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Title: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Mr Mannn on February 02, 2011, 05:02:06 PM
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DU advocates violence...again.
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Mike 03  (1000+ posts)        Wed Feb-02-11 03:37 PM
Original message
Please Educate me on the Use of Petrol Bombs
    Edited on Wed Feb-02-11 03:38 PM by Mike 03
I've been watching Al Jazeera (which deserves an award for this coverage, BTW) for almost twelve hours, and there is something I wish you all would address: It has to do with the use of the Molotov Cocktails.

If I were truly enraged with my opposition (and I have never been angry enough to use violence against another person, but I have tried to imagine what that might feel like), to the degree where I would throw a petrol bomb, I would throw it at people. One thing I have noticed is that these "bombs" are being thrown meters away from where people are. They are tossing them onto vacant concrete.

My question: Is this because it is hard to direct them? Could it be because the "Pro-Mubarak" protesters are doing this for the money and don't actually want to hurt anybody?

I hope it is the latter. I'm wondering if maybe this entire "We Love Mubarak" movement is just a scam, and they are being paid to engage in violence that even they cannot engage seriously.

But this is very fluid, and that is just a theory.

Don't get me wrong: this is a deadly serious situation. But there is something about the Pro Mubarak group that just doesn't seem authentic.
And now for the voices of experience...
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kenny blankenship  (1000+ posts)        
2. You don't want to throw one overhand
    or else the gas might spill out and light you up like a torch. Makes aiming difficult obviously and limits how far you can throw it.
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slackmaster  (1000+ posts)           
5. Once you light the wick, the device becomes intensely frightening and heats up quickly
    It's not something you want to hold onto for very long. You just want to get rid of it.

The most effective use IMO is to drop them onto your target from a high location.



Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: thundley4 on February 02, 2011, 05:06:43 PM
As a kid we played with them down near an abandoned gravel pit.  We made them out the old small 10 ounce pop bottles.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: DefiantSix on February 02, 2011, 05:11:21 PM
As a kid we played with them down near an abandoned gravel pit.  We made them out the old small 10 ounce pop bottles.

Shhhh!!! Saying shit like that on the innerwebz will get you put on a terrorist watch list (again)  :thatsright:
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Airwolf on February 02, 2011, 05:15:19 PM
Rewmind me again who is it thats inciting violence online with this stuff? It's not us and I'm betting Der Skimmer needs to start deleting threads before he gets another visit.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Randy on February 02, 2011, 05:18:46 PM
Just as a wild thought here, maybe they aren't hitting anyone because the people getting thrown at are smart enough to stay out of range???

I know this might be something of a hard concept to grasp DUmmie but people actually try to avoid bursting into flames. It's like its some sort of weird natural defense or something.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: BEG on February 02, 2011, 05:27:04 PM
Petrol?  Meters?  Is this guy from the US or is he just trying to sound European?
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: DefiantSix on February 02, 2011, 05:29:21 PM
Petrol?  Meters?  Is this guy from the US or is he just trying to sound European?

Probably just aping what he heard the reporter on al Jazeera saying.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 02, 2011, 05:32:16 PM
Glass breaks better on concrete than on DUmb heads.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: dutch508 on February 02, 2011, 05:33:34 PM
When a bottle hits a person it doesn't break. The point is to get the bottle to break and spread the flammable material over a wide eara, thus you throw it in front of the target. In the case of a vehicle (being hard) just throw it at the DUmpmonkiez Prius.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: GOBUCKS on February 02, 2011, 05:34:11 PM
Petrol?  Meters?  Is this guy from the US or is he just trying to sound European?
Well, he sure doesn't want to sound like one of know-it-all nadin's Murikans.
Actually, this is one of the reasons we could never have this kind of uprising. If they tried using Molotov cocktails, the DUmbasses would very shortly turn themselves into human torches, and their uprising would be over.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Rebel on February 02, 2011, 05:40:01 PM
This is why the DUmpmonkies should never want a revolution. They know about Molotov cocktails. I know how to make improvized grenades with something as abundant as triple FFFG gunpowder, a tap, and some fuse.  :evil:
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: thundley4 on February 02, 2011, 05:44:07 PM
Well, he sure doesn't want to sound like one of know-it-all nadin's Murikans.
Actually, this is one of the reasons we could never have this kind of uprising. If they tried using Molotov cocktails, the DUmbasses would very shortly turn themselves into human torches, and their uprising would be over.

