Is this kind of language good for the abortion rights side?

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

This is locked but I would love to know which one of us got the stone?

grizgetmystoagie (101 posts)      Thu Jun-04-09 10:44 AM
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Is this kind of language good for the abortion rights side?
 When someone refers to a baby as a "crotch dropping", does that do anything to make the other side take your point seriously? This is the language of a very bitter person.

Or how about when someone uses the words blastocyst (and/or zygote)? What's worse? That the person is just trying to get under someone's skin? That the person finds it necessary to diminish the issue in order to support a particular view? OR...that the person doesn't have any clue as to what those words mean? The zygote exists after fertilization until it reaches the uterus 3-4 days later. The blastocyst exists until it implants in the mother's uterine lining. Why, if someone claims to be so concerned about women's health, would they not know this?

Is THAT what what we're talking about when we're talking about taking the life? Certainly not. Especially when you consider the pictures from abortion procedures: blastocysts and zygotes don't have limbs and beating hearts; they don't have a head to decapitate when you want to abort them.

As for the use of the term "pro-abortion" -- I have seen a lot of dodging and denying surrounding this debate and I think it is commendable that some people have the honesty to say what they really think:

- "So yeah, I'm pro-abortion."

- "I'm not only pro-abortion, I'm sick and tired of hearing how "everyone" wants to reduce the number of abortions. I don't think that should be the goal."

- "I'm pro-abortion too. And I don't care if women use them for birth control, either."

Fascinating and honest look into the abortion rights movement.


 

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[Karin]

This Grizgetmystoagie is trying very hard to have a reasonable discussion.  He's being hit with stupidity and equivocation on all sides. 

You know, this is twice today I read the jazz over there that "every pregnancy is a health and life risk for every woman.  600,000 women die every year from childbirth.  Countless are harmed for the rest of their lives from complications in birth."   

OK, DUnderheads, please don't reproduce.  Any you do produce, please give up for adoption. 

[thundley4]

This Grizgetmystoagie is trying very hard to have a reasonable discussion.  He's being hit with stupidity and equivocation on all sides. 

You know, this is twice today I read the jazz over there that "every pregnancy is a health and life risk for every woman.  600,000 women die every year from childbirth.  Countless are harmed for the rest of their lives from complications in birth."   

OK, DUnderheads, please don't reproduce.  Any you do produce, please give up for adoption. 

The rate is a little over a dozen/100,000 live births in the US. Some say that it is because of maternal obesity and more C-sections being performed.

[The Village Idiot]

they are weirdos

[TheSarge]

When someone refers to a baby as a "crotch dropping", does that do anything to make the other side take your point seriously? This is the language of a very bitter person.

So is the anti-baby crowd's reference to people who have kids as "breeders"

[DumbAss Tanker]

You know, this is twice today I read the jazz over there that "every pregnancy is a health and life risk for every woman.  600,000 women die every year from childbirth.  Countless are harmed for the rest of their lives from complications in birth."   

Life is risky for everyone.  Undue fear of risk and the inability to deal with conditions of uncertainty is a short path to a bias for security over everything else and personal freedom in particular. 

[MrsSmith]

This Grizgetmystoagie is trying very hard to have a reasonable discussion.  He's being hit with stupidity and equivocation on all sides. 

You know, this is twice today I read the jazz over there that "every pregnancy is a health and life risk for every woman.  600,000 women die every year from childbirth.  Countless are harmed for the rest of their lives from complications in birth."   

OK, DUnderheads, please don't reproduce.  Any you do produce, please give up for adoption. 

Cause of Death........Total Number of Deaths
Major Cardiovasular Diseases ...........936,923 
Malignant Neoplasms ......................553,091 
Chronic Lower Resperitory Dis. .........122,009 
Diabetes Mellitus .............................69,301
Influenza and Pneumonia ..................65,313 
Alzheimers  ....................................49,558
Motor Vehicle Accidents  ..................43,354 
Renal Failure ..................................36,471
Septicemia ....................................31,224
Firearms ........................................28,663
{not on the chart}

Childbirth............................................540
http://www.the-eggman.com/writings/death_stats.html


http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr55/nvsr55_19.pdf

In 2004, a total of 540 women were reported to have died of maternal causes.


 


The 600,000 is even overstated for GLOBAL maternal deaths...causes for which include anything from violence to women to ABORTION.   

[AllosaursRus]

What's amazing is that not a single DUmmie will call him/her/it on the numbers! For cryin' out loud, doncha have to back up your numbers?

Oh! That's right! Y'all are horses asses, and you believe anything your brethren spit out is gospel. No wonder not a single sole pays any attention to your garbage!

If you morons would even read what you write and apply just a smidgen of logic, you would pull your collective heads outa yo ass, and make some sense!