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Title: Beliefs, by UndergroundPanther...
Post by: dutch508 on August 31, 2020, 05:57:54 PM
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Star Member I_UndergroundPanther (3,101 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214003669

Beliefs

Beliefs can be toxic to individuals,and society.

Some beliefs inherent in those beliefs are anti social,anti humanity,anti life tenets.

We have to find a way undo beliefs in people that will rationalize and deny everything to keep it.
I'm not sure it can be done. Because belief requires someone to suspend reality and chop it into chunks that favorably cast the beliefs as good or nessesary to relieve the cognitive dissonance that lying to oneself with a belief causes.

But when the believers are led into fanatacism,cults of personality and death the beliefs become self indoctrinating. Reinforced to the point the individuals personality is basically silenced,ripped out and replaced by the cult object. Because they have given away thier power they fight harder to stay blind because thier ego is held captive they give up self responsibility that all humans have. The cult object pretends to absolve them of thier "sins" like what the right is doing to shield that 17 year old murderer.. eventually the person that's brainwashed but in denial will push the envelope until something breaks,either thier mind or society as they act out thier pathology trying to resolve thier inner conflict the belief causes. What that acting out entails is the stuff of nightmares.


The more one stares into the light the more urgent,vicious and bigger thier shadow gets.

How big are Trumper shadows? Big enough to smother democracy.

Sometimes it becomes important to realize beliefs can turn people into husks that authoritarians fill,and these husks of people
With no identity follow even into death,of us or them. Thier shadows rage and take the form of Donald trump like an insect controlling the minds of it's host the believers dare never ask why.

Just a thought.

 :whatever:

Title: Re: Beliefs, by UndergroundPanther...
Post by: SVPete on August 31, 2020, 06:08:43 PM
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Star Member I_UndergroundPanther (3,101 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214003669

Beliefs

Beliefs can be toxic to individuals,and society.

Some beliefs inherent in those beliefs are anti social,anti humanity,anti life tenets.

We have to find a way undo beliefs in people that will rationalize and deny everything to keep it.

Stalin and Mao could make suggestions I know you'd love.

Physician heal thyself, UGP.
Title: Re: Beliefs, by UndergroundPanther...
Post by: BamaMoose on August 31, 2020, 06:11:40 PM
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Because belief requires someone to suspend reality and chop it into chunks that favorably cast the beliefs as good or nessesary to relieve the cognitive dissonance that lying to oneself with a belief causes.

Said by a women who believes she is not only male, but is actually a panther.  I wonder if Blackie the Ghost Chicken was helping her write that.
Title: Re: Beliefs, by UndergroundPanther...
Post by: Texacon on August 31, 2020, 06:54:42 PM
Said by a women who believes she is not only male, but is actually a panther.  I wonder if Blackie the Ghost Chicken was helping her write that.


^5, you beat me to it.

KC
Title: Re: Beliefs, by UndergroundPanther...
Post by: I_B_Perky on August 31, 2020, 07:10:18 PM
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Star Member I_UndergroundPanther (3,101 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214003669

Beliefs

Beliefs can be toxic to individuals,and society.

Some beliefs inherent in those beliefs are anti social,anti humanity,anti life tenets.

We have to find a way undo beliefs in people that will rationalize and deny everything to keep it.
I'm not sure it can be done. Because belief requires someone to suspend reality and chop it into chunks that favorably cast the beliefs as good or nessesary to relieve the cognitive dissonance that lying to oneself with a belief causes.

But when the believers are led into fanatacism,cults of personality and death the beliefs become self indoctrinating. Reinforced to the point the individuals personality is basically silenced,ripped out and replaced by the cult object. Because they have given away thier power they fight harder to stay blind because thier ego is held captive they give up self responsibility that all humans have. The cult object pretends to absolve them of thier "sins" like what the right is doing to shield that 17 year old murderer.. eventually the person that's brainwashed but in denial will push the envelope until something breaks,either thier mind or society as they act out thier pathology trying to resolve thier inner conflict the belief causes. What that acting out entails is the stuff of nightmares.


The more one stares into the light the more urgent,vicious and bigger thier shadow gets.

How big are Trumper shadows? Big enough to smother democracy.

Sometimes it becomes important to realize beliefs can turn people into husks that authoritarians fill,and these husks of people
With no identity follow even into death,of us or them. Thier shadows rage and take the form of Donald trump like an insect controlling the minds of it's host the believers dare never ask why.