(http://www.thinkandask.com/images/ablaze.jpg)
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: DefiantSix on February 02, 2011, 05:54:24 PM
(http://www.thinkandask.com/images/ablaze.jpg)

C'mon dude; rule is that you can't post pics of the DUmbshits.  :rulez:
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: zeitgeist on February 02, 2011, 06:01:17 PM
Rewmind me again who is it thats inciting violence online with this stuff? It's not us and I'm betting Der Skimmer needs to start deleting threads before he gets another visit.

Not to worry, I think Agent Mike is a mod now.  Great way to keep an eye on the malcontents but could be entrapment. :whistling:

Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Mike220 on February 02, 2011, 06:01:54 PM
(http://www.thinkandask.com/images/ablaze.jpg)

Build a man a fire and keep him warm for a day. Set a man on fire and keep him warm for the rest of his life.  :-)
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: jukin on February 02, 2011, 06:03:47 PM
As a kid we played with them down near an abandoned gravel pit.  We made them out the old small 10 ounce pop bottles.

I pity the kids of today.  The statist liberals have killed a fun childhood. Half of the stuff we regularly did would send us to prison now. I've carried a pocket knife since I was seven and entrusted with this violent weapon of white oppression.  That right there would send a high school senior to jail now.

Could you imagine throwing a cocktail at one of the whales that inhabit the island.  Man it would hit with an enormous shock wave of blubber, sink in, then come back at you hard and fast.  Not a good idea, I'll go with crete or the tops of tanks.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Ballygrl on February 02, 2011, 06:10:59 PM
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I'm wondering if maybe this entire "We Love Mubarak" movement is just a scam, and they are being paid to engage in violence that even they cannot engage seriously.

Someone called into Savage's show and said the anti-Mubarak protesters are being paid by Iran.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Chris_ on February 02, 2011, 06:14:25 PM
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Mike 03  (1000+ posts)        Wed Feb-02-11 03:37 PM
Original message
Please Educate me
:lmao:  You're in the wrong place if that's what you're looking for.

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I have never been angry enough to use violence against another person, but I have tried to imagine what that might feel like
There's not a big enough :bs: flag to throw on that one.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: true_blood on February 02, 2011, 07:14:59 PM
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kenny blankenship  (1000+ posts)       
2. You don't want to throw one overhand or else the gas might spill out and light you up like a torch. Makes aiming difficult obviously and limits how far you can throw it.
Take it from kenny. He's got the experience, ya know.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Odin's Hand on February 02, 2011, 07:17:53 PM
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Countdown_3_2_1 (373 posts)      Wed Feb-02-11 05:34 PM
Response to Original message
7. Waitaminute. You would throw a petrol bomb at PEOPLE?
 Edited on Wed Feb-02-11 05:40 PM by Countdown_3_2_1
Do we really need a "How to kill with petrol Bomb guide" here at DU?

For all the grief we gave repukes over the Arizona assassin, now you go and post this?!!
Thanks for making DU look good.

UnRec

Hey! It just happens to be one of the unchanging symbols of the Marxist revolution, TYVM.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: true_blood on February 02, 2011, 07:20:21 PM
Me thinks this thread will get locked and "magically" disappear from the DUmp. :hyper:
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: GOBUCKS on February 02, 2011, 07:51:54 PM
(http://www.thinkandask.com/images/ablaze.jpg)

Let's hope the DUmmies take note of this photo. Should you ever find yourself ablaze, DUmmies, it's very important that you immediately take off running as fast as you possibly can. With enough speed, the wind you generate will extinguish the flames.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: PatriotGame on February 03, 2011, 04:35:48 AM
Glass breaks better on concrete than on DUmb heads.
What??!!!

