I am warming up to a civil split in our country.

[dutch508]

Old and In the Way (37,129 posts)

I am warming up to a civil split in our country.

Lets put it to referndum. I am thiking a geogrsphic divide, based on confederate lines would be reasonable....but maybe we should just split on red/blue results over the last 4 elections. Think of the benefits.

1 -less tax dollars to the red states.
2- no one will care about your sexuality (in the blue states)
3 -we can get our kids educated properly without idiots in small population southern states telling us what God thinks.
4-we wont freak out in the Northern Stztes if you look different than us.
5- we will be allowed to let our visions happen, both North and South. Let social evolution dictate.

Sounds good to me. Give this country 6 months to relocate (Craigs List) and we are good to go. Lets do this bloodless, social experiment Begin!

States? How about counties walled off into blue 'city' states.

Xipe Totec (33,215 posts)
1. Who gets to keep the nukes? nt

You guys don't like them so we'll keep them. You don't like the military so we'll keep those too. And the police.

villager (22,097 posts)
7. The Empire will start falling apart by mid-century anyway, due to the pressures of climate change, the inability to keep funding global overreach, etc. It will be interesting, to say the least, to see what smaller polities develop....

 

jtuck004 (10,673 posts)
11. Why? They don't have to give a thing, just keep taking. You and everyone on your side can just die. And it can keep going until you do, or until they all do. Frankly, they see either victory for them or death for everyone as a very workable solution. That is your opponent. They don't really want a split - they want a place to gather and then attack. See "Hitler" and/or "Mussolini" in the wiki pages for material which might be relevant.

WTF did this retard try to say?

appalachiablue (1,781 posts)
22. Some people would need to relocate over time to get what they want probably. Unpleasant but for a better life worth it, it certainly has happened many times before. I would do it. A year or so ago an article, NYT I think covered blue state people moving to red states ie- NE folks to FL, VA, some upper Midwesterners to TX and people from CA to Nevada. Most of it was for employment. Not an in depth article but the implication was that this would bring Dem. voters into those areas. I've also heard a few media insiders mention this.

Yet as messed up as the US is lately, and as matters are becoming more extreme I wonder how much of an impact this trend will have on changing voting patterns. The pols stats mgrs. know what's going on for sure.

 

brooklynite (19,980 posts)
21. Are you aware that marriage equality doesn't exist in several Blue (Presidential) States?

Ohio and Michigan come to mind.

napi21 (40,038 posts)
26. NO! NO! NO!

I'm a Yankee (from Pa.) transplant living now in Ga. I DETEST the righties who live here, and they hate me too, and I sure DON'T want to LIVE in a confederacy! Yes, I know I could move, but we're retired now and our son & grandkids lkive here in Ga, so we don't want to leave them. Plus, our house is paid off and we qualify for low real estate taxes. If we moved back to the north, we wouldn't be able to afford to buy a house because the market is much higher there, and the taxes are a lot higher too.

I understand why you want to just let them go back to their own "southern ways", but I can't let you do that to ME!

 

When you get to the heart of any matter it is always able MEMEMEMEMEMEME! to teh DUmpmonkiez.

[Carl]

I intend to move south as soon as I can get the place sold,although that is nearly impossible in a blue state hell.

The complex industrial reasons that the south could never had won the Civil war are long gone but the agrarian realities of the country still exist and being unable to exploit the food production that the north still needs to do would be their undoing.

[Big Dog]

'Civil split' by referendum?

DUmmy tries to make up the rules as he goes along.

Any secession would a bloody affair, unless the DUmmies seceded en masse by declaring Eniwetok to be Skins' Island and trying to float Mo the Chicken Witch's old Suburban across the sea to their new socialist Utopia.

I'd pay a dollar to see that!

[BlueStateSaint]

Don't think that just because a county is shown this way, that all of its' inhabitants think that way.  I live in a town in my county that is much different than what the county is listed as above.

[DumbAss Tanker]

napi21 (40,038 posts)
26. NO! NO! NO!
...If we moved back to the north, we wouldn't be able to afford to buy a house because the market is much higher there, and the taxes are a lot higher too.

Gee, I wonder why THAT is.