Just a thought.

Ya know Subway Kitty... I actually understand what you are saying and you are correct. *  :cheersmate:


* I'm on meds and Jack Daniels cause I had hernia surgery today... take that for what it is.
Title: Re: Beliefs, by UndergroundPanther...
Post by: freedumb2003b on August 31, 2020, 10:34:33 PM
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Some beliefs inherent in those beliefs are anti social,anti humanity,anti life tenets.

Yeah like exalting blacks and wanting to destroy whites and all the civilization created by the, destroying, burninh, maiming and killing anyone who dares disagree with narrow communist victimhood orthodoxy and killing babies by the millions and old people by the thousands.

Yep one need look no further than the nearest lefty to find toxic deadly beliefs in full bloom.
Title: Re: Beliefs, by UndergroundPanther...
Post by: USA4ME on September 01, 2020, 07:33:22 AM
So the freak wants to throw those who disagree with it into concentration camps. It’s expressed this type of “death to conservatives” hate-filled nonsense before, so I would expect it to continue.

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Title: Re: Beliefs, by UndergroundPanther...
Post by: 67 Rover on September 01, 2020, 07:34:22 AM
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Star Member I_UndergroundPanther (3,101 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214003669

Beliefs

Beliefs can be toxic to individuals,and society.

Some beliefs inherent in those beliefs are anti social,anti humanity,anti life tenets.

We have to find a way undo beliefs in people that will rationalize and deny everything to keep it.
I'm not sure it can be done. Because belief requires someone to suspend reality and chop it into chunks that favorably cast the beliefs as good or nessesary to relieve the cognitive dissonance that lying to oneself with a belief causes.

But when the believers are led into fanatacism,cults of personality and death the beliefs become self indoctrinating. Reinforced to the point the individuals personality is basically silenced,ripped out and replaced by the cult object. Because they have given away thier power they fight harder to stay blind because thier ego is held captive they give up self responsibility that all humans have. The cult object pretends to absolve them of thier "sins" like what the right is doing to shield that 17 year old murderer.. eventually the person that's brainwashed but in denial will push the envelope until something breaks,either thier mind or society as they act out thier pathology trying to resolve thier inner conflict the belief causes. What that acting out entails is the stuff of nightmares.


The more one stares into the light the more urgent,vicious and bigger thier shadow gets.

How big are Trumper shadows? Big enough to smother democracy.

Sometimes it becomes important to realize beliefs can turn people into husks that authoritarians fill,and these husks of people
With no identity follow even into death,of us or them. Thier shadows rage and take the form of Donald trump like an insect controlling the minds of it's host the believers dare never ask why.

Just a thought.

UGP is into the Pineapples again I see.
Title: Re: Beliefs, by UndergroundPanther...
Post by: SVPete on September 01, 2020, 09:20:27 AM
Even among DU-folk, UGP is one of the least qualified and credible to be talking smack about other people's mental state.
Title: Re: Beliefs, by UndergroundPanther...
Post by: Carl on September 01, 2020, 11:15:35 AM
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Just a thought.

You don't have the equipment for such a process.
Title: Re: Beliefs, by UndergroundPanther...
Post by: 67 Rover on September 01, 2020, 01:33:01 PM
You don't have the equipment for such a process.

Have you ever given any thought as to how it keeps the tail in place?  :p
Title: Re: Beliefs, by UndergroundPanther...
Post by: Movie buff- The Sequel on September 03, 2020, 08:49:09 AM
Even among DU-folk, UGP is one of the least qualified and credible to be talking smack about other people's mental state.
Indeed.
A) She has spent time in a mental hospital.
B) She regularly posts some of the most rambling, incoherent crap of any DUmmy, and frequently expresses a desire to commit genocide against all who disagree with her.
C) She is on a whole cornucopia of medications.
D) She believes that she is a sleek, trim male panther trapped in the body of a grotesquely obese female human.
E) She believes that she can communicate telepathically with the ghost of her dead pet rooster Blackie, and that it apparently told her that the Bird Flu outbreak years ago was caused by angry chicken ghosts as a way to spread awareness over how chickens are mistreated in the meat- packing industry.
Title: Re: Beliefs, by UndergroundPanther...
Post by: Kc25 on September 04, 2020, 05:02:39 PM
You don't have the equipment for such a process.

Haha Hi5