need to get someone in the property who can actually PAY THE RENT which is used to PAY THE MORTGAGE. In Michigan's economy, that might take a bit of time, despite how reasonable the rent is, and how nice the place is.

We are screwed.

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Hypocrites!!  If a conservative/Republican were to make the exact same post, the DUmmies would be calling them evil, hateful, uncaring, and greedy.

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Re: IdaBriggs gets kid-glove treatment from DUmmies
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2009, 03:52:26 PM »
Oh my.

That's very unDemocrat, unliberal, un0bamaite, unprimitive, of the Idiot Briggs primitive, to not joyfully and gratefully pick up the burden and carry it.

After all, that's what they expect "other people" to do.

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Re: IdaBriggs gets kid-glove treatment from DUmmies
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2009, 03:53:40 PM »
Two things appear to me, (1) She must not live in one of the worker's paradises where eviction is almost impossible and landlords are enslaved to bad tenants, e.g. Wisconsin, also the fact the guy was not in a union-dominated state would indicate it was not deep Blue territory, and (2) although from the description of the ownership of this property, it should have been fully paid off long ago, it is obviously leveraged for all it is worth (and then some given a falling real estate market) or she wouldn't have gotten antsy about the vacancy.
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Re: IdaBriggs gets kid-glove treatment from DUmmies
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2009, 04:35:32 PM »
What is this person doing with such vast wealth and not happily sending 70% of its value to the federal government every year as she should?

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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2009, 04:43:14 PM »
What is this person doing with such vast wealth and not happily sending 70% of its value to the federal government every year as she should?

The Idiot Briggs primitive thinks you're supposed to be doing this.

As for her, advocating it is all she has to do.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2009, 04:51:15 PM »
The Idiot Briggs primitive thinks you're supposed to be doing this.

As for her, advocating it is all she has to do.

Indeed and a perfect illustration as to how ignorant and idiotic they are when they spout off endlessly about the "wealthy" in America.

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Re: IdaBriggs gets kid-glove treatment from DUmmies
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2009, 11:26:37 PM »
Hypocrites!!  If a conservative/Republican were to make the exact same post, the DUmmies would be calling them evil, hateful, uncaring, and greedy.

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OMG thats exactly what the O and Dems are doing to the whole country. we can't pay the rent they're gonna get us

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Re: IdaBriggs gets kid-glove treatment from DUmmies
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2009, 12:11:40 AM »
The professionally poor---they knew their earliest possible departure date the day they moved in. ....and they've managed to milk a few more weeks past that.
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Re: IdaBriggs gets kid-glove treatment from DUmmies
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2009, 12:21:47 AM »
Isn't this amazing?!

How is it these citizens of the great state of America still wants their client to actually PAY for their housing?

Haven't we heard for the last year, most people cannot pay their own way because of the evil Repubs?

Ain't it a bitch when the shoe is on their foot!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2009, 12:41:28 AM »
Isn't this amazing?!

How is it these citizens of the great state of America still wants their client to actually PAY for their housing?

Haven't we heard for the last year, most people cannot pay their own way because of the evil Repubs?

Ain't it a bitch when the shoe is on their foot!!!!!!!!!!

the government is sucking down resources and we let them, and then we won't be able to pay up when the mortgage comes due

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Re: IdaBriggs gets kid-glove treatment from DUmmies
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2009, 11:31:29 AM »
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32. UPDATE: SHE BOUGHT A NEW CAR!!! 

I am awake and absolutely enraged! I spoke to the wife tonight, who told me the husband is definitely NOT coming back, and she finally admitted she got the tax refund, AND BOUGHT A NEW CAR because HE plans on keeping their other one, and she therefore had "no choice" about it. I told her she did so have a choice -- she could have paid the rent, and she said she realized she can't afford it without the husband (which she can't, since she doesn't work), and since he is leaving her, she and the kids need to find housing/he'll be taking the car since its in his name and she'll move out as quickly as she can, but she PROMISES SOMEDAY we'll get our money.

She didn't give us a dime, but she bought herself a new car.

