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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on September 07, 2019, 02:07:34 PM
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An older one I missed, mostly because they flushed it down to the 'hidden DU' crazy post section... From Sept 1st.. on Sept 1st,,,
struggle4progress (103,565 posts) Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:41 PM
https://www.democraticunderground.com/113512253
Why hasn't the Odessa/Midlands shooter's identity been released?
Could the real shooter have been a rightwing operative acting on instructions from higher up?
Has the real shooter been allowed to escape?
Did the police kill an innocent bystander as part of a larger cover-up?
"Just shut up and trust us!" is the best fuel for paranoid conspiracy theories!
:popcorn:
Crafty Girl (18 posts)
1. I don't think there is a CT here
Since Columbine there has been an effort to withhold the fame that so many of these sickos seem to want. The effort should be on remembering the victims, not their killers.
struggle4progress (103,565 posts)
6. There has been an effort to encourage the press not to give the shooter too much notoriety
That's a sensible PoV
But it's not the same as officials withholding the name of someone shot by the police
struggle4progress (103,565 posts)
8. These have been real issues ever since someone burned the Ephesian Temple of Artemis
in 356BC, with the hope of being remembered forever because of that deed
But there are multiple other public-good considerations here
Star Member bronxiteforever (5,107 posts)
4. If he had priors cases were those handled correctly? Abbott was Attorney General.
Did Abbott’s office handle the case, would the Governor try to hide that fact?
There are accountability questions relating to the criminal justice system such as, did anyone warn police about the shooter prior to the incident?
Was the shooter a prior police informant? Was he prematurely let out on parole/probation? Were there deals given to him that should be subject to public scrutiny.
Did a judge make a horrible decision on a prior case? Texas elects Judges and voters would have a right to know this.
https://www.tpr.org/post/why-do-we-elect-judges-texas
All these questions can be answered with a simple disclosure.
Star Member kimbutgar (11,134 posts)
9. I've been wondering the same thing
I bet he is a big cult 45 MF45 supporter. If he was a minority the name and picture would have have already been released. Even the Daily Guardian which gets news first is mum on the shooters identity. Kind of suspicious.
struggle4progress (103,565 posts)
10. "Did the shooter work for the Russians? Or did he work for the White House?"
Star Member Ptah (29,702 posts) Sun Sep 1, 2019, 03:37 PM
12. Odessa Shooting Suspect named
Seth Ator has been identified as the accused gunman who was shot and killed by police after a rampage in Odessa and Midland, Texas, according to the Associated Press. Police said the shooter was taken down by officers at the Cinergy movie complex in Odessa. The incident began around 3:15 p.m. local time on Saturday, August 31, as an attempted traffic stop along Interstate 20.
2 hours later...
struggle4progress (103,565 posts)
13. ...
Star Member Ptah (29,702 posts)
14. What, you have given up on your wild, ignorant, baseless fiction?
:lmao:
struggle4progress (103,565 posts)
15. A few facts here and there can have that effect
Star Member Ptah (29,702 posts)
17. What facts led to this speculation?
"Did the shooter work for the Russians? Or did he work for the White House?"
Has the real shooter been allowed to escape?
Did the police kill an innocent bystander as part of a larger cover-up?
struggle4progress (103,565 posts)
18. What would explain a police refusal to tell you who they'd shot?
"We shot a suspect but we won't tell you who it was"
I suggest people cultivate a healthy paranoia
If we're really OK with "We shot a suspect but we won't tell you who it was" then someday soon we'll hear "We imprisoned 70 threats to public safety but we won't tell you who they are"
Star Member Ptah (29,702 posts)
21. He said he was not going to name the suspect, that the suspect's name would be released later.
struggle4progress (103,565 posts)
22. It wasn't clear to me, but the discussion is moot now
Star Member Ptah (29,702 posts)
23. Until the next time you get paranoid.
struggle4progress (103,565 posts)
24. I will strongly encourage everyone to cultivate a healthy paranoia
by which I mean --- a paranoia that you can turn on and off as needed
Do you know of any people who might deliberately endanger others for political gain? If so, you might want to cultivate an on-demand ability to think in a paranoid manner
****ing lunatic.
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Do you know of any people who might deliberately endanger others for political gain?
YES, the Steve Scalise (R-La.) shooter.
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Struggle for progress is struggling to get any neurons firing. :mental:
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So basically; Democrat administration paranoia off. Republican administration paranoia on ... HIGH ALERT!!!!!
God they’re stupid.
KC
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StruggleMoron may have inadvertently stumbled on a great descriptor for the DUmp:
Cultivating unhinged and insane paranoia since 2000.
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IIRC, the shooter was a registered Democratic Socialist who had a “Bernie 2020” sticker on his truck.
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struggle4progress (103,565 posts) Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:41 PM
https://www.democraticunderground.com/113512253
Why hasn't the Odessa/Midlands shooter's identity been released?
Could the real shooter have been a rightwing operative acting on instructions from higher up?
I have to say that it's somewhat of a relief to see that leaping to CTs is not a partisan thing. Because of where I hang out - not Prog/Lib discussion sites - I mainly see conservatives who fantasize minor things like this grand CTs. And when reality shoots down their CT either fall into the proverbial Egyptian River or move on to their next CT.
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struggle4progress (103,565 posts)
24. I will strongly encourage everyone to cultivate a healthy paranoia
by which I mean --- a paranoia that you can turn on and off as needed
Do you know of any people who might deliberately endanger others for political gain? If so, you might want to cultivate an on-demand ability to think in a paranoid manner
He would not be so paranoid if he would just lay off the :stoner: once in a while.
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Since Columbine there has been an effort to withhold the fame that so many of these sickos seem to want. The effort should be on remembering the victims, not their killers.
Wait, I thought guns just up and killed people?