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Offline Mr Mannn

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Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« on: July 28, 2012, 06:29:13 AM »


http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/un-treaties/240837-obama-blamed-for-arms-treatys-failure-at-the-united-nations
Obama blamed for failure of international arms-trade treaty

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The United Nations indefinitely suspended action on an international arms trade treaty Friday after the United States and several other countries asked for more time.

The decision sparked angry reactions from human rights groups often allied with the Obama administration, who believed a treaty to regulate the export of deadly weapons to rogue regimes was within reach. The UN had spent the entire month of July hammering out a deal, and Friday was the deadline for an agreement on a treaty that has met with the staunch opposition of the National Rifle Association and bipartisan concerns in the Senate.

"This was stunning cowardice by the Obama administration, which at the last minute did an about-face and scuttled progress toward a global arms treaty, just as it reached the finish line,” said Suzanne Nossel, the executive director of Amnesty International USA. “It’s a staggering abdication of leadership by the world’s largest exporter of conventional weapons to pull the plug on the talks just as they were nearing an historic breakthrough that would have required all nations to deny arms export licenses where there was an overriding risk that the weapons would be used to facilitate serious crimes against humanity.”

And Scott Stedjan, Oxfam America’s senior policy advisor, called the failure “a tremendous loss for thousands of innocent civilians around the globe who die each year from armed violence fueled by the unregulated transfer of arms.”

U.S. allies also expressed their frustration.

"We came to New York to achieve a strong and robust Arms Trade Treaty. We had expected to adopt such a draft Treaty today. We believe we were very close to reaching our goals,” a group of 90 countries – including the U.K., France and Germany – said in a statement read at the end of the conference. "Compromises have had to be made, but overall the text you put forward yesterday has the overwhelming support of the international community as a base for carrying forward our work. We believed that this would have been possible with extra work today and only very reluctantly now see that this is not possible."

The group held out hope that the UN could still reach consensus on a treaty this year.

Even then, the treaty would almost certainly fail to get the two-thirds majority needed for ratification by the U.S. Senate, where 51 senators have already signed on to a letter raising their objection to any treaty that would regulate “small arms" or "light weapons," as the draft treaty does. Proponents of the treaty, which include the National Association of Evangelicals, say there is nothing in the treaty that is incompatible with Second Amendment gun rights.

Bottom line, it wasn't courage that defeated this treaty, but cowardice. Typical for Obama.
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2012, 07:43:47 AM »
Cowardice by Obama--and courage by those in the US that opposed it.  The internals had to be horrendous on this, thanks to such groups as the Sipsey Street Irregulars, Gun Owners of America, the National Rifle Association, and others.

For DUmb**** lurkers, the Second Amendment says nothing about hunting, or even the shooting sports.  The sole purpose of the Second Amendment is to make the government afraid of its' citizens.  Then, there is liberty.  If the citizens are afraid of the government, there is tyranny.
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2012, 09:13:15 AM »
Going to send what I can to the NRA. Good Job!!
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2012, 10:21:22 AM »
When I first saw the report last night, the first thing that came to my mind was that obama was trying to score some more votes. Then it dawned on me that he just gave into the pressure again. The UN has no right to mess with our 2nd ammendment right; and in all seriousness, we shouldn't even be in the UN. They are nothing but a waste.
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2012, 01:09:48 PM »
Pffftt no way. Some how, some way this is all Bush's fault. You know that by now.  :lmao:
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2012, 02:21:37 PM »
Can't find anything about this at the DUmp....strange.
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2012, 03:53:55 PM »
Pulls support for the arms treaty, offers "support" for Israel after snubbing them...he knows he's on the ropes. Too little, too late.
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2012, 05:47:35 PM »
Mainly he did it so he could have three months for his base to forgive him, instead of having just one month or so 'til the vote after a humiliating defeat with many Dem defections in the Senate.  I don't think for a minute that this decision had anything to do with principles, or he wouldn't have supported it in the first place.
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2012, 05:52:29 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on July 28, 2012, 05:47:35 PM
Mainly he did it so he could have three months for his base to forgive him, instead of having just one month or so 'til the vote after a humiliating defeat with many Dem defections in the Senate.  I don't think for a minute that this decision had anything to do with principles, or he wouldn't have supported it in the first place.

I agree and he doesn't know the meaning of principals anyways.
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2012, 05:53:41 PM »
Quote from: Jasonw560 on July 28, 2012, 03:53:55 PM
Pulls support for the arms treaty, offers "support" for Israel after snubbing them...he knows he's on the ropes. Too little, too late.

Yep. He is SOL and going down like the Titanic. Even the suck ass liberal media can not save him.
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2012, 10:24:50 PM »
Quote from: Randy on July 28, 2012, 05:52:29 PM
I agree and he doesn't know the meaning of principals anyways.

Sure he does, principals are the dudes who run the schools.  :-)

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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2012, 09:19:52 AM »
Personally I blame Rove... :yahoo:
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2012, 10:14:56 AM »
Quote from: Lacarnut on July 28, 2012, 05:53:41 PM
Yep. He is SOL and going down like the Titanic. Even the suck ass liberal media can not save him.

The only difference between him and the TITANIC?

The TITANIC had a band.
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2012, 06:18:40 PM »
Quote from: CG6468 on July 29, 2012, 10:14:56 AM
The only difference between him and the TITANIC?

The TITANIC had a band.

Another big difference.  The Titanic was an accident, what Obama is doing to the economy has to be intentional.
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2012, 10:10:01 PM »
Whatever the reason it's good news that it's gone but you can bet its not going away.
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2012, 10:20:17 PM »
Suzanne Nossel is now on the same radical Feminazi list as Ingrid Neukirk and Terry O'Neill.

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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2012, 10:10:13 AM »
Quote from: Airwolf on July 29, 2012, 10:10:01 PM
Whatever the reason it's good news that it's gone but you can bet its not going away.

Exactly.  Like a thief in the night, the gun-grabbers will try again.
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2012, 02:46:11 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on July 30, 2012, 10:10:13 AM
Exactly.  Like a thief in the night, the gun-grabbers will try again.

And again, and again, and again and again and again....
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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2012, 03:40:17 PM »
Quote from: Randy on July 30, 2012, 02:46:11 PM
And again, and again, and again and again and again....

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Re: Obama blamed for FAILURE of international arms-trade treaty
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2012, 04:21:37 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on July 30, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
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