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Title: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Rebel Yell on January 24, 2008, 09:36:39 AM
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maddezmom   (1000+ posts)       Thu Jan-24-08 10:16 AM
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Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
 Source: AP

Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus 5 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - Democrats running Congress and the Bush administration reached a tentative deal Thursday on $300-$1,200 tax rebates and business tax cuts to jolt the slumping economy.


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

Families with children would receive an additional $300 per child, subject to an overall cap of perhaps $1,200, according to a senior House aide who outlined the deal on condition of anonymity in advance of formal adoption of the whole package. Rebates would go to people earning below a certain income cap, likely individuals earning $75,000 or less and couples with incomes of $150,000 or less.

The emerging package was already drawing fire from liberal activists and labor unions upset that proposals to extend unemployment insurance and boost food stamps had been dropped. They said those ideas could pump money into the economy more quickly than tax rebate checks that won't be delivered until June.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_on_go_co/economy...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3154391 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3154391)

I thought this was priceless....
 
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liberal N proud  (1000+ posts)       Thu Jan-24-08 10:23 AM
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3. Who is making out on this?
You know it isn't going to be you and me.
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I thought we conservatives were the selfish ones?
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: NHSparky on January 24, 2008, 09:42:50 AM
Actually, it isn't going to be a LOT of people, like anyone making over $75K a year.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Rebel Yell on January 24, 2008, 09:49:48 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
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I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Celtic Rose on January 24, 2008, 09:50:55 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
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I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:

Because that means that they would actually have to work to get a tax rebate  :whatever:
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Chris_ on January 24, 2008, 11:17:43 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
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I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Rebel Yell on January 24, 2008, 11:19:51 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
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I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

That's because not alot of employers are seaching in Mom's basement.  They usually like for potential employees to come to them. :bawl:
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Chris_ on January 24, 2008, 11:25:28 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

That's because not alot of employers are seaching in Mom's basement.  They usually like for potential employees to come to them. :bawl:
That would require effort, and that's, well, almost like work.   :uhsure:
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Freeper on January 24, 2008, 11:26:46 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Chris_ on January 24, 2008, 11:27:34 AM


Because that means that they would actually have to work to get a tax rebate  :whatever:

Exactly, but I wonder why Pelosi was so quick to throw the food stamps folks overboard?

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Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Rebel Yell on January 24, 2008, 11:28:38 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

The problem isn't that there are no jobs, the problem is that people are to proud (or sorry) to do the jobs that are out there.  I see people hiring in the paper all the time.  
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Chris_ on January 24, 2008, 11:30:59 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

The problem isn't that there are no jobs, the problem is that people are to proud (or sorry) to do the jobs that are out there.  I see people hiring in the paper all the time.  
Yeah, but if people took all those jobs, what would the illegal immigrants do?   :pokingpoop:
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Rebel Yell on January 24, 2008, 11:35:36 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

The problem isn't that there are no jobs, the problem is that people are to proud (or sorry) to do the jobs that are out there.  I see people hiring in the paper all the time.  
Yeah, but if people took all those jobs, what would the illegal immigrants do?   :pokingpoop:

Starve, for all I care.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Lord Undies on January 24, 2008, 11:35:50 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

Then how come the McDonald's up on the highway still can't fill their open positions @ $9.50/hour?  They've been struggling for three years to cover their store.  You'd think there would be a line down the service road.  

The Wal-Mart (HUGE) distribution center near Terrell, Tx. can't get enough people either.  They start at $12.50.  

Those maybe sucky jobs, but if times were as hard as the democrats and the media want us to believe, those jobs would not be available.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Freeper on January 24, 2008, 11:36:26 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

The problem isn't that there are no jobs, the problem is that people are to proud (or sorry) to do the jobs that are out there.  I see people hiring in the paper all the time. 


Says someone who is employed. Funny I used to think that too but as soon as I became unemployed I found the harsh reality. The economy sucks big time right now when the temp agencies don't have a single opening in the ATlanta area things are bad. Just hope that you never find yourself unemployed over something you have control over and can't find a job.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: DixieBelle on January 24, 2008, 11:37:49 AM
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Democratic leaders said that to speed the economic rescue package they would mostly bypass the usual committee process. Lawmakers said that they hoped the plan could be approved by mid-February and that it would be sufficient to soften an economic downturn and forestall a recession.

