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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #375 on: January 12, 2011, 04:41:54 PM »
As portrait of Jared Loughner sharpens, 'vitriol' blame fades
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0112/As-portrait-of-Jared-Loughner-sharpens-vitriol-blame-fades

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At this point, then, the left's initial eagerness to link the shooting to political anger on the right could backfire, says Charles Franklin, a pollster and political scientst at the University of Wisconsin in Madison.

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To be sure, Sheriff Dupnik put the issue on the national plate with his comments, and given that that the shooting appears to be a political assassination attempt in a politically rancorous border district, the debate on political tone was, in many ways, inevitable.

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But critics point out that the nation largely refrained from linking Maj. Nidal Malik Hassan – the suspect in the 2009 Fort Hood shootings – with terrorism.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #376 on: January 12, 2011, 04:42:48 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on January 12, 2011, 04:36:08 PM
Fox News had reported that at least 4 of 10 calls to the Loughner house were about Jared. What were the others about?

That's what I want to know. One of them was he was drunk at school.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #377 on: January 12, 2011, 05:21:45 PM »
Loughner was stopped by police on morning of shooting.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110112/ap_on_re_us/us_congresswoman_shot

The officer let him off on a warning when he ran a red light.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #378 on: January 12, 2011, 05:27:18 PM »
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Loughner was stopped by police on morning of shooting.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110112/ap_on_re_us/us_congresswoman_shot

The officer let him off on a warning when he ran a red light.

It would suck to be that cop. He must be going through some awful self recriminations.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #379 on: January 12, 2011, 05:36:04 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on January 12, 2011, 05:27:18 PM
It would suck to be that cop. He must be going through some awful self recriminations.

I know, but what else could he have done?

He couldn't take him to jail over a red light infraction.  But for that cop to know he had Loughner less than a foot away from him?  Sucks.  Too bad he couldn't predict the future.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #380 on: January 12, 2011, 07:45:29 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on January 12, 2011, 05:36:04 PM
I know, but what else could he have done?

He couldn't take him to jail over a red light infraction.  But for that cop to know he had Loughner less than a foot away from him?  Sucks.  Too bad he couldn't predict the future.

Poor guy.  I can't even imagine how bad he must feel. 
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #381 on: January 12, 2011, 08:19:53 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on January 12, 2011, 07:45:29 PM
Poor guy.  I can't even imagine how bad he must feel. 

I know. It is not his fault. The fault lies SQUARELY on Jared Loughner.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #382 on: January 12, 2011, 08:22:47 PM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on January 12, 2011, 08:19:53 PM
I know. It is not his fault. The fault lies SQUARELY on Jared Loughner.

I agree with you 100%, but I still bet he feels bad.  Who wouldn't?
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #383 on: January 12, 2011, 08:24:40 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on January 12, 2011, 08:22:47 PM
I agree with you 100%, but I still bet he feels bad.  Who wouldn't?

Oh absolutely. If I was him, I too would feel guilty. He should take no blame.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #384 on: January 16, 2011, 11:31:46 PM »


Holy crap! Has anyone seen this yet? It was in fact, just brought to my attention. If I were one in attendance, I would not have complied. Simple as that.

Disgusting.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #385 on: January 17, 2011, 12:27:05 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on January 12, 2011, 05:27:18 PM
It would suck to be that cop. He must be going through some awful self recriminations.

How would you like to be the state trooper who stopped one of the 9-11 terrorists on I-95 the day before?  I know him.  He had no idea just who he had on that traffic stop.  They found his speeding ticket in the glove compartment of his rental car at the airport parking lot.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #386 on: January 17, 2011, 12:36:22 AM »
Quote from: F_Rat-46 on January 17, 2011, 12:27:05 AM
How would you like to be the state trooper who stopped one of the 9-11 terrorists on I-95 the day before?  I know him.  He had no idea just who he had on that traffic stop.  They found his speeding ticket in the glove compartment of his rental car at the airport parking lot.

I think there was a security gate agent at one of the airports that had a similar experience.  I don't remember his name, but I do recall hearing his story.

I don't envy either of them.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #387 on: January 17, 2011, 12:53:06 AM »
Quote from: chris_ on January 17, 2011, 12:36:22 AM
I think there was a security gate agent at one of the airports that had a similar experience.  I don't remember his name, but I do recall hearing his story.

I don't envy either of them.

The trooper was stationed at my barrack, then got transferred to the barrack on I-95.  He was a K-9 trooper with a drug dog.  He made the stop and ran the guy through NCIC and nothing appeared so he wrote him and let him go.  The guy had a Virginia driver's license.  I watched the video from his in car camera.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #388 on: January 17, 2011, 12:57:49 AM »
Quote from: F_Rat-46 on January 17, 2011, 12:27:05 AM
How would you like to be the state trooper who stopped one of the 9-11 terrorists on I-95 the day before?  I know him.  He had no idea just who he had on that traffic stop.  They found his speeding ticket in the glove compartment of his rental car at the airport parking lot.

I remember that story.....
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #389 on: January 17, 2011, 06:02:02 PM »
What is that a photo of Rev?
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #390 on: January 17, 2011, 06:03:42 PM »
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What is that a photo of Rev?

I believe that's a photo of the Jumbotron in the arena/auditorium during the memorial ceremony (complete with applause sign).
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #391 on: January 17, 2011, 06:09:19 PM »
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #392 on: January 17, 2011, 06:16:56 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on January 17, 2011, 06:03:42 PM
I believe that's a photo of the Jumbotron in the arena/auditorium during the memorial ceremony (complete with applause sign).
 


Is that an applause sign for the audience to applause or is it closed captioning the speech? When closed captioning is done on tv...applause, laughter, door bell ringing, car horn honking - something occurring during a lapse in speaking...is all bracketed like that.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #393 on: January 17, 2011, 06:19:38 PM »
Quote from: debk on January 17, 2011, 06:16:56 PM
Is that an applause sign for the audience to applause or is it closed captioning the speech? When closed captioning is done on tv...applause, laughter, door bell ringing, car horn honking - something occurring during a lapse in speaking...is all bracketed like that.

I never did find out. 
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #394 on: January 17, 2011, 07:20:43 PM »
What an embarrassment. :banghead:
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #395 on: January 27, 2011, 08:40:26 AM »
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Can we just go ahead and kill this guy now? :mad:
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #396 on: January 27, 2011, 09:52:38 AM »
Quote from: chris_ on January 27, 2011, 08:40:26 AM
Can we just go ahead and kill this guy now? :mad:

The amount and type of research he did proves to me that he is NOT insane/crazy/mentally ill.
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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona
« Reply #397 on: January 27, 2011, 10:29:35 AM »
Quote from: ConservativeMobster on January 17, 2011, 06:02:02 PM
What is that a photo of Rev?

It could be CC for the hearing impaired, but I'm not certain at all about that. I think it was trying to get the citizens of AZ to applaud Obumble.

Kind of ticks me off too.
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