There's a difference??
Concrete or a DUmmy head??

Back to sKKKool I go...
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on February 03, 2011, 09:04:19 AM
Me thinks this thread will get locked and "magically" disappear from the DUmp. :hyper:

Shockingly enough, still there.  No responses recently however.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Texacon on February 03, 2011, 11:07:22 AM
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I've been watching Al Jazeera (which deserves an award for this coverage, BTW) for almost twelve hours, and there is something I wish you all would address: It has to do with the use of the Molotov Cocktails.


Proof yet again that DUmors do not work.

Who has this kind of time on their hands?

KC
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: dandi on February 03, 2011, 11:16:15 AM
I pity the kids of today.  The statist liberals have killed a fun childhood. Half of the stuff we regularly did would send us to prison now. I've carried a pocket knife since I was seven and entrusted with this violent weapon of white oppression.  That right there would send a high school senior to jail now.

Could you imagine throwing a cocktail at one of the whales that inhabit the island.  Man it would hit with an enormous shock wave of blubber, sink in, then come back at you hard and fast.  Not a good idea, I'll go with crete or the tops of tanks.

We used to make our own gunpowder out of crushed charcoal, potassium nitrate and sulphur.

Kid's chemistry sets back then actually had cool chemicals in them.

Good times, good times.  :-)
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 03, 2011, 12:21:03 PM
Does anybody remember the foiled left-wing plot on the 2008 GOP Convention?

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During a search of a residence, police found gas masks, slingshots, helmets, knee pads and eight Molotov cocktails consisting of bottles filled with gasoline with attached wicks made from tampons.

"They mixed gasoline with oil so it would stick to clothing and skin and burn longer," Darby told me.


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/ChrisField/2011/01/10/remember_this_liberal_terror_attack_on_2008_gop_convention_thwarted
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: thundley4 on February 03, 2011, 12:24:33 PM
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"They mixed gasoline with oil so it would stick to clothing and skin and burn longer," Darby told me.

They sure weren't going to waste their petroleum jelly to make it really effective.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Randy on February 03, 2011, 02:25:06 PM
Let's hope the DUmmies take note of this photo. Should you ever find yourself ablaze, DUmmies, it's very important that you immediately take off running as fast as you possibly can. With enough speed, the wind you generate will extinguish the flames....

...once the fat burns away.  :rotf:
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: jukin on February 03, 2011, 02:26:36 PM
Let's hope the DUmmies take note of this photo. Should you ever find yourself ablaze, DUmmies, it's very important that you immediately take off running as fast as you possibly can. With enough speed, the wind you generate will extinguish the flames.

This would be a great source of alternative energy toward our march to the glorious future of green energy komrade.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 03, 2011, 07:42:30 PM
DUmmies...to get the optimum effect of your gasoline bomb, Just after lighting the wick, you should tap bottle firmly against a brick wall before throwing. This will excite the gasoline molecules and enhance the resulting effects.

You can't say we aren't helpful.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Tucker on February 03, 2011, 08:39:42 PM
Well, he sure doesn't want to sound like one of know-it-all nadin's Murikans.
Actually, this is one of the reasons we could never have this kind of uprising. If they tried using Molotov cocktails, the DUmbasses would very shortly turn themselves into human torches, and their uprising would be over.

All of the rest of the DUmbshits will view them as martyrs who followed a Buddhist ritual and in protest, they resorted to self-immolation.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: PatriotGame on February 03, 2011, 09:47:08 PM
We used to make our own gunpowder out of crushed charcoal, potassium nitrate and sulphur.

Kid's chemistry sets back then actually had cool chemicals in them.

Good times, good times.  :-)

Oh shit!!!

Back in the day, I could buy salt peter (potassium nitrate) and sublimed sulfur from the local drug store three blocks away!!

Referencing the World Book encyclopedia, I got the recipe for gunpowder and burned away!

Someday we'll talk about pouring gasoline 20' down the round manhole/sewer cover then blowing the cover 30' into the air...(me...young..bad boy...)