 

[JohnnyReb]

How you going to keep them down on the farm after they've seen Detroit. 

[SVPete]

As dutch's map suggests, while CA is a "blue" state, many counties are "red", especially counties that produce the food the "blue" counties - in and out of CA - need. The "blue" counties should not be allowed to exploit the "red" counties' productivity.

[GOBUCKS]

They don't have to give a thing, just keep taking. You and everyone on your side can just die. And it can keep going until you do, or until they all do.

Frankly, they see either victory for them or death for everyone as a very workable solution.

That is your opponent. They don't really want a split - they want a place to gather and then attack.

This DUmmy accidentally gives a perfect description of the muzzies.

[I_B_Perky]

A dummy stumbles on to the truth:

appalachiablue (1,781 posts)
22. Some people would need to relocate over time to get what they want probably. Unpleasant but for a better life worth it, it certainly has happened many times before. I would do it. A year or so ago an article, NYT I think covered blue state people moving to red states ie- NE folks to FL, VA, some upper Midwesterners to TX and people from CA to Nevada. Most of it was for employment. Not an in depth article but the implication was that this would bring Dem. voters into those areas. I've also heard a few media insiders mention this.

The problem with these transplants is they move from the liberal hellhole they created to a nice conservative state, then proceed to vote in their new location for the same type of politicians that made their original location a hellhole to start with!!!

Personally I would not mind a civil split.  As long as the conservative states build a wall and not let any of the liberals in... and not bail them out when they get invaded or implode.

[thundley4]

A dummy stumbles on to the truth:

The problem with these transplants is they move from the liberal hellhole they created to a nice conservative state, then proceed to vote in their new location for the same type of politicians that made their original location a hellhole to start with!!!

Personally I would not mind a civil split.  As long as the conservative states build a wall and not let any of the liberals in... and not bail them out when they get invaded or implode.

Conservative states need to pass new residency requirements for voting in local and state elections, say 20 years or so.  They couldn't do it for the federal ones, though.

[I_B_Perky]

Conservative states need to pass new residency requirements for voting in local and state elections, say 20 years or so.  They couldn't do it for the federal ones, though.

Except the federal government would jump all over that. I'm beginning to think the good ole USA is doomed.  Might as well split it up nicely and go our separate ways now while we got the chance.  At least that way in 50 years the conservative states could take over the liberal ones with out shedding a drop of blood after all the libs starve to death.   

[JohnnyReb]

See those blue counties in S.C.? Ride through a town in one of them on Saturday afternoon and you will see why they're blue.

[GOBUCKS]

See those blue counties in S.C.? Ride through a town in one of them on Saturday afternoon and you will see why they're blue.

It's the same in any blue county.

Yankee transplants may have fouled up Rocky Mountain states and Florida, but here in red state hell that's not the case.

When we first came here, long ago, it was a blue-purple state. Now it's blood red, except for a couple of urban hellholes that were always democrat.

When the democrats tried to start a state income tax, there was a near riot at the capitol building until they backed off.

None of the pro-tax people are still in office.

Except for California, New York City, and Massholes, people who work aren't democrat.

[jukin]

Be careful what you wish for DUchebags. You just might get it.

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

The DUmmies pretty regularly make idiotic threads like that, about how they (Supposed champions of tolerance) so thoroughly hate sharing a country with people who disagree with them that they want to make a whole separate country. Here are a few of the other things that would almost certainly happen in their "Bluetopia," should it ever come to pass:
1. Age of Consent laws will be completely abolished, on the grounds that "Love is love, discriminating against one form of love in favor of another is bigoted."
2. Child pornography will be deemed a respected expression of free speech and be fully legalized, while at the same time quoting the Bible in any public setting (Including at a worship service) will become an arrestable offense. In fact, in general, First Amendment rights will only apply to those who agree with all forms of Far Left ideology.
3. Marijuana, cocaine, crystal meth, PCP, heroin, and ecstasy will all be fully legalized. At the same time, all products containing tobacco, meat, dairy, eggs, sugar, salt, or fat will be completely outlawed.
4. At least 20% of "Bluetopia"'s population will be unemployed, as their government's ultra- overregulation of industry causes most if not all of the large companies within their borders to either go out of business or relocate elsewhere, and the resulting economic vacuum from that then causes most of their small businesses to also go bankrupt.
5. They will completely neuter their police forces, causing violent crime and gang activity to skyrocket.
6. The barrage of free benefits they will be passing out to everyone within their borders will cause the entire nation of "Bluetopia" to go bankrupt in no more than two years.
7. Gays will be given every kind of "Right" and privilege imaginable, including getting back the right to donate blood. This, however, will backfire on them, as less than two years after this is passed, at least 25% of "Bluetopia"'s population will be HIV- positive.

