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Re: Webster Green and basic science
« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2010, 05:33:40 PM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on June 04, 2010, 10:55:26 AM
The pressure is such at a mile down that water will never freeze, salted or fresh, don't matter!

Agreed, and it never will - because it can't. Water is peculiar when it comes to changing states from liquid to solid - it expands. If there is enough pressure to keep the water from expanding, it will not freeze under any circumstance. -- well, until you get to absolute zero.. but thats another story.
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Re: Webster Green and basic science
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2010, 06:46:56 AM »
Quote from: miskie on June 04, 2010, 05:33:40 PM
Agreed, and it never will - because it can't. Water is peculiar when it comes to changing states from liquid to solid - it expands. If there is enough pressure to keep the water from expanding, it will not freeze under any circumstance. -- well, until you get to absolute zero.. but thats another story.

I thought that at absolute zero atoms fall apart and turns to a very fine dust?

....but then, when I was taught that, they were saying we were going into another ice age and we were all going to freeze to death....are we there yet?....are we there yet....are we there yet.
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Re: Webster Green and basic science
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2010, 10:02:55 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on June 05, 2010, 06:46:56 AM
I thought that at absolute zero atoms fall apart and turns to a very fine dust?

....but then, when I was taught that, they were saying we were going into another ice age and we were all going to freeze to death....are we there yet?....are we there yet....are we there yet.

We'll never really know, it's not possible to actually get there, anytime before the final heat death of the entire universe, anyway.
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Re: Webster Green and basic science
« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2010, 11:31:47 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on June 05, 2010, 06:46:56 AM
I thought that at absolute zero atoms fall apart and turns to a very fine dust?

....but then, when I was taught that, they were saying we were going into another ice age and we were all going to freeze to death....are we there yet?....are we there yet....are we there yet.

Actually, absolute zero is the temperature at which all atomic and subatomic motion ceases.......theoretically at least, instead of collapsing into dust (even dust being matter) , matter at that temperature would (also theoretically) be reabsorbed by the "quantum foam", i.e., residue left over from the interdimensional cataclysm of the formation of the universe.

To an observer, it would simply vanish.......

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Re: Webster Green and basic science
« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2010, 02:44:05 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on June 05, 2010, 06:46:56 AM
I thought that at absolute zero atoms fall apart and turns to a very fine dust?

....but then, when I was taught that, they were saying we were going into another ice age and we were all going to freeze to death....are we there yet?....are we there yet....are we there yet.

TVDOC has what is expected to be the right answer to this. Granted, we will never know, as we would cease to be at absolute zero with everything else, so its more of a thought experiment than anything.
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Re: Webster Green and basic science
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2010, 04:56:38 AM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on June 04, 2010, 10:55:26 AM
The pressure is such at a mile down that water will never freeze, salted or fresh, don't matter!

Actually, it will, it's just that the temperature at that depth stays pretty constant (around 35-38 degrees F).

Funny the things you'll find out when you work with the DSRV boys.
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