Burned down a locker in jr. high with a melted mixture of salt peter, sulfur, and sugar in a Swanson's meat pie tin...oh those were the days...
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: franksolich on February 03, 2011, 10:35:57 PM
Oh shit!!!

Back in the day, I could buy salt peter.....from the local drug store three blocks away!!

Wasn't saltpeter that which was surreptitiously put in the chow given soldiers in basic training during the first world war (1914-1918; 1917-1918), as it had the effects opposite of, uh, Viagra?
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: thundley4 on February 03, 2011, 10:41:59 PM
Wasn't saltpeter that which was surreptitiously put in the chow given soldiers in basic training during the first world war (1914-1918; 1917-1918), as it had the effects opposite of, uh, Viagra?

There were rumors they did that in the early 80's.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: GOBUCKS on February 03, 2011, 11:00:28 PM
Back in the day, I could buy salt peter (potassium nitrate) and sublimed sulfur from the local drug store three blocks away!!

Referencing the World Book encyclopedia, I got the recipe for gunpowder and burned away!

Someday we'll talk about pouring gasoline 20' down the round manhole/sewer cover then blowing the cover 30' into the air...(me...young..bad boy...)

Burned down a locker in jr. high with a melted mixture of salt peter, sulfur, and sugar in a Swanson's meat pie tin...oh those were the days...
We used to make hand grenades out of medicine bottles (remember when they were green glass?) and firecrackers. You had to light the fuse, screw the lid on REALLY fast, and throw IMMEDIATELY. I'm amazed we grew up with two working eyeballs.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: PatriotGame on February 03, 2011, 11:00:28 PM
Wasn't saltpeter that which was surreptitiously put in the chow given soldiers in basic training during the first world war (1914-1918; 1917-1918), as it had the effects opposite of, uh, Viagra?
Yup!

ASSk Sparky...he's been there... :-)
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 04, 2011, 04:23:55 AM
(http://www.thinkandask.com/images/ablaze.jpg)

Shouldn't someone have the Doors' "Light My Fire" playing as a soundtrack to that pic? :fuelfire: :tongue:
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Tucker on February 04, 2011, 04:52:27 AM
We used to make hand grenades out of medicine bottles (remember when they were green glass?) and firecrackers. You had to light the fuse, screw the lid on REALLY fast, and throw IMMEDIATELY. I'm amazed we grew up with two working eyeballs.

We did the same thing. We went to a fireworks store in Toledo and bought fuse. We would buy bricks of firecrackers and cut them open with a x-acto knife. We would use one of the Excedrin bottles that had a locking cap. fill it up with powder. We could have used some glass, small nails, small fish hooks or BB's, but we didn't. Drill a hole in the cap for the fuse. Encapsulate the bottle in bondo.

It made one hell of a bang.

Zip guns are another story.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Mr Mannn on February 04, 2011, 05:42:54 AM
More revealing is this "How-To guide" is still up at DU! Hypocrites!
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 04, 2011, 02:03:02 PM
Well, he sure doesn't want to sound like one of know-it-all nadin's Murikans.
Actually, this is one of the reasons we could never have this kind of uprising. If they tried using Molotov cocktails, the DUmbasses would very shortly turn themselves into human torches, and their uprising would be over.

Leave to DUmmies not to figure out gasoline is not a good idea when throwing bottles full of flammable liquid. Good way of turnin' into a human candle! Unless of course ya make yer own napalm with some paraffin. I tend to lean toward diesel and 21-0-0, myself. At least that way, they go BOOM!!!!
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: ChuckJ on March 29, 2015, 12:17:00 PM
Just thought I'd bump this to the top considering the incident that happened this week.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on March 29, 2015, 12:55:14 PM
Rewmind me again who is it thats inciting violence online with this stuff? It's not us and I'm betting Der Skimmer needs to start deleting threads before he gets another visit.

Because all sane do this:

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If I were truly enraged with my opposition (and I have never been angry enough to use violence against another person, but I have tried to imagine what that might feel like), to the degree where I would throw a petrol bomb,  I'll just bet.

