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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on September 21, 2021, 11:41:45 AM
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MineralMan (139,305 posts)
Suggesting that Facebook, YouTube, or whatever should be shut down is folly.
Actually, it is worse than folly. It is downright stupid.
Maybe you don't like Facebook. Perhaps you consider Facebook to be just a comfortable home for right-wingers, constantly posting lies and misinformation. So, since you don't like it, you want to ban it from existence? Really?
Hmm...perhaps you should rethink. Banning things you don't like from public availability is pretty harsh. It's also unconstitutional, and downright authoritarian. Doing things like that is what fascists do.
Lots of people don't like Democratic Underground. Right-wingers hate any social media forum that says things they don't like. If they could, they would shut them all down and only allow social media outlets of which they approve. We'd immediately recognize that as an authoritarian, unfair, and unconstitutional thing to do and oppose it loudly.
There is no difference at all. And, if you look objectively at Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, or any number of other Internet venues, you'll notice that every political party, candidate, and issue is represented on them. Nobody with the power to do so can shut such venues down, and only the government has such power. Here's the important thing:
The government in this country is prohibited from shutting down free expression and speech. That was the First Amendment to be added to the US Constitution. It was THAT IMPORTANT.
So, before you suggest that some platform be eliminated because you don't like what shows up on that platform, imagine having your own favorite venues shut down by people who disagree with your points of view. Once you do that, you will understand why that doesn't happen. Everyone gets the opportunity to speak. You do. I do. Even people with whom we vehemently disagree have that same opportunity.
What would Trump shut down?
Think longer before saying stupid things, please. What you are asking for could easily be turned around and aimed at you.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215880167
Blah blah blah.
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imagine having your own favorite venues shut down by people who disagree with your points of view.
Dumbocraps, Progs, and Liberals do this constantly. Project much?
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Suggesting that Facebook or YouTube are comfortable homes for right-wingers is folly.
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If Rockhead really meant what he wrote, he would be making the case that these platforms shouldn’t be removing videos that are considered by the company to be false and/or inaccurate information. That would be considered defending the first amendment, especially since these platforms have become the new public square. But note that he would approve of these same platforms censoring opinions he does not like under the guise of “private ownership”, a viewpoint that would have gotten a member booted off the island just a few years ago.
What goes unmentioned is that Facebook is dead among young people. They have flocked to Instagram, Snapchat and Tic Tok.
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Star Member Hortensis (47,730 posts)
44. "No yelling fire in a crowded nation" regulation is needed.
We need to be able to stop the use of free speech to destroy it. I'm imaginging special courts with investigatory powers.
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Yeah... the Gestapo...
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MM shouls have ended his word salad here:
MineralMan (139,305 posts)
Suggesting that Facebook, YouTube, or whatever should be shut down is folly.
Actually, it is worse than folly. It is downright stupid.
Maybe you don't like Facebook. Perhaps you consider Facebook to be just a comfortable home for right-wingers, constantly posting lies and misinformation. So, since you don't like it, you want to ban it from existence? Really?
Hmm...perhaps you should rethink. Banning things you don't like from public availability is pretty harsh. It's also unconstitutional, and downright authoritarian. Doing things like that is what fascists do.
It's still loquacious, but it covers his points. OTOH, he should never have gone here:
What would Trump shut down?
Because the answer is known, nothing.
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Hortensis (47,730 posts)
44. "No yelling fire in a crowded nation" regulation is needed.
We need to be able to stop the use of free speech to destroy it. I'm imaginging special courts with investigatory powers.
You can yell, "Fire!" if there is a fire.
Not raising an alarm when there is a danger can also be seen as a depraved disregard for human life.