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Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« on: November 19, 2009, 10:49:37 AM »

Attorney General Holder Stumped By Lindsey Graham
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/11/18/npr-shocker-attorney-general-holder-stumped-lindsey-graham
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During Wednesday's Justice Department oversight hearing by the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) stumped Attorney General Eric Holder on what should have been a fairly routine question for America's top law enforcement official.

Maybe more surprisingly, NPR reported it at its website.

As NPR's Frank James noted, "The exchange started with Graham stumping Holder with a question one would have thought the attorney general would have been prepared for."

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG7lm8Sfbo4[/youtube]
(transcript can be viewed at the above link)
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http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826

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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2009, 11:05:11 AM »
Power Line is already all over the spin control necessitated by Holder's beating.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/11/024988.php
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We noted last night that under the Obama administration's law-enforcement approach to terrorism, if we capture Osama bin Laden the first things we'll have to do are read him his rights and get him a free lawyer. When Lindsay Graham pointed this out to Eric Holder in yesterday's Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, Holder feebly responded that maybe we wouldn't have to Mirandize bin Laden because the evidence against him is "overwhelming."

This answer was essentially nonsensical, but Pat Leahy amplified it this morning, in a further effort at spin control:

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), the chairman of that committee, said that arguments raised by Republican senators about whether bin Laden would be afforded Miranda rights if he were captured was a "red herring."

"The red herring that my friend [Sen.] Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) was covering is not realistic," Leahy said during an appearance on "Washington Journal" on C-SPAN.

"For one thing, capturing Osama bin Laden -- we've had enough on him, we don't need to interrogate him," Leahy added
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And here:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/11/024989.php

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Conservatives like to say that the Democrats are reverting to a pre-9/11 mentality whereby we treat Islamist terrorism mainly as a law enforcement issue. But I'm pretty sure that, even pre-9/11, we would have interrogated a captured terrorist leader not just to "get enough on him" for a prosecution, but also to find out where his fellow terrorists could be found and what they might be planning.
"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

- Ayn Rand
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826

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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2009, 11:24:15 AM »
Everytime the idot Dems open their mouth they are paving the way for an appeal by the defense to have any conviction in a lower court overturned.

I'm believing more and more each day that these people WANT the terrorists to go free.
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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2009, 11:27:54 AM »
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"For one thing, capturing Osama bin Laden -- we've had enough on him, we don't need to interrogate him," Leahy added.

So what are you saying you idiot....he will be shot on sight?

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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2009, 11:29:38 AM »
Everytime the idot Dems open their mouth they are paving the way for an appeal by the defense to have any conviction in a lower court overturned.

I'm believing more and more each day that these people WANT the terrorists to go free.
So they can blame Bush.

"Don't blame us! Bush made us try the terrorists in civil courts because he had KSM waterboarded!"
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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2009, 11:33:20 AM »
So they can blame Bush.

"Don't blame us! Bush made us try the terrorists in civil courts because he had KSM waterboarded!"

And at the same time the MSM and the Dems will have a complete memory loss over the fact that THEY pushed for these murderous thugs to have the same rights you and I enjoy.
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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2009, 12:23:41 PM »
I'm believing more and more each day that these people WANT the terrorists to go free.

I'm convinced of it.  Why else would would Holder go down this path; why else would Obama make a public comment (as a 'scholar of law" he should know what the repercussions are) on the disposition of Bin Laden? 

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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2009, 12:28:55 PM »
I don't understand how Holder can say that they can still be held if found innocent, or if the judge tosses the case because of the tainted jury pool. Are they setting us all up for the prison camps? :tinfoil:

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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2009, 06:03:04 PM »
will be a very interesting day when these guys walk free....

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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2009, 06:20:21 PM »
will be a very interesting day when these guys walk free....

Indeed it will.

But of course Zero will long be out of office before KSM goes to trial.

How convenient is that?
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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2009, 06:38:22 PM »
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we don't need to interrogate him

So if we were to catch OBL it is the policy of the United States of America that any intelligence about future terrorist attacks that might have been gained by interrogating him is not important enough to outweigh the Constitutional protections that OBL should not even be entitled to. We are doomed.

   
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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2009, 06:52:47 PM »
So if we were to catch OBL it is the policy of the United States of America that any intelligence about future terrorist attacks that might have been gained by interrogating him is not important enough to outweigh the Constitutional protections that OBL should not even be entitled to. We are doomed.

   

You have highlighted Exhibit A of what happens when you spend a life spewing Liberal BS with no one to challenge you on the idiocy you say.

That the POTUS would claim that we don't need to interrogate THE most wanted/hated man in America is foolish enough to be dangerous.
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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2009, 06:55:08 PM »
So if we were to catch OBL it is the policy of the United States of America that any intelligence about future terrorist attacks that might have been gained by interrogating him is not important enough to outweigh the Constitutional protections that OBL should not even be entitled to. We are doomed.

   

Nope. OBL will be set free because the Armed forces won't mirandize him.

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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2009, 06:59:41 PM »
How demoralizing this whole thing must be to those militiary members currently wearing the uniform.
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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2009, 07:06:08 PM »
How demoralizing this whole thing must be to those militiary members currently wearing the uniform.

Three guesses and your first two are wrong...
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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2009, 07:08:20 PM »
Three guesses and your first two are wrong...

Yeah...

I should have posted pissed off instead of demoralized.
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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2009, 07:10:44 PM »
I recall how pissed off I was when that ***** Bush Senior wouldn't let us finish the job in 91.

Hell, we were already there in force, with the logistics to get the job done.
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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2009, 07:14:35 PM »
Yeah...

I should have posted pissed off instead of demoralized.

IMHO I'd say both are accurate.
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Re: Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2009, 08:09:11 PM »
How demoralizing this whole thing must be to those militiary members currently wearing the uniform.

Or any that have worn the uniform since 9/11....
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