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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2013, 04:24:42 PM »
Because there is nothing out of the ordinary or off the wall when it comes to  demoncrap organizations. (According to the  demoncraps.)

 :doh: I forgot that the dimwits are not normal in anything they do, and that all misbehavior is accepted and even encouraged.
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2013, 07:49:02 PM »
I heard earlier that reports now claim Jewish groups were targeted as well.

If Liberal Jews have any love for Israel, they better wake up.  Secular Jews are a lost cause.

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2013, 11:25:41 AM »
This issue is really heating up.

These are the headlines over on Drudge this morning

IRS Began Targeting Conservatives in March 2010...

Probe Expands To Groups Opposed To Gov't, Teaching Constitution...

Scrutiny Deeper Than Thought...

'Kept shifting targets in tax-exempt groups'...

Agency accused of leaking confidential tax documents during election...

FLASHBACK: Romney donor vilified by Obama campaign, then subjected to 2 audits...

Did Plouffe Justify IRS Targeting Conservative Groups?
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2013, 12:20:25 PM »


I'm not sure if the IRS scandal is a lesser one or not, but Obama has more "plausible deniability" regarding the IRS.  It could be why the MSM is finally breaking this story.

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2013, 12:40:51 PM »
Did anyone watch Tim Carney at the WH presser today? First, he had a pre-meeting, termed 'deep understanding' or some crazy name for only certain press corp members. Then he had the regular press briefing. They were hitting him pretty hard on Benghazi and IRS, as well as wondering why he had an invitation only meeting for some. Seems like a bad idea to piss off reporters at this stage of the game, but perhaps he thought they would continue to give him a pass.

I saw that "briefing" -- at least part of it, until I became sick to my stomach.

Carney The ****tard is without a doubt the most glib, smarmy, polarizing, and infuriating Presidential Mouth to ever have set foot on that podium. Even Gibbs, while being a rabid liar, was at least sincere. You could tell he actually believed the shit that spewed out of his mouth. Carney The ****tard not only DOESN'T believe the shit that spews out of his mouth but has the unmitigated gall to expect others to swallow that shit without blinking an eye.

After about 10 minutes of that utter and complete travesty, I physically became ill and turned it off. There is only so much lying and obfuscation on the taxpayer's dime I can take before getting sick.
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2013, 02:03:47 PM »
After about 10 minutes of that utter and complete travesty, I physically became ill and turned it off. There is only so much lying and obfuscation on the taxpayer's dime I can take before getting sick.

I reacted the same way.  Cavuto replayed it on his show and I couldn't watch the whole thing.   :argh:
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2013, 02:40:04 PM »
I heard earlier that reports now claim Jewish groups were targeted as well.

If Liberal Jews have any love for Israel, they better wake up.  Secular Jews are a lost cause.

I thought the liberal Jews were secular.

On another forum a prominent member who is a Jew often said the "Religious" Jews were the only ones who supported Israel.
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2013, 02:52:53 PM »
IRS scrutiny went beyond Tea Party, targeting of conservative groups broader than thought
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/13/irs-scrutiny-went-beyond-tea-party-criteria-broader-than-thought/

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An IRS campaign to apply additional scrutiny to conservative groups went beyond targeting "Tea Party" and "patriot" groups to include those focused on government spending, the Constitution and several other broad areas.

The additional guidelines created by the agency were part of a timeline, obtained by Fox News, from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, which is looking into the controversial IRS practice. IRS officials apologized Friday for the scrutiny, but new information suggests senior leaders were apprised of the effort as early as 2011 despite public denials from the top.

This gets worse.
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2013, 03:44:47 PM »
I thought the liberal Jews were secular.

On another forum a prominent member who is a Jew often said the "Religious" Jews were the only ones who supported Israel.
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2013, 03:45:25 PM »
I saw that "briefing" -- at least part of it, until I became sick to my stomach.

Carney The ****tard is without a doubt the most glib, smarmy, polarizing, and infuriating Presidential Mouth to ever have set foot on that podium. Even Gibbs, while being a rabid liar, was at least sincere. You could tell he actually believed the shit that spewed out of his mouth. Carney The ****tard not only DOESN'T believe the shit that spews out of his mouth but has the unmitigated gall to expect others to swallow that shit without blinking an eye.

After about 10 minutes of that utter and complete travesty, I physically became ill and turned it off. There is only so much lying and obfuscation on the taxpayer's dime I can take before getting sick.

I watched the whole thing because I liked watching Carney barker squirm.

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2013, 12:41:39 AM »
curiouser and curiouser

I did a little internet searching about who was incharge of the IRS.

Bush appointed a Douglas Shulmer just before he (Bush) left office in '08.  Shulmer had been incharge of this area of tax exemptions.

Shulmer testified before congress and said that the IRS was not targeting conservatives.

Shulmer left the IRS last year and went to work at the Brookings Institute, at the same time that Cass Sunstein went to work for Brookings.

