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male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« on: January 27, 2009, 05:01:43 PM »
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He is so angry he can hardly see straight, and he asked me for help responding.

I thought all of you could contribute, so here we go!

Subject: all about ice cream

this says it all.

From teacher in Brownsville :

We are worried about "the cow" when it is all about the "Ice Cream."

The most eye-opening civics lesson I ever had was while teaching third
grade this year. The presidential election was heating up and some of the
children showed an interest. I decided we would have an election for a
class president.

We would choose our nominees. They would make a campaign speech
and the class would vote.

To simplify the process, candidates were nominated by other class members.
We discussed what kinds of characteristics these students should have.
We got many nominations and from those, Jamie and Olivia were picked
to run for the top spot.

The class had done a great job in their selections. Both candidates were
good kids. I thought Jamie might have an advantage because he got lots of
parental support. I had never seen Olivia's mother.

The day arrived when they were to make their speeches Jamie went first.
He had specific ideas about how to make our class a better place. He ended
by promising to do his very best. Every one applauded. He sat down and
Olivia came to the podium.

Her speech was concise. She said, "If you will vote for me, I will give
you ice cream." She sat down. The class went wild. "Yes! Yes! We want ice
cream."

She surely would say more. She did not have to. A discussion followed. How
did she plan to pay for the ice cream? She wasn't sure. Would her parents
buy it or would the class pay for it. She didn't know. The class really
didn't care. All they were thinking about was ice cream.

Jamie was forgotten. Olivia won by a land slide.

Every time Barack Obama opens his mouth he offers ice cream and sixty
percent of the people react like nine year olds. They want ice cream. The
other forty percent know they're going to have to feed the cow and clean
up the mess.

How can we shoot this mess down?

 :argh:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4922413&mesg_id=4922413

You can't shoot it down, it's the truth.  Currently, the achievers (conservatives) stand the chance of having to pay for those who want everything without them having to pay for it (liberals).  People will eventually recognize it, hopefully before it's too late.

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49. The follow-up story:

Olivia talked to her classmates about ice cream. As a group they decided that ice cream was made of cream, sugar, eggs, and chocolate. Olivia said she could bring sugar from home. Jamie, not wanting to be left out, said he knew where he could buy cream, and his mom could find them a recipe. Other students brought eggs and chocolate. This gave me, as the teacher, a great opportunity to bring my old ice cream maker and teach the children how to make ice cream.

Jamie may have had plans, which could have made him seem like a decent choice for class president, but Olivia, in listening to her classmates, was actually better able to accomplish things with the group.

Those who expect the gov't give them everything for free actually pitching in to help?  Now that's fiction.

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51. It is a very sad thing indeed when the GOP resort to simplistic emails like this to bolster their non-existent plans to solve the economic crisis they created.

Their members in Congress are blocking solutions to the recession began under their party's leader and their propaganda wing (the GOP-controlled media) are perpetuating their favorite lies to cope.

America is in a recession, which quite possibly will become a depression if it hasn't already.

Sadly, the GOP voters don't seem to know what's going on.

While we know how the bank crisis started, GOP voters demand the Supreme Court investigate Obama's citizenship.

While we know that the banks are being duplicitous about how they're spending the TARP funds, GOP voters believe that Obama didn't take the oath properly.

While we discuss how to help people who are out of work, being evicted and unable to pay for the basic necessities (food, healthcare, etc), GOP voters are reverting back to campaign mode and accusing Obama of empty rhetoric.

Who the **** cares about fictional ice cream in a hypothetical school, when there are real families forced to go hungry right outside their doors?

Well, it's time for the GOP to educate themselves: how many people in their community are out of work? How many foreclosures have taken place in their community? How many banks are providing loans to help their community? Does their representative support programs that help the unemployed, the homeless, the sick and the hungry in their community? If not, why not?

This idiot is one of the biggest liars at the DUmp.

Hey ColbertWatcher, if you really cared about the truth, you'd be pointing the finger at the one's who undermined the financial industry by lowering the lending standards in order to buy votes; namely Sen. Dodd and Rep. Frank.  But you'd rather lie, so say in the safe confines of DU and don't dare venture out to be confronted by those who can rip you to shreads with the facts.

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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2009, 05:11:13 PM »
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49. The follow-up story:

Olivia talked to her classmates about ice cream. As a group they decided that ice cream was made of cream, sugar, eggs, and chocolate. Olivia said she could bring sugar from home. Jamie, not wanting to be left out, said he knew where he could buy cream, and his mom could find them a recipe. Other students brought eggs and chocolate. This gave me, as the teacher, a great opportunity to bring my old ice cream maker and teach the children how to make ice cream.

You f'n dumbass, do you honestly believe everyone in the classroom WANTS to do anything other than eat the damn ice cream? There's a REASON your utopia doesn't work. There's a REASON William Bradford scrapped his little plan about 400 years ago. Some people, and eventually, MOST people don't want to, nor will they, work when it's someone else providing for them. Look at your own dumbass site. Look at that infected leech you have in that cat thing.
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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2009, 05:22:56 PM »
They can`t answer it because it has no counter arguement.
The truth and facts are funny like that. :-)
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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2009, 05:41:05 PM »
Quote from: Carl on January 27, 2009, 05:22:56 PM
They can`t answer it because it has no counter arguement.
The truth and facts are funny like that. :-)

The proper follow-up is:

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Olivia got elected.  And every day Olivia asked for 5 cents to pay for the ice cream.  Those who brought lunch money had to give Olivia 5 cents -- or more if they had nice clothes.