IDIOTS!!!  :banghead:

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“Giving temporary tax rebate checks to families, as important as that is, is not the same as economic growth,” said Representative Jeb Hensarling of Texas, chairman of the Republican Study Committee. “If you’re going to have an economic stimulus package, it ought to contain some economic stimulus.”
Some sanity...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/24/washington/24cnd-econ.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&ei=5088&en=147d667c3caf3d0a&ex=1358917200&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1201195919-sqOsAxWw7PYrcb%20SRO9R7w

Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Freeper on January 24, 2008, 11:39:45 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

Then how come the McDonald's up on the highway still can't fill their open positions @ $9.50/hour?  They've been struggling for three years to cover their store.  You'd think there would be a line down the service road. 

The Wal-Mart (HUGE) distribution center near Terrell, Tx. can't get enough people either.  They start at $12.50. 

Those maybe sucky jobs, but if times were as hard as the democrats and the media want us to believe, those jobs would not be available.

Maybe in your area Undies here there is a waiting list to get in to the wal mart distribution center. Fast food in this area wont touch me because I am overqualified as one of the managers told me. Other food service all requires experience in food service.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Rebel Yell on January 24, 2008, 11:39:59 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

The problem isn't that there are no jobs, the problem is that people are to proud (or sorry) to do the jobs that are out there.  I see people hiring in the paper all the time. 


Says someone who is employed. Funny I used to think that too but as soon as I became unemployed I found the harsh reality. The economy sucks big time right now when the temp agencies don't have a single opening in the ATlanta area things are bad. Just hope that you never find yourself unemployed over something you have control over and can't find a job.

I did lose my job a few months ago, but found another in a week.  Of course, I have my insurance license.  Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and take what you can get to get you by until something else comes along.  I have worked at Dairy Queen as a grown ass man.  That was humiliating, but it got me by.  

Good luck with the job seach, and keep ya head up.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Chris_ on January 24, 2008, 11:40:58 AM
It took me three monts to find steady work.  I did a few weeks of work in that time, but the majority of work in the IT sector in my area are for mid- or senior-level support.  It's sad, but unemplyment pays almost as much as some of the jobs out there. 
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Dixie*Darling on January 24, 2008, 11:44:20 AM

Yeah, but if people took all those jobs, what would the illegal immigrants do?   :pokingpoop:

Starve, for all I care.

 :pisscontest: illegals

Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Freeper on January 24, 2008, 11:46:12 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

The problem isn't that there are no jobs, the problem is that people are to proud (or sorry) to do the jobs that are out there.  I see people hiring in the paper all the time. 


Says someone who is employed. Funny I used to think that too but as soon as I became unemployed I found the harsh reality. The economy sucks big time right now when the temp agencies don't have a single opening in the ATlanta area things are bad. Just hope that you never find yourself unemployed over something you have control over and can't find a job.

I did lose my job a few months ago, but found another in a week.  Of course, I have my insurance license.  Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and take what you can get to get you by until something else comes along.  I have worked at Dairy Queen as a grown ass man.  That was humiliating, but it got me by. 

Good luck with the job seach, and keep ya head up.

Well at least you didnt tell me to move where the jobs are like some other folks said.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: DixieBelle on January 24, 2008, 11:47:30 AM
^LOL!
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Rebel Yell on January 24, 2008, 11:49:14 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

The problem isn't that there are no jobs, the problem is that people are to proud (or sorry) to do the jobs that are out there.  I see people hiring in the paper all the time. 


Says someone who is employed. Funny I used to think that too but as soon as I became unemployed I found the harsh reality. The economy sucks big time right now when the temp agencies don't have a single opening in the ATlanta area things are bad. Just hope that you never find yourself unemployed over something you have control over and can't find a job.

I did lose my job a few months ago, but found another in a week.  Of course, I have my insurance license.  Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and take what you can get to get you by until something else comes along.  I have worked at Dairy Queen as a grown ass man.  That was humiliating, but it got me by. 

Good luck with the job seach, and keep ya head up.

Well at least you didnt tell me to move where the jobs are like some other folks said.

You are a grown man.  You do what you want to.  It's not my place to tell other people what to do.  I just tell what I'd do, I don't know your situation.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Lord Undies on January 24, 2008, 11:49:49 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

Then how come the McDonald's up on the highway still can't fill their open positions @ $9.50/hour?  They've been struggling for three years to cover their store.  You'd think there would be a line down the service road. 

The Wal-Mart (HUGE) distribution center near Terrell, Tx. can't get enough people either.  They start at $12.50. 