[98ZJUSMC]

jtuck004 (10,673 posts)
11. Why? They don't have to give a thing, just keep taking. You and everyone on your side can just die. And it can keep going until you do, or until they all do. Frankly, they see either victory for them or death for everyone as a very workable solution. That is your opponent. They don't really want a split - they want a place to gather and then attack. See "Hitler" and/or "Mussolini" in the wiki pages for material which might be relevant.

Old and In the Way (37,129 posts)

I am warming up to a civil split in our country.

Lets put it to referndum. I am thiking a geogrsphic divide, based on confederate lines would be reasonable....but maybe we should just split on red/blue results over the last 4 elections. Think of the benefits.

1 -less tax dollars to the red states.
2- no one will care about your sexuality (in the blue states)
3 -we can get our kids educated properly without idiots in small population southern states telling us what God thinks.
4-we wont freak out in the Northern Stztes if you look different than us.
5- we will be allowed to let our visions happen, both North and South. Let social evolution dictate.

Sounds good to me. Give this country 6 months to relocate (Craigs List) and we are good to go. Lets do this bloodless, social experiment Begin!

It wouldn't be anything like your little fantasy, hippie.

The DUmmies pretty regularly make idiotic threads like that, about how they (Supposed champions of tolerance) so thoroughly hate sharing a country with people who disagree with them that they want to make a whole separate country. Here are a few of the other things that would almost certainly happen in their "Bluetopia," should it ever come to pass:
1. Age of Consent laws will be completely abolished, on the grounds that "Love is love, discriminating against one form of love in favor of another is bigoted."
2. Child pornography will be deemed a respected expression of free speech and be fully legalized, while at the same time quoting the Bible in any public setting (Including at a worship service) will become an arrestable offense. In fact, in general, First Amendment rights will only apply to those who agree with all forms of Far Left ideology.
3. Marijuana, cocaine, crystal meth, PCP, heroin, and ecstasy will all be fully legalized. At the same time, all products containing tobacco, meat, dairy, eggs, sugar, salt, or fat will be completely outlawed.
4. At least 20% of "Bluetopia"'s population will be unemployed, as their government's ultra- overregulation of industry causes most if not all of the large companies within their borders to either go out of business or relocate elsewhere, and the resulting economic vacuum from that then causes most of their small businesses to also go bankrupt.
5. They will completely neuter their police forces, causing violent crime and gang activity to skyrocket.
6. The barrage of free benefits they will be passing out to everyone within their borders will cause the entire nation of "Bluetopia" to go bankrupt in no more than two years.
7. Gays will be given every kind of "Right" and privilege imaginable, including getting back the right to donate blood. This, however, will backfire on them, as less than two years after this is passed, at least 25% of "Bluetopia"'s population will be HIV- positive.

That's more like it and I will be going long on:

[98ZJUSMC]

How you going to keep them down on the farm after they've seen Detroit. 

[obumazombie]

I never though I would say this but...thank God for Detroit.

[Skul]

That warming is from a strong urine stream.
They'd their knickers if it ever happened.

[HawkHogan]

A dummy stumbles on to the truth:

The problem with these transplants is they move from the liberal hellhole they created to a nice conservative state, then proceed to vote in their new location for the same type of politicians that made their original location a hellhole to start with!!!

Personally I would not mind a civil split.  As long as the conservative states build a wall and not let any of the liberals in... and not bail them out when they get invaded or implode.

Exactly.  They flee their liberal cesspools, and then proceed to ruin their new states with the same bs policies from their old homes.