But, even though everyone got excited about the ice cream, no one ever got any except Olivia's very close friends. 
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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2009, 05:42:08 PM »
Quote from: Carl on January 27, 2009, 05:22:56 PM
They can`t answer it because it has no counter arguement.
The truth and facts are funny like that. :-)

Like the guys who eat together who get a "refund" and beat up the rich one who pays for most of their meals.  Classic.
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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2009, 05:43:33 PM »
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Olivia got elected.  And every day Olivia asked for 5 cents to pay for the ice cream.  Those who brought lunch money had to give Olivia 5 cents -- or more if they had nice clothes.

But, even though everyone got excited about the ice cream, no one ever got any except Olivia's very close friends.

I would say that one deserves that bullseye picture. :-)
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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2009, 06:00:15 PM »
Quote from: Carl on January 27, 2009, 05:43:33 PM
I would say that one deserves that bullseye picture. :-)
I can't Bullseye myself -- that ain't right.
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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2009, 06:09:39 PM »
Quote from: freedumb2003 on January 27, 2009, 06:00:15 PM
I can't Bullseye myself -- that ain't right.


No,I suppose not but still an accurate assesment of socialist reality and libthink.
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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2009, 06:13:00 PM »
Quote from: Carl on January 27, 2009, 06:09:39 PM
No,I suppose not but still an accurate assesment of socialist reality and libthink.
I humbly accept your very nice post.

You may want to bookmark this post for the use of "humbly" and "accept" by me in one post

;)

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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2009, 07:13:00 PM »
The truth....IT BURNS!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2009, 07:20:58 PM »
California "I've been mistaken many times for a man" Peggy, must have received that email from her man WCGreen.

She needs to stick with writing her moist poems to him and not worry about ice cream.

By the way, it WAS funny !!   :rotf:
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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2009, 03:03:23 AM »
But, even though everyone got excited about the ice cream Obama's election no one ever got any money except Olivia'sObama's very close friends and voters. 
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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2009, 08:02:58 AM »
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49. The follow-up story:

Olivia talked to her classmates about ice cream. As a group they decided that ice cream was made of cream, sugar, eggs, and chocolate. Olivia said she could bring sugar from home. Jamie, not wanting to be left out, said he knew where he could buy cream, and his mom could find them a recipe. Other students brought eggs and chocolate. This gave me, as the teacher, a great opportunity to bring my old ice cream maker and teach the children how to make ice cream.

Jamie may have had plans, which could have made him seem like a decent choice for class president, but Olivia, in listening to her classmates, was actually better able to accomplish things with the group.
Wait a minute.

You said you would GIVE me ice cream. You didn't say I would have to work to get it. I could have done that and still voted for the other guy.

We sure as hell don't need one person to tell us we can do something together.

And what happens if somebosy doesn't live up to their end of the bargain and brings their assigned ingredient? That one person ruins the entire recipe for everybody. Suppose there is a vanilla-extract crisis? Will the rest of the students have to kick in to make up for what one kid couldn't bring? Wouldn't that leave the sugar or milk bearing kids to think they don't have to bring their ingredients because the higher cost they have to bear could instead be shifted on to the balance of the class?

I'll get my own damned ice cream, thank-you. If I have any left over I'll let you know...

...if you deserve it.
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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2009, 09:48:57 AM »
If the 'nasty' email is so obviously and outrageously wrong, why does the liberal recipient need to turn to his friends for advice on how to respond?
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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2009, 10:17:24 AM »
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49. The follow-up story:

Olivia talked to her classmates about ice cream. As a group they decided that ice cream was made of cream, sugar, eggs, and chocolate. Olivia said she could bring sugar from home. Jamie, not wanting to be left out, said he knew where he could buy cream, and his mom could find them a recipe. Other students brought eggs and chocolate. This gave me, as the teacher, a great opportunity to bring my old ice cream maker and teach the children how to make ice cream.

so 4 kids out of a class of what...20?  brought the stuff to make the ice cream, and the rest sat on their asses and waited for the ice  cream to be handed to them......which are the republicnas and which are the dems, hmmmm?
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Re: male Peggy primitive angry at e-mail
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2009, 10:56:19 AM »
Was anybody at DU able to respond and refute this in a comprehensible way, or did the topic just die? 

Anyway, you wouldn't want to try this in nanny-state CA, where you're not allowed to bring cupcakes to school anymore.  Or in paranoid NY, where if they had their way, you'd need a $500 license to make dinner for your family.  Does the whole mess fall under the FDA or the USDA?  Probably would have something to do with the vanilla vs. chocolate.  Or if the eggs were large vs. medium.  Where does the senate agriculture committee weigh in here?  The NEA?  Isn't this encroaching on the Service Worker's Union?  Is chocolate "racist?"  Do the boys have to do the dishes in order to not be "sexist?" 

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