Those maybe sucky jobs, but if times were as hard as the democrats and the media want us to believe, those jobs would not be available.

Maybe in your area Undies here there is a waiting list to get in to the wal mart distribution center. Fast food in this area wont touch me because I am overqualified as one of the managers told me. Other food service all requires experience in food service.

Well, you need to move to where the jobs are.  :old:
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Freeper on January 24, 2008, 11:52:34 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

Then how come the McDonald's up on the highway still can't fill their open positions @ $9.50/hour?  They've been struggling for three years to cover their store.  You'd think there would be a line down the service road. 

The Wal-Mart (HUGE) distribution center near Terrell, Tx. can't get enough people either.  They start at $12.50. 

Those maybe sucky jobs, but if times were as hard as the democrats and the media want us to believe, those jobs would not be available.

Maybe in your area Undies here there is a waiting list to get in to the wal mart distribution center. Fast food in this area wont touch me because I am overqualified as one of the managers told me. Other food service all requires experience in food service.

Well, you need to move to where the jobs are.  :old:

Oh yeah because the 3 to 4 grand needed to move grows on trees you just have to know which orchard to pick it from.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Lord Undies on January 24, 2008, 11:56:08 AM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
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I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

Then how come the McDonald's up on the highway still can't fill their open positions @ $9.50/hour?  They've been struggling for three years to cover their store.  You'd think there would be a line down the service road. 

The Wal-Mart (HUGE) distribution center near Terrell, Tx. can't get enough people either.  They start at $12.50. 

Those maybe sucky jobs, but if times were as hard as the democrats and the media want us to believe, those jobs would not be available.

Maybe in your area Undies here there is a waiting list to get in to the wal mart distribution center. Fast food in this area wont touch me because I am overqualified as one of the managers told me. Other food service all requires experience in food service.

Well, you need to move to where the jobs are.  :old:

Oh yeah because the 3 to 4 grand needed to move grows on trees you just have to know which orchard to pick it from.  :whatever:

Crawl down from the pyre, Joan.  It was just a parody because of what you said earlier in the thread. 
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Freeper on January 24, 2008, 12:03:42 PM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
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I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

Then how come the McDonald's up on the highway still can't fill their open positions @ $9.50/hour?  They've been struggling for three years to cover their store.  You'd think there would be a line down the service road. 

The Wal-Mart (HUGE) distribution center near Terrell, Tx. can't get enough people either.  They start at $12.50. 

Those maybe sucky jobs, but if times were as hard as the democrats and the media want us to believe, those jobs would not be available.

Maybe in your area Undies here there is a waiting list to get in to the wal mart distribution center. Fast food in this area wont touch me because I am overqualified as one of the managers told me. Other food service all requires experience in food service.

Well, you need to move to where the jobs are.  :old:

Oh yeah because the 3 to 4 grand needed to move grows on trees you just have to know which orchard to pick it from.  :whatever:

Crawl down from the pyre, Joan.  It was just a parody because of what you said earlier in the thread. 

You have to excuse me Undies I'm really frustrated right now. If I hear one more person tell me the economy is doing so wonderful I am gonna kick them in the head.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Crazy Horse on January 24, 2008, 12:20:46 PM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

Then how come the McDonald's up on the highway still can't fill their open positions @ $9.50/hour?  They've been struggling for three years to cover their store.  You'd think there would be a line down the service road. 

The Wal-Mart (HUGE) distribution center near Terrell, Tx. can't get enough people either.  They start at $12.50. 

Those maybe sucky jobs, but if times were as hard as the democrats and the media want us to believe, those jobs would not be available.

Maybe in your area Undies here there is a waiting list to get in to the wal mart distribution center. Fast food in this area wont touch me because I am overqualified as one of the managers told me. Other food service all requires experience in food service.

Well, you need to move to where the jobs are.  :old:

Oh yeah because the 3 to 4 grand needed to move grows on trees you just have to know which orchard to pick it from.  :whatever:

Crawl down from the pyre, Joan.  It was just a parody because of what you said earlier in the thread. 

You have to excuse me Undies I'm really frustrated right now. If I hear one more person tell me the economy is doing so wonderful I am gonna kick them in the head.

The economy is not doing as bad as some think.

It will get better
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Freeper on January 24, 2008, 12:27:14 PM
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AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top


I wonder why it is, that the line about having to earn a paycheck bothers them so much? :badmood:
...because no one can get a job in this **** economy.   :whatever:

Actually there is some truth to that the job market really sucks right now.