Words fail me. She has financially destroyed our family, but she bought herself a new car, and she spent their entire tax refund on it.

I am so furious with her -- and to be honest, ME!!! -- I can barely type. My husband wasn't even surprised; he expected something like this, and just gave me a 'you should have booted her out already/you are the one who let her get away with this' speech.

Words fail me. He is right.

SHE BOUGHT A NEW CAR!!!  :banghead:

Irresponsible.  Leeching off others.  Only thinking of themself.  This tenant is the product of everything liberals have promoted for the last 100+ years and Idiot Briggs gets upset?

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Re: IdaBriggs gets kid-glove treatment from DUmmies
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2009, 11:36:43 AM »
Now the idiot briggs knows how republicans feel when democrats implement another stupid tax increase.

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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2009, 11:39:11 AM »
Now the idiot briggs knows how republicans feel when democrats implement another stupid tax increase.

Unfortunately, the ability to connect what's happening to her now with how liberals conduct their lives and expect others to pay for it doesn't stand of chance of ever meeting inside her tiny pea-sized brain.

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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2009, 12:20:30 PM »
Irresponsible.  Leeching off others.  Only thinking of themself.  This tenant is the product of everything liberals have promoted for the last 100+ years and Idiot Briggs gets upset?

Now, I know this goes against the grain of what the parents and church and other decent and civilized people taught me, but I think this is funny.

I got no sympathy for the Idiot Briggs primitive.

I'm hoping it's just a venal, a small, sin, to be this way.
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2009, 12:44:52 PM »
Irresponsible.  Leeching off others.  Only thinking of themself.  This tenant is the product of everything liberals have promoted for the last 100+ years and Idiot Briggs gets upset?

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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2009, 12:57:06 PM »
.....although from the description of the ownership of this property, it should have been fully paid off long ago, it is obviously leveraged for all it is worth (and then some given a falling real estate market) or she wouldn't have gotten antsy about the vacancy.

I'll bet that's it.

Mom and Dad paid off the mortgages a long time ago, years or decades ago, and then daughter and son-in-law borrowed wads of money on the real-estate.

In case anyone isn't aware, the Idiot Briggs primitive lives in Michigan.

The Idiot Briggs primitive was the cause of the Great Rupture between LibraryLady and franksolich at our old home.

LibraryLady had felt sorry for the Idiot Briggs primitive, because she was going through a difficult pregnancy, from which twins emerged, as if this would forgive her stupid politics.  franksolich insisted the Idiot Briggs primitive deserved all the misery she got, and more. 

After that, no more nice-nice between LibraryLady and franksolich.
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2009, 01:01:45 PM »
The Idiot should be in the brig

she is probably going to end up without the rental property and will probably be renting an apartment and have Mom with her. That should be fun, especially since Mom will blame her for this fiasco

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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2009, 01:43:43 PM »
Was Ida Briggs spouting off stuff before I got here that would have made this hypocracy rather than just a cautionary tale?   Oh, and what was the DU's response to her wailings?
 
I would also add:  Why wasn't she making an evil profit from this operation to hedge against business risk like this??  As a matter of fact, the IRS says you have to turn a profit 3 out of 5 years.  Otherwise, you're being a "tax shelterer" and you have to give back all the depreciation and expense write-offs, including Ida's mortgage allocation.  I'm getting good at this landlady stuff. 

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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2009, 03:55:05 PM »
I love real estate and rental properties in general.  This analogy works great for explaining how the economy works.  Rental properties are like a microcosm of the entire economy and it bugs the hell out of liberals.

House note+Taxes+Insurance+HOA dues+maintenance+vacancy= Must have dollars to break even.  If any one of these factors gets changed then the 'Must have dollars to break even' has to change.

This is the arguement I use most often when explaining to DUmasses about why corporations don't pay taxes.  I don't pay any of the above on my rental properties the lessee does.  If it sits empty it is my responsibility to pay all those things so I don't rent for break even I must have some profit which is put back for the vacancy period.

If a renter doesn't pay then they don't stay.  It is LIFE in a nutshell and I love it.

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