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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on September 18, 2019, 06:29:57 PM
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kentuck (93,263 posts)
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Do you believe that Iran bombed the oil fields of Saudi Arabia??
I'm not sure although it does appear to be the case.
Who else would have that type of technology?
Although the orders may not have come from the Iranian government, there are independent rebel groups throughout the region that have loyalty to the ayatollahs.
It was quite a daring attack.
Trump says he is going to impose more sanctions. I don't know that I would believe that? I think he might do whatever the Kingdom might ask him to do?
:whatever:
What are the odds the DUmpmonkiez think Trump was behind it all?
Star Member The Velveteen Ocelot (74,629 posts)
1. The real question is what is to be done about it.
Seems to me the problem is between Saudi Arabia and Iran. Let them sort it out.
Proud Liberal Dem (18,640 posts)
47. Exactly my thoughts
Plus, Trump sold them a bunch of military equipment. Let them slug it out. What is our interest there?
Initech (76,992 posts)
48. I feel like Saudi Arabia is the worst country in the world.
They can go eat a bag of shit for all I care. But yeah, let them and Iran sort it out. We do not need to intervene.
Amishman (1,792 posts)
4. Yes, it seems pretty conclusive
The flight paths of the missiles rule out it being Yemeni rebels, as does the amount of intelligence gathering needed to be able to know the structure of the sites missile defense systems and how to evade them.
Amishman (1,792 posts)
33. All the impacts were on the north side and Kuwait confirmed the missiles flew over them
CNN has the details
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/17/middleeast/saudi-attack-iran-base-intl/index.html
Missiles all hit from the north and Kuwait confirms the missiles passed over them.
The missiles the Houthi have would have difficulty reaching the site with a straight path, and definitely not enough range to make the described approach.
Star Member uponit7771 (58,198 posts)
5. No, after the NDI refusing congress request and the air force spending tons of dough at Trump bug infested resorts I believe there are too many MAGAts in the government right now.
Star Member RainCaster (3,413 posts)
7. NO! This is Saudi's problem anyhow- we must stay out of it.
Those oil rich bastards can fight their own battles, we do NOT need to get into this at all.
Star Member gordianot (13,755 posts)
10. Why didn't the Saudi's pony up some of those billions for air defense?
Keep American lives out of this mess but America does seem to be running a protection racket.
Star Member GoCubsGo (22,231 posts)
14. "Seem"?
America IS running a protection racket for the Saudis. They pay us, but it's our citizens who pay with their blood. Just like the first Gulf War, where we were paid to do the Kuwaiti's and Saudi's dirty work
Star Member scarytomcat (838 posts)
11. no
someone else took credit and they share a border with SA so drones could make it
a drone does not have enough fuel to fly from Iran to SA
if they did shot missiles they would have flown over our navy position in the area
did we go on alert at the time or were we involved?
we are trying to create a reason to bomb Iran
Star Member TexasProgresive (11,037 posts)
16. Who else would have that type of technology?
Israel??
Who know what to believe in the age of Trump. I don't know if it is Israel but it sure would be a distraction form Bebe and Donald's problems.
I don't discount the possibility of conspiracy at high levels of intelligence and military groups as I am the son of two people who carried the secrets of their careers to the grave. Both had Top Secret and one Q level clearances. Professional military and intelligence people can keep secrets.
Star Member ooky (3,176 posts)
22. Unfortunately, the president is an outrageous liar.
Nothing he says can be believed.
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My prediction:
Dummie will scream: "Stay out of it!!!!!11111eleventy1111!!!"
Until President Trump says he has decided to stay out of it then the dummies will be all "Abandoning our closest ally!!!!!".
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Is it LIHOP or MIHOP on Trump's part this time?
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Does anybody want to explain to these idiots that if Gulf oil stops flowing consumer prices skyrocket, destroying those fixed incomes they're always going on about.
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kentuck (93,263 posts)
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Do you believe that Iran bombed the oil fields of Saudi Arabia??
Ummmmm, I do not believe anyone has claimed that Iran attacked Saudi oilfields. What has been said is that Iran's surrogates, the Houthis, used Iran-supplied weapons to attack Saudi oilfields. And the Houthis have taken credit for the attacks.
Not that facts matter to DU's Full-Cry-CT-ists.
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Ummmmm, I do not believe anyone has claimed that Iran attacked Saudi oilfields. What has been said is that Iran's surrogates, the Houthis, used Iran-supplied weapons to attack Saudi oilfields. And the Houthis have taken credit for the attacks.
Not that facts matter to DU's Full-Cry-CT-ists.
The four large spherical tanks that were hit (empty at the time) were hit from the general direction that Iran is in. I heard something today to the effect that all of the missiles and all of the drones (8 and 10, respectively) hit from the northeast, which just happens to be the direction that Iran is in.