Uhhh.... stating this as a disqualifier, especially like that, makes it a slam dunk that you do ..... and often.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 29, 2015, 01:20:33 PM
As a kid we played with them down near an abandoned gravel pit.  We made them out the old small 10 ounce pop bottles.

I'm pretty sure the statute of limitations has run on what my friends and I may or may not have occasionally done with beer and soda bottles, rags, and gasoline when we were in high school in a certain rocky overhang which may or may not really exist on a farm in a state which shall remain nameless. 

My totally-unreliable recovered memories which are probably just dream fragments tell me you don't hold onto one long enough for it to heat up once you light it, overhand throwing works fine, you want to make sure they're tightly corked, and that the thrower doesn't have any gas on his hands.  The advice offered by the DUmmies indicates to me that none of them have actually done it.

People who use them in protests and try to hit people (More common in the Orient than the Mid-east protests) should be shot.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Mr Mannn on March 29, 2015, 01:23:56 PM
I remember this.
No one ever cautioned that you could kill, maim, or disfigure someone for life.
The OP even wanted to burn people, not just harmless explosions in the street.

An underlying current of evil permeates everything at DU.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Movie buff- The Sequel on March 29, 2015, 01:35:59 PM
But don't forget, it's REALLY conservatives who are dangerous, violent extremists seeking to spread chaos and death in the name of their beliefs!

Does anybody remember the foiled left-wing plot on the 2008 GOP Convention?
 

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/ChrisField/2011/01/10/remember_this_liberal_terror_attack_on_2008_gop_convention_thwarted

There were loads of plots like that from the various Anarchist scumbag protester groups at the 2008 RNC. As bad as things were there in terms of violence and rioting, it would have been a LOT worse if it weren't for the fact that St. Paul's police force did a freaking awesome job launching legal pre- emptive raids on the Anarchist groups' safehouses, arrested a bunch of their leaders on valid charges, and confiscated a TON of weapons that the Anarchists were planning to use against cops, convention delegates, and random innocent bystanders. One raided safehouse contained not just Molotovs and slingshots, but also things like machetes, throwing knives, and a compound bow with a full set of arrows.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: SVPete on March 29, 2015, 01:48:05 PM
But don't forget, it's REALLY conservatives who are dangerous, violent extremists seeking to spread chaos and death in the name of their beliefs!

There were loads of plots like that from the various Anarchist scumbag protester groups at the 2008 RNC. As bad as things were there in terms of violence and rioting, it would have been a LOT worse if it weren't for the fact that St. Paul's police force did a freaking awesome job launching legal pre- emptive raids on the Anarchist groups' safehouses, arrested a bunch of their leaders on valid charges, and confiscated a TON of weapons that the Anarchists were planning to use against cops, convention delegates, and random innocent bystanders. One raided safehouse contained not just Molotovs and slingshots, but also things like machetes, throwing knives, and a compound bow with a full set of arrows.

And the guy who exposed and foiled that plot has been vilified by Libs & Progs ever since.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 29, 2015, 03:15:47 PM
These DUmmies need to be monitored.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: SVPete on March 29, 2015, 03:38:14 PM
These DUmmies need to be monitored.

I believe frank and several others already perform that public service. I couldn't do it. My head would

 :marsattacks:
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Skul on March 29, 2015, 09:28:05 PM
Petrol?  Meters?  Is this guy from the US or is he just trying to sound European?
BEG!! I haven't seen you in ages.   :blowkiss:
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: obumazombie on March 30, 2015, 12:38:04 AM
Just thought I'd bump this to the top considering the incident that happened this week.

That was a good bump, excellent even (say it like snagglepus).
I enjoyed reading the thread and didn't even realize it originated in 2011 until I got to page 2.
Title: Re: DU Guide to Petrol Bomb Throwing.
Post by: Skul on March 30, 2015, 01:32:34 AM
We used to make our own gunpowder out of crushed charcoal, potassium nitrate and sulphur.

Kid's chemistry sets back then actually had cool chemicals in them.

Good times, good times.  :-)
Do the numbers 25-15-10, come to mind?
Moisen with stale urine, and mix away. Roll it out and break it up when dried.