Then how come the McDonald's up on the highway still can't fill their open positions @ $9.50/hour?  They've been struggling for three years to cover their store.  You'd think there would be a line down the service road. 

The Wal-Mart (HUGE) distribution center near Terrell, Tx. can't get enough people either.  They start at $12.50. 

Those maybe sucky jobs, but if times were as hard as the democrats and the media want us to believe, those jobs would not be available.

Maybe in your area Undies here there is a waiting list to get in to the wal mart distribution center. Fast food in this area wont touch me because I am overqualified as one of the managers told me. Other food service all requires experience in food service.

Well, you need to move to where the jobs are.  :old:

Oh yeah because the 3 to 4 grand needed to move grows on trees you just have to know which orchard to pick it from.  :whatever:

Crawl down from the pyre, Joan.  It was just a parody because of what you said earlier in the thread. 

You have to excuse me Undies I'm really frustrated right now. If I hear one more person tell me the economy is doing so wonderful I am gonna kick them in the head.

The economy is not doing as bad as some think.

It will get better

Yeah real easy to think if you have a job or live in an area where there are jobs. But you all are conservatives so you think unemployed people are just lazy bums anyway.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Bondai on January 24, 2008, 12:37:11 PM
It pisses me off that the Government steals MY money via the income tax system and then the big shots act like they are doing me a big favor by giving some of it back. Assholes.... :banghead: :banghead: People that don't even pay taxes get a refund. It seems to me that it may be time to water the tree of liberty again.....



Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Freeper on January 24, 2008, 12:40:19 PM
It pisses me off that the Government steals MY money via the income tax system and then the big shots act like they are doing me a big favor by giving some of it back. Assholes.... :banghead: :banghead: People that don't even pay taxes get a refund. It seems to me that it may be time to water the tree of liberty again.....





It's only gonna get worse when Hillary is office. Taxes are going to go up.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Lord Undies on January 24, 2008, 02:11:18 PM


Yeah real easy to think if you have a job or live in an area where there are jobs. But you all are conservatives so you think unemployed people are just lazy bums anyway.

Take a Midol and lie down for a while.  Sheesh. 
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Freeper on January 24, 2008, 02:32:39 PM


Yeah real easy to think if you have a job or live in an area where there are jobs. But you all are conservatives so you think unemployed people are just lazy bums anyway.

Take a Midol and lie down for a while.  Sheesh. 

What I am saying is true.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Lord Undies on January 24, 2008, 02:50:55 PM


Yeah real easy to think if you have a job or live in an area where there are jobs. But you all are conservatives so you think unemployed people are just lazy bums anyway.

Take a Midol and lie down for a while.  Sheesh. 

What I am saying is true.

It doesn't jive with my life experience.  I find "you all are conservatives so..." to be insulting and way off the mark.  Conservatives know the difference between folks who are between job and the perpetually unemployed.  There is no point in alienating your internet friends because you are a bit depressed about your current situation. 
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Lord Undies on January 24, 2008, 03:24:48 PM


Yeah real easy to think if you have a job or live in an area where there are jobs. But you all are conservatives so you think unemployed people are just lazy bums anyway.

Take a Midol and lie down for a while.  Sheesh. 

What I am saying is true.

It doesn't jive with my life experience.  I find "you all are conservatives so..." to be insulting and way off the mark.  Conservatives know the difference between folks who are between job and the perpetually unemployed.  There is no point in alienating your internet friends because you are a bit depressed about your current situation. 

Well the conservative way of thinking is always to look down on those who are struggling. It's bad enough people here look down on me for my personal life problems now they look down on me because I'm unemployed.

That is an interesting take on the conservative way of thinking.  Once again, that is not my life experience.  I have been a conservative my entire life and I find my sort to be the most compassionate and trustworthy individuals you will ever want to meet.  Maybe you are confusing the "struggling" with the "worthless".  As long as someone is struggling, one can not be without worth.

I, personally, don't know anything about your personal life other than you were once married and now you are not.  I don't desire to know anymore unless you think it is important that I do. I take you at face value as we conduct our on-line relationship through the written word.  I don't offer judgment without reason and I don't take anything here too seriously.  I do, however, wish you well.     
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Freeper on January 24, 2008, 03:28:21 PM


Yeah real easy to think if you have a job or live in an area where there are jobs. But you all are conservatives so you think unemployed people are just lazy bums anyway.

