All is lost! It's naught but DOOM!!1!

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

MoonRiver (28,074 posts)

The United States of America is in a death spiral.

I hope I am wrong. Please prove me wrong.

KPN (2,781 posts)

2. You are only wrong if we unite, rise up and fight with no holds barred.
 
We can no longer take the high road. The GOP has proven without question that for them, this is war. Going high works with fair players. These people are not fair players. They don't care about consequences or their actions for the little people. The adage "nice guys come in last" holds true in this environment.

GliderGuider (20,907 posts)

3. So civil war is the only thing that will save the nation?

I think I see a problem with that.

nolabear (24,821 posts)

9. I'm deeply disturbed by the advocacy of possible violence around here lately.

You want to talk death spiral? Start "going low" and they, who DO in fact have control of the military right now will use it. They'll convince their people that the left is dangerous and must be subjugated and that train of thought will be Exhibit A.

We have to work like mad to uphold the democratic process and get reasonable people back into office. And those people have to work like mad to start a discussion with the moderate right and those who are far right out of exactly the fear of what you're demonstrating.

If we aren't better than that, we're already gone.

Initech (59,567 posts)

4. It all started with Reagan and his "government is the enemy" bullshit.

The GOP bought it, and they've been destroying our country ever since. Argh I hate this ****ing party.

You are the enemy and you want to own the government.

robertpaulsen (8,042 posts)

11. That's too limited. Civilization itself is in a death spiral.

Our society is predicated on an economic arrangement that requires infinite growth on a finite planet. We are cooking ourselves to death - there is a direct correlation between economