I've been looking around for something, because I'm fascinated by a certain phenomenon; it appears that belief in the theory of evolution declines alongside the decline of influence of religion in life.
In theory, the more a society is secularized, the more pervasive would be belief in the theory of evolution.
Right?
I mean, as a society "enlightens," replacing religious emotionaniacs with calm reasonable rational people, surely belief in the theory of evolution would be strengthened.
Right?
Well, apparently not, and it's all a mystery to me.
As we already know from the English, the most secular western society (less than 2% of the population attending church, or formally affiliated with a church), belief in the theory of evolution has declined considerably, to where now almost two-thirds of the calm reasonable rational non-religious Englishmen express much skepticism about the theory of evolution.
That appears to hold true for Norway and Sweden, too; two other places where the influence of religion has declined precipitiously the last three generations......accompanied by a corresponding decrease in those who believe in the theory of evolution.
It's all very mysterious.
I thought I would check out the ideal secular society, the purely scientific society, the society that embraces pure reason, but there isn't a whole lot of material on the internet about what Albanians think.
In case one didn't know, Albania from 1945 until 1990, was the rigidly Godless state.
No God at all in Albania; only scientific reasoning.
Well, it's been very difficult, as Albania isn't a popular theme on the internet, but I think I'm getting closer to learning that, yep, as religion died there, so too died belief in the theory of evolution.
I can't find numbers, but it appears that among Albanians, raised in a purely scientific state, have serious doubts about this scientific theory of evolution.
http://www.albanian.com/community/vbl/showthread.php?t=5818#1 01-27-2006
kavajes1
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A ka zot?
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Kjo pyetje po me vinte sot ne mendje. Dhe arrita ne konkluzionin qe krijuesi i gjithe gjerave eshte Zoti i madheruar. Prandaj me sa di une duhet te kete zot.
Cfare esht mendimi juaj per kete arsy?
#2 01-27-2006
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njerzit krejt gjanat qe sot i kemi edhe egzistojne i kan kriju e jo zoti. Zoti natyren e ka fal edhe intelegjencen e secilit prej nesh; dikush din ma shume, dikush ma pak, e dikush hiq
Fortunately, the Albanians get around to using English.
#8 01-27-2006
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what a moron...i dont have to listen what neuton or einstein believe for god...if u have a lil brain u'll understand that there is no god...
but u can name god the creation, the meaning of life...we the humans are just like the rest of the animals, just with a improoved brain but not special. we had dinosaurs before us, so many things hapened so we can talk right now.
#9 01-27-2006
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Okay, prove to me there is no god.
A ka Zot?
Ka.
Prove to me Im wrong since I am a moron and all.
#12 01-27-2006
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but u can name god the creation, the meaning of life...we the humans are just like the rest of the animals, just with a improoved brain but not special. we had dinosaurs before us, so many things hapened so we can talk right now.
Recent developments in 'science' completely disprove the theory of evolution my friend. Recent developments in science completely disprove the theory of evolution. The only reason Darwinism is still foisted on people by means of a worldwide propaganda campaign lies in the ideological aspects of the theory.
Darwin's theory of evolution maintained that all living beings emerged as a result of chance and thus denied Creation. Yet the forthcoming evidence was proved to be otherwise. Different branches of science like biochemistry, genetics, and palaeontology have demonstrated that the claims that life originated as a result of "coincidences" is deceptive.
#18 01-28-2006
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Erwald how do you think you were born? how were your parents born? who created your grandfather & grandmother? and who crated your great gand parents and your ancestors (That you always seem to go on about) ?
Where did they all come from? and dont say tress or animals or eggs or even fish because where did that all come from?
#20 01-28-2006
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Darwin himself said: "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."
Guess what? Something as simple as the human EYE has absolutely broken down his theory
The progress of science makes it clear that living beings have an extremely complex structure and an order too perfect to have come into being by coincidence. This is evidence to the fact that living beings are created by an All-Powerful Creator with superior knowledge.
#22 01-28-2006
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mz: i have facts ...now we know how from monkey shape faces became human like we are now...and u'll tell me why is the universe? no one cant explain that because simply we have a lil brain to have a clue...
our world is planet earth and we have so many things to learn, but we'll never descover the "why" for example can ur mind describe and endless universe? noo no one can do that.
so better stick to the things we know for sure, and leave god, u all sound like medieval people...dont tell me earth is still flat...
#23 01-28-2006
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Ok Erwald.
1. If we had the answers to everything this world has to offer and what this world is today we would have no point in living. Life is to learn, Life is a test. If you do not belive and have faith in God, you are then left with abnormal answers like the answers you provided us with everyday Erwald.
2. Who do you think created monkeys? If you think humans became humans because of monkeys, then where did the monkeys come from?
3. Our minds were not created to know what a endless universe is but our minds are made to learn the truth behind the creation of the universe.
One of the most important balances in our planet is revealed in the atmosphere that surrounds us. The atmosphere of the earth holds the most appropriate gasses in the most appropriate ratio needed for the survival not only of human beings, but also of all the living beings on the earth.
The 77% of nitrogen, 21% of oxygen and 1% of carbon dioxide as well as other gasses readily available in the atmosphere represent the ideal figures necessary for the survival of living beings. Oxygen, a gas that is vital for living beings, helps food to be burned and converted into energy in our bodies.
If the oxygen quantity in the atmosphere were greater than 21%, the cells in our body would soon start to suffer great damages. The vegetation and hydrocarbon molecules needed for life would also be destroyed. If this quantity were less, then this would cause difficulties in our respiration, and the food we eat would not be converted into energy. Therefore, the 21% of oxygen in the atmosphere is the most ideal quantity determined for life.
Let me guess, Erwald you think this is the work of a monkey?
It's a pretty lengthy debate, and most of it's in Albanian, Montenegrin, Tosk, and Ghegish, so never mind. There's some more in English, but the web-site's damnedably hard to copy-and-paste, so never mind again.
Anyway, if I was an evolution enthusiast, I'd worry.
These are obviously younger Albanians, who grew up wholly in an entirely Godless state, a state where atheism was the law. (For the record, Albania was even more rigid about this, than had been the old Soviet Union, and is at present China.)
So how come they're rejecting rational scientific thought?
What happened?