Breaking.............John Murtha Dead

[NHSparky]

I'm surprised.....all things considered, I would have thought he would have wanted Arlington.

To be among, as he put it, "cold-blooded murderers"?  He pissed on the memory of everyone there, deb.

[debk]

To be among, as he put it, "cold-blooded murderers"?  He pissed on the memory of everyone there, deb.

I understand that, Sparks....and I, personally, don't think he deserves to be among heroes.


I just figured with his ego, he would want to be at Arlington.

[Chris_]

I just figured with his ego, he would want to be at Arlington.

HIS ego yes, but perhaps his family was privately embarrased by his actions and knew in their hearts that it would be blasphamy to put him at Arlington. They probably knew it would cause an uproar with the Veteran and miliary familes and didn't want to deal with the backlash.

[Thor]

The should just bury him in the garbage dump where he belongs. After all, he made himself no better than the trash.

[Eupher]

HIS ego yes, but perhaps his family was privately embarrased by his actions and knew in their hearts that it would be blasphamy to put him at Arlington. They probably knew it would cause an uproar with the Veteran and miliary familes and didn't want to deal with the backlash.

I realize we're just speculating here, but I find it extremely unlikely that Murtha's family was in any way embarrassed by his actions. Let's keep in mind that Murtha had a long career in bringing the pork home and he was very, very popular at home as a result. He managed to fend off every challenger for his seat (despite my own personal support of Lieutenant Colonel William Russell in the 2008 election); this despite his calling his own constituents rednecks and racists.

And because of that, I find it unlikely that Murtha himself wanted to be buried anyplace other than where he's winding up. For whatever reason, he chose not to be buried in Arlington and while that's perfectly fine by me (Arlington is hallowed ground, fitting only for those who have served honorably and faithfully), apparently he had other plans.

No, sorry, I just don't see Murtha's family doing much more than finalizing the funeral arrangements, collecting the life insurance settlement/proceeds, and investigating closely to see what their options would be in prosecuting the surgeon that allegedly screwed up Murtha's large bowel and caused the infection that killed him.

I can definitely see Murtha's family trying to cash in on everything possible.

Go ahead - call me a cynic.  

[Chris_]

Cynic!

Maybe so, your probably right.
Whatever the reason, just glad he's not going to Arlington.

[AllosaursRus]

Hi,

Finally something I can tip my hat to.

When I heard on the radio he had died I wondered what I would post.  This was a man who turned on his fello Marines, damn near collaborated with the enemy, put our soldiers in harm's way unnecessarily and I should call him a hero.  There was a day he would have been drummed out of the corps and congress.

I wish there was a soft side of me that could forgive and show some compassion, but in his case there is not.  May Jane Fonda soon be buried next to him.  If it is made public I promise you there will be no grass growing on their graves.....

regards,
5412

Pretty hard for grass to grow with that much urine contanimating the soil!

[Eupher]

Pretty hard for grass to grow with that much urine contanimating the soil!

 

[Chris_]

Hanoi Jane might oughta just be creamated.
No cemetery wants that kind of soil contamination issue.
From the rotting red corps is what I'm talking about.

[AllosaursRus]

I realize we're just speculating here, but I find it extremely unlikely that Murtha's family was in any way embarrassed by his actions. Let's keep in mind that Murtha had a long career in bringing the pork home and he was very, very popular at home as a result. He managed to fend off every challenger for his seat (despite my own personal support of Lieutenant Colonel William Russell in the 2008 election); this despite his calling his own constituents rednecks and racists.

And because of that, I find it unlikely that Murtha himself wanted to be buried anyplace other than where he's winding up. For whatever reason, he chose not to be buried in Arlington and while that's perfectly fine by me (Arlington is hallowed ground, fitting only for those who have served honorably and faithfully), apparently he had other plans.

No, sorry, I just don't see Murtha's family doing much more than finalizing the funeral arrangements, collecting the life insurance settlement/proceeds, and investigating closely to see what their options would be in prosecuting the surgeon that allegedly screwed up Murtha's large bowel and caused the infection that killed him.

I can definitely see Murtha's family trying to cash in on everything possible.

Go ahead - call me a cynic. 

My bet is his ego was so great, he wanted to be close by so he could be adored even after death. He needed to be close, otherwise they would have to travel.

[5412]

Hanoi Jane might oughta just be creamated.
No cemetery wants that kind of soil contamination issue.
From the rotting red corps is what I'm talking about.

Hi,

I posted the following in the Comedy thread, maybe should have added it here.

regards,
5412

Dear Mr. President,
 
You have asked for suggestions on helping the environment.  I have an idea that could save thousands, if not millions of gallons of fuel.
 
Please issue a presidential order that John Murtha and Jane Fonda be buried in adjoining graves sites.  I know thousands of former Vietnam military personnel who have expressed a desire to pay their respects when they pass on.  If they are buried next to each other they could visit both graves on one trip.
 
Once we get to the cemetery I know they will be easy to spot because there will be no grass growing on either of them.
 
Thank you sir,
 
A Humble Peasant

[Duodecim]

I'm going to have to give my "+1" to those who are simply offering condolences to his family.  It is hard for me to hate a dead person, especially for (harshly) saying things that were (horribly) misguided.  He has now suffered the loss of his life, and he cannot do any more harm.  I would have been satisfied if he had just apologized and stopped talking.

[AllosaursRus]

I'm going to have to give my "+1" to those who are simply offering condolences to his family.  It is hard for me to hate a dead person, especially for (harshly) saying things that were (horribly) misguided.  He has now suffered the loss of his life, and he cannot do any more harm.  I would have been satisfied if he had just apologized and stopped talking.

Fortunately or unfortunately, most of us here are patriots and refuse to stand by while a complete asshole disparages our troops.

[5412]

I'm going to have to give my "+1" to those who are simply offering condolences to his family.  It is hard for me to hate a dead person, especially for (harshly) saying things that were (horribly) misguided.  He has now suffered the loss of his life, and he cannot do any more harm.  I would have been satisfied if he had just apologized and stopped talking.

Hi,

All of us in life are responsible for our own behavior.  All of us have the capacity to forgive.  Unfortunately for John Murtha he crossed the line and committed some unforgivable acts in the minds of many of us; particularly Marines.  Semper Fi means something to Marines, even to guys like me who went to boot camp over half century ago.  He lied, turned on the Corps for political purposes, put soldiers in harm's way by inflaming the enemy and those are unforgivable. 

An apology would have been nice; however the arrogant son-of-a-bitch did not think he did anything wrong even when the facts proved him wrong.  I have a friend who is coming home on a four day leave tomorrow and then is heading to Afganistan.  I have told him many times that he should not pay too much attention to the politicians, but rather it is the guys and gals standing next to him that he must rely on and have faith in.  Mr. Murtha broke that faith.  He put soldiers at risk for his personal political gain.  That is a crime for which many offer no forgiveness, let the Lord handle that one.

regards,
5412 

[Chris_]

Heck of a good post 5412. As deep as most of us all feel it,
I know that you Marines feel it that much deeper x 1000.

I will keep your friend heading to Afganistan in my prayers.

[PatriotGame]

I'm going to have to give my "+1" to those who are simply offering condolences to his family.  It is hard for me to hate a dead person, especially for (harshly) saying things that were (horribly) misguided.  He has now suffered the loss of his life, and he cannot do any more harm.  I would have been satisfied if he had just apologized and stopped talking.

Yea, and so you said about Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, and Mao.
Ask me to elaborate as to why a steaming pile of horse shit carries more weight than your "opinion".