Take a Midol and lie down for a while.  Sheesh. 

What I am saying is true.

It doesn't jive with my life experience.  I find "you all are conservatives so..." to be insulting and way off the mark.  Conservatives know the difference between folks who are between job and the perpetually unemployed.  There is no point in alienating your internet friends because you are a bit depressed about your current situation. 

Well the conservative way of thinking is always to look down on those who are struggling. It's bad enough people here look down on me for my personal life problems now they look down on me because I'm unemployed.

That is an interesting take on the conservative way of thinking.  Once again, that is not my life experience.  I have been a conservative my entire life and I find my sort to be the most compassionate and trustworthy individuals you will ever want to meet.  Maybe you are confusing the "struggling" with the "worthless".  As long as someone is struggling, one can not be without worth.

I, personally, don't know anything about your personal life other than you were once married and now you are not.  I don't desire to know anymore unless you think it is important that I do. I take you at face value as we conduct our on-line relationship through the written word.  I don't offer judgment without reason and I don't take anything here too seriously.  I do, however, wish you well.     

Look I apologize for being snarky just ignore what i said.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Lord Undies on January 24, 2008, 03:40:57 PM


Yeah real easy to think if you have a job or live in an area where there are jobs. But you all are conservatives so you think unemployed people are just lazy bums anyway.

Take a Midol and lie down for a while.  Sheesh. 

What I am saying is true.

It doesn't jive with my life experience.  I find "you all are conservatives so..." to be insulting and way off the mark.  Conservatives know the difference between folks who are between job and the perpetually unemployed.  There is no point in alienating your internet friends because you are a bit depressed about your current situation. 

Well the conservative way of thinking is always to look down on those who are struggling. It's bad enough people here look down on me for my personal life problems now they look down on me because I'm unemployed.

That is an interesting take on the conservative way of thinking.  Once again, that is not my life experience.  I have been a conservative my entire life and I find my sort to be the most compassionate and trustworthy individuals you will ever want to meet.  Maybe you are confusing the "struggling" with the "worthless".  As long as someone is struggling, one can not be without worth.

I, personally, don't know anything about your personal life other than you were once married and now you are not.  I don't desire to know anymore unless you think it is important that I do. I take you at face value as we conduct our on-line relationship through the written word.  I don't offer judgment without reason and I don't take anything here too seriously.  I do, however, wish you well.     

Look I apologize for being snarky just ignore what i said.

Gladly, as you wish, my friend. 
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Lauri on January 24, 2008, 04:13:07 PM
Quote
AllyCat  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
7. Looking out for the little people, eh Nancy?
 Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:40 AM by AllyCat
----snip---

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during the Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

---snip---

You have to be earning a paycheck in order to get anything. That should really help out the people who need it most.  Of course, NONE of this brings jobs back to the US which would actually help us instead of put a bandaid on a hemorrhage.

No wonder Congress is such a waste. 
Quote


does Alleycat ever wonder why Clinton did that whole outsourcing of jobs thingie way back when?
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Chris_ on January 25, 2008, 03:09:15 PM
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Democratic leaders said that to speed the economic rescue package they would mostly bypass the usual committee process. Lawmakers said that they hoped the plan could be approved by mid-February and that it would be sufficient to soften an economic downturn and forestall a recession.


I remember the last time the government sent out checks to the taxpayers.  The Democrats accused President Bush of trying to buy votes for the election.  Now, when they're in charge, it's suddenly a good thing.
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Chris_ on January 25, 2008, 03:38:01 PM
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Democratic leaders said that to speed the economic rescue package they would mostly bypass the usual committee process. Lawmakers said that they hoped the plan could be approved by mid-February and that it would be sufficient to soften an economic downturn and forestall a recession.


I remember the last time the government sent out checks to the taxpayers.  The Democrats accused President Bush of trying to buy votes for the election.  Now, when they're in charge, it's suddenly a good thing.

I think that both parties are trying to garner some votes.....at this time in the election process, it would be political suicide to oppose this proposal.  No one wants to go on record as opposing checks to the great unwashed.....just more "bread and circuses"

doc
Title: Re: Deal reached on tax rebates for stimulus
Post by: Chris_ on January 25, 2008, 03:44:05 PM

You have to excuse me Undies I'm really frustrated right now. If I hear one more person tell me the economy is doing so wonderful I am gonna kick them in the head.

What do you do for a living?