Glen Beck used to say that Cass Sunstein was the most dangerous man in Government.

This is an article from Salon in 2010.  It's a very liberal left wing site;

"Cass Sunstein has long been one of Barack Obama’s closest confidants.  Often mentioned as a likely Obama nominee to the Supreme Court, Sunstein is currently Obama’s head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs where, among other things, he is responsible for “overseeing policies relating to privacy, information quality, and statistical programs.”  In 2008, while at Harvard Law School, Sunstein co-wrote a truly pernicious paper proposing that the U.S. Government employ teams of covert agents and pseudo-”independent” advocates to “cognitively infiltrate” online groups and websites — as well as other activist groups — which advocate views that Sunstein deems “false conspiracy theories” about the Government.  This would be designed to increase citizens’ faith in government officials and undermine the credibility of conspiracists.

http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

I don't know if these two men even know each other, but they both worked in the government and both went to Harvard and both went to the Democrat think tank at the same time.  Coincidence?

Not that Shulmer was involved in the IRS issue, but I sure wouldn't put it past Sunstein. 


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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2013, 01:25:37 AM »
More webs that connect (adding to Dori's info above):

Sorry to go all Glenn Beck blackboard on ya, but maybe someone will  find this interesting.

Confidential IRS documentation was sent to ProPublica, who (I think) leaked that to WaPo.  ProPublica wrote an article on Rove's Crossroads PAC last year or the year before.


ProPublica was the brainchild of Herbert and Marion Sandler. Marion died last summer. She was the former co-CEO of Golden West Financial Corporation and World Savings Bank. They were included in Time Magazine's 25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis article

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877343,00.html)

They are in tight with George Soros and other left wing activists.

Henry Louis Gates, of the police acted stupidly fame, is also tied to ProPublica.

Why would they leak this if they are in bed with Obama et al? Was it to take the eye off Benghazi?

I found an article and a mapping system of people, organizations, and money ties here:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualprofile.asp?indid=2484





Apologies for the really small text.  If anyone is interested, go to that article on discoverthenetworks.com and click on visual maps (right corner).



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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2013, 04:34:51 AM »
I think we can safely say we now know how Harry Reid knew about Mitt Romney’s finances and whether he was paying his taxes or not.  And how Stephanie Cutter knew he had off shore accounts in the Cayman Islands. 

Not to mention how Austan Goolsbee was able to release private supposedly "not for the public" tax info on the Koch Brothers.

And why Frank VanderSloot, Co-Chair of Romney’s national campaign was audited by not only the IRS but the Labor Department as well.

Also just as an aside, if I were a 1st Sergeant and two of my platoon sergeants were involved in shady activity and I tried to claim “I don’t have any control over what they’re doing”…like someone has been doing lately with people that work for him…I’d be fired on the spot.
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2013, 04:42:12 AM »
I think we can safely say we now know how Harry Reid knew about Mitt Romney’s finances and whether he was paying his taxes or not.  And how Stephanie Cutter knew he had off shore accounts in the Cayman Islands. 

Not to mention how Austan Goolsbee was able to release private supposedly "not for the public" tax info on the Koch Brothers.

And why Frank VanderSloot, Co-Chair of Romney’s national campaign was audited by not only the IRS but the Labor Department as well.

Also just as an aside, if I were a 1st Sergeant and two of my platoon sergeants were involved in shady activity and I tried to claim “I don’t have any control over what they’re doing”…like someone has been doing lately with people that work for him…I’d be fired on the spot.

If you were a team leader and said you didn't have any knowledge or control over what two of your privates were doing, you'd be fired on the spot. It's an issue of dereliction of duty.

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2013, 09:18:31 AM »
More webs that connect (adding to Dori's info above):

Sorry to go all Glenn Beck blackboard on ya, but maybe someone will  find this interesting.

It can be quite disturbing to see how connected all of these Marxist/Communist groups are.  And how much influence they have on policy and how this country is run.

What are the conservative networks?  It sure seems like we are so far behind that we'll never be able to catch-up in time. 

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2013, 11:57:47 AM »
KMOV anchor: The IRS is targeting me
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/05/kmov-anchor-the-irs-is-targeting-me-163945.html

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Larry Connors, a veteran local news anchor at KMOV Channel 4 in St. Louis, says that the Internal Revenue Service has been targeting him since an April 2012 interview he conducted with President Obama -- a fact that he dismissed as coincidence until the recent reports about the IRS targeting conservative groups.
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2013, 03:44:33 PM »
I think we can safely say we now know how Harry Reid knew about Mitt Romney’s finances and whether he was paying his taxes or not.  And how Stephanie Cutter knew he had off shore accounts in the Cayman Islands. 

Not to mention how Austan Goolsbee was able to release private supposedly "not for the public" tax info on the Koch Brothers.

And why Frank VanderSloot, Co-Chair of Romney’s national campaign was audited by not only the IRS but the Labor Department as well.


