Is Islam Truly So Evil??

[Chris_]

Of course an adult is always responsible for the choices they make.  But you can't deny that the outcomes of such, can't be heavily influenced.  When there's an organization systematically, methodically, attempting to influence choices to such a result.

Unlike the influence which certain drugs or certain mental illnesses exert, the influence Islam has is not beyond the control of humans. When people allow religion to influence their actions, they are making a conscious choice to allow religion to influence their actions.

Yes, they share blame.

I disagree. Islam bears no blame whatsoever for what the people who follow it do.

Truely clueless.

He's like that turd in the toilet that pops up after you've flushed the toilet.  It just won't go away.

The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge. - Stephen Hawking

Being ignorant is not so much a shame as being unwilling to learn. - Benjamin Franklin

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.  Winston Churchill

 

[Frank Haider]

Huh?  People riot EXCLUSIVELY because of their belief systems.  They don't just get together and say "hey -- let's have a riot!"  Whether their belief system is The Man is keeping them down or their evil god is being dissed, it is all about beliefs.
Their gutter religion specifically calls for using violence to accomplish the objective of making their pig god the only deity to be worshipped.  Other than Satan worship it is the only major religion on Earth that has such exhortations.  And before you point to the Old Testament, I remind you the stories pointed to with the warfare and the like are historical stories of the struggles of the Jews whose purpose are to provide generational continuity.  That is not the case with islam.

The early stories of the battles related in the Hadith and Quran are related to just that, struggles for existence against a coalition of Jewish, Pagan, and Christian Arab tribes.  Being a Semitic God, it is not surprising that Allah demands what It does.  Judaism in itself also has references to brutality and violence, including their own brand of hating disbelievers (gentiles or goyim), but most do not interpret it as such to always mean hatred of all non-Jews.  Many people, including Muslims, unfortunately lack something called historical context.  If we took Jesus literally we would be whipping people for playing bingo or selling stuff in churches, and other not too nice things.

[MrsSmith]

The early stories of the battles related in the Hadith and Quran are related to just that, struggles for existence against a coalition of Jewish, Pagan, and Christian Arab tribes.  Being a Semitic God, it is not surprising that Allah demands what It does.  Judaism in itself also has references to brutality and violence, including their own brand of hating disbelievers (gentiles or goyim), but most do not interpret it as such to always mean hatred of all non-Jews.  Many people, including Muslims, unfortunately lack something called historical context.  If we took Jesus literally we would be whipping people for playing bingo or selling stuff in churches, and other not too nice things.

May I suggest a remedial course in the New Testament?  You seem to have missed about 99.99% of it.  Extreme ignorance of any subject, while fully expected from DUmmies, is not supported on conservative boards.

[CG6468]

A remedial course in Life On This Earth would also be appropriate.

[Doc]

The early stories of the battles related in the Hadith and Quran are related to just that, struggles for existence against a coalition of Jewish, Pagan, and Christian Arab tribes.  Being a Semitic God, it is not surprising that Allah demands what It does.  Judaism in itself also has references to brutality and violence, including their own brand of hating disbelievers (gentiles or goyim), but most do not interpret it as such to always mean hatred of all non-Jews.  Many people, including Muslims, unfortunately lack something called historical context.  If we took Jesus literally we would be whipping people for playing bingo or selling stuff in churches, and other not too nice things.

MOO-hammed and his merry gang running around robbing, kidnapping, raping and beheading people was no excuse for the Jewish, pagan and Christian Arabs to resent them, right?

[Frank Haider]

I doubt that a remedial course on "Life on Earth" is necessary because we do not really care who we offend by questioning common opinions.

May I suggest a remedial course in the New Testament?  You seem to have missed about 99.99% of it.  Extreme ignorance of any subject, while fully expected from DUmmies, is not supported on conservative boards.

I do not envision the Son of God in such a meek pacifistic light.  There is a prelude to the carnage that he is going to deliver to the Satanic hordes during the end of days, and you see references to it in Matthew and in his life when he warns people.  Jesus Christ is not violent in the sense that we think of today, but he did not take blasphemy or offending God The Father lightly.

Not all Christians reject The Old Testament, and not all Christians see Jesus and The Apostles in the same light.

MOO-hammed and his merry gang running around robbing, kidnapping, raping and beheading people was no excuse for the Jewish, pagan and Christian Arabs to resent them, right?

All historical sources suggest that the Quraish initiated hostilities which led to the migration.  The legacy of violent prophets--or at least those who fight hard in self-defense like some Indian figures--is common with the exception of Jesus.  Again, I mentioned the words historical context, which invokes situations, politics, and other realities of the time which idiots both Muslim and non-Muslim do not understand.

[CG6468]

Do things that occurred "at the time" justify muzzie terrorism today?

[RightCoast]

Do things that occurred "at the time" justify muzzie terrorism today?

to the moose-limbs it does

[CG6468]

to the moose-limbs it does

I agree. But I want an answer from Frank Haider.

[RightCoast]

I agree. But I want an answer from Frank Haider.

Frank is over at DU asking for help

[vesta111]

I doubt that a remedial course on "Life on Earth" is necessary because we do not really care who we offend by questioning common opinions.

I do not envision the Son of God in such a meek pacifistic light.  There is a prelude to the carnage that he is going to deliver to the Satanic hordes during the end of days, and you see references to it in Matthew and in his life when he warns people.  Jesus Christ is not violent in the sense that we think of today, but he did not take blasphemy or offending God The Father lightly.

Not all Christians reject The Old Testament, and not all Christians see Jesus and The Apostles in the same light.

All historical sources suggest that the Quraish initiated hostilities which led to the migration.  The legacy of violent prophets--or at least those who fight hard in self-defense like some Indian figures--is common with the exception of Jesus.  Again, I mentioned the words historical context, which invokes situations, politics, and other realities of the time which idiots both Muslim and non-Muslim do not understand.

Give me a break, the Spanish Christians came to Americas and with faith not unlike the Muslims  felt thy were doing the  Bidding of God and were re-payed with the Gold, slaves and decimated everything that did not follow the Christian belief.

Not so much far back, check out what the Christion missionary's did to destroy that culture and wipe out the census on the number of DNA full blood Hawaiians-- --

It has been a long time since the Christians were the under dog.   We Christians have ruled the world for so long that the idea of a challenge by any other faith to invade us is to be laughed at.  

Ancient war tactic for War, first invade then distroy the old gods.   Insert the new Gods and the next generation will be loyal.

    

[CG6468]

Frank is over at DU asking for help

  

[Frank Haider]

Do things that occurred "at the time" justify muzzie terrorism today?

No.

Frank is over at DU asking for help

Of course not.  If you read our blog, you know that we hate liberals and Obama.  We only want to court conservatives because liberalism is a symptom of decay.

Vesta, regardless of the outcome, there was nothing good left of the Aztec and other Mexican civilizations by that point.  They had degenerated into human sacrificing superstition.  It was their time to go into history; God just used the Spanish to do it.  We also know that the peoples of the Pacific were prone to cannibalism and other degenerate rites like the Maori, but I am not sure about the Hawaiian native religion.

[CG6468]

...and other realities of the time which idiots both Muslim and non-Muslim do not understand.

To what time do you refer?

[Frank Haider]

To what time do you refer?

Fanatics think time stood still.

[CG6468]

Fanatics think time stood still.

What the hell does that mean? You said:

...and other realities of the time which idiots both Muslim and non-Muslim do not understand.

So I repeat: To what time period to you refer? Or are you calling people who don't agree with muzzies idiots? Please be specific.

[Frank Haider]

What the hell does that mean? You said:

So I repeat: To what time period to you refer? Or are you calling people who don't agree with muzzies idiots? Please be specific.

I called Muslims who do not understand what happened at the time in its context and how the world is not stuck in 600s idiots.  I also question non-Muslims who either say Islam is a religion of peace, or who say Islam is Satanic.  Abrahamic religion in general is not about "peace and love" except for perhaps a form of inner stillness and loving God.  The concepts are much different than modern peace and love trademarked by hippies.

[PatrickMahoney]

Islam is the worst faith on the planet.  The Muslims are disgustingly vile creatures who know nothing but violence because that is what their religion teaches them.

Anyone who says otherwise is either a useful idiot, mentally challenged, or possibly a muzzie himself.  Not that the three are mutually exclusive.

[RightCoast]

Islam is the worst faith on the planet.  The Muslims are disgustingly vile creatures who know nothing but violence because that is what their religion teaches them.

Anyone who says otherwise is either a useful idiot, mentally challenged, or possibly a muzzie himself.  Not that the three are mutually exclusive.

pretty well put, overall.

[Mr Mannn]

May I suggest a remedial course in the New Testament?  You seem to have missed about 99.99% of it.  Extreme ignorance of any subject, while fully expected from DUmmies, is not supported on conservative boards.

Frank Hater is from a site that tries to disguise racist hate as news. He will ignore anything in the Bible that doesn't support his hate filled Nazi views.

[Mr Mannn]

Frank is over at DU asking for help

Correction: Frank is over at Stormfront asking for help.

[PatrickMahoney]

Frank Hater is from a site that tries to disguise racist hate as news. He will ignore anything in the Bible that doesn't support his hate filled Nazi views.

50 bucks says that he's "xtian identity" and has never read the bible - although for some strange reason the KKK and far right is willing to ally with the muzzy jihadies.  They call themselves the "Third Positionists":

The Extreme Right in the U.S. includes White Supremacists, militant antisemites, neofascists, neonazis and an assortment of hate groups. Activists in the Extreme Right have been involved in numerous violent incidents over the last 30 years; however, most have involved guns or bombs.  The U.S. Extreme Right shares three ideological affinities with some Islamic clerical fascist movements such as the Taliban and the al Qaeda networks:

• A hatred of Jews who are seen in the traditional antisemitic caricature of running the world through secret conspiracies.
• A hatred of the U.S. government, seen as not just a global bully but also controlled by Jews. U.S. neonazis sometimes refer the administration in Washington, D.C. as the Zionist Occupational Government--ZOG.
• A desire to overthrow existing governments and replace then with monocultural nation states built around the idea of supremacist racial nationalism or supremacist religious nationalism or both mixed together. This ethnonationalist philosophy is sometimes called the "Third Position."

[Mr Mannn]

He claims to be conservative, but antisemitism seems to emanate more on the main stream left now. I guess that makes hate an equal opportunity employer.

He did warn us that he would anger a lot of us. Like any true troll the first place he was drawn was the religion/faith forum. Best place to start a fight.

When a racist like the gang from Frank's site start supporting islam...its not because they like islam. They are just supporting the only people who are openly advocating hate-and getting away with it.

[CG6468]

He claims to be conservative, but antisemitism seems to emanate more on the main stream left now. I guess that makes hate an equal opportunity employer.

He did warn us that he would anger a lot of us. Like any true troll the first place he was drawn was the religion/faith forum. Best place to start a fight.

When a racist like the gang from Frank's site start supporting islam...its not because they like islam. They are just supporting the only people who are openly advocating hate-and getting away with it.

Looks like it's another one to place in the IGNORE category.

[Mr Mannn]

Looks like it's another one to place in the IGNORE category.

No. No. No.
He needs to be called out wherever he posts. Ignoring him just lets him spread racist filth on our good board.