Agreed and I think we should move forward with the basic idea that Organizing for America, Move-on, and everyone else connected with the Obama cabal has a great deal of financial and secret information on everybody they thought was threatening.

I bet we also know why so many people are staying quiet and have a further indication of why the IRS needed so many extra agents.

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2013, 04:55:26 PM »
It can be quite disturbing to see how connected all of these Marxist/Communist groups are.  And how much influence they have on policy and how this country is run.

What are the conservative networks?  It sure seems like we are so far behind that we'll never be able to catch-up in time. 

I agree.  I went to the site I linked above and was overwhelmed.  It's actually very scary. 

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2013, 06:11:57 PM »
KMOV anchor: The IRS is targeting me
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/05/kmov-anchor-the-irs-is-targeting-me-163945.html


Well, Obama did hire 15,000 new IRS agents, so they're doing a little "make work"....... and then he armed some of them.
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2013, 06:20:09 PM »
IRS official Lerner speedily approved exemption for Obama brother’s ‘charity’
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/14/irs-official-lerner-approved-exemption-for-obama-brothers-charity/

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Lois Lerner, the senior IRS official at the center of the decision to target tea party groups for burdensome tax scrutiny, signed paperwork granting tax-exempt status to the Barack H. Obama Foundation, a shady charity headed by the president’s half-brother that operated illegally for years.

According to the organization’s filings, Lerner approved the foundation’s tax status within a month of filing, an unprecedented timeline that stands in stark contrast to conservative organizations that have been waiting for more than three years, in some cases, for approval.

Lerner also appears to have broken with the norms of tax-exemption approval by granting retroactive tax-exempt status to Malik Obama’s organization.

This is really suspicious. It gets worse. The White House had to of known what was going on.


IG report: ‘Inappropriate criteria’ stalled IRS approvals of conservative groups
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/holder-orders-fbi-justice-probe-of-irs/2013/05/14/7891fde6-bcc0-11e2-9b09-1638acc3942e_story.html?hpid=z1

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The Internal Revenue Service developed “inappropriate criteria” focused on conservative groups that stalled work on most of the organizations’ applications for nearly 13 months, according to a report issued by the Treasury Inspector General on Tuesday.
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2013, 06:20:33 PM »
Franklin Graham was targeted too. I expect more to come forward.

Franklin Graham: IRS targeted us, too
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/franklin-graham-irs-targeting-91362.html

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The IRS came after Billy Graham, too, his son charged Tuesday in a letter to President Barack Obama.

Franklin Graham, the president of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and the family’s international humanitarian organization Samaritan’s Purse, said that the IRS notified the organizations in September that it was conducting a “review” of their activities for tax year 2010.

With the IRS admitting it gave extra scrutiny to conservative political organizations, Graham says he now believes that the review was part of an Obama administration effort of “targeting and attempting to intimidate us.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/franklin-graham-irs-targeting-91362.html#ixzz2TJPp6UCI
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2013, 06:22:55 PM »
Looks like a flood of "targets" coming forth.
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
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FLASHBACK 2012: Democrat Senators Demand IRS Scrutinize Tea Party Groups

A group of seven Senate Democrats urged the Internal Revenue Service on Monday to impose a strict cap on the amount of political spending by tax-exempt, nonprofit groups.

The senators said the lack of clarity in the IRS rules has allowed political groups to improperly claim 501(c)4 status and may even be allowing donors to these groups to wrongly claim tax deductions for their contributions. The senators promised legislation if the IRS failed to act to fix these problems.

“We urge the IRS to take these steps immediately to prevent abuse of the tax code by political groups focused on federal election activities. But if the IRS is unable to issue administrative guidance in this area then we plan to introduce legislation to accomplish these important changes,” the senators wrote.

The letter was signed by Senators Charles E. Schumer, Michael Bennet, Sheldon Whitehouse, Jeff Merkley, Tom Udall, Jeanne Shaheen and Al Franken.
It follows an earlier letter, sent to the IRS by the same of group of senators last month, that also urged the IRS to better enforce rules pertaining to 501(c)4 organizations.
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2013, 10:51:17 PM »
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Exactly. Sounds like upper level were on to it.
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Democratic senator pressured IRS to investigate nonprofits

Sen. Carl Levin (D., Mich.) repeatedly pressed the Internal Revenue Service to investigate the tax-exempt status of specific conservative nonprofit organizations in letters to then-IRS commissioner Doug Shulman and director Lois Lerner in 2012.

Levin said he was concerned nonprofit organizations were abusing their tax-exempt status and engaging in partisan politics and requested information from the IRS on 12 organizations.

“Organizations are using Internal Revenue Code section 501(c)(4) to gain tax exempt status while engaging in partisan political campaigns,” wrote Levin in one letter on July 27, 2012. “Making the problem worse is that the IRS knows there is a problem because of the public nature of the activity but has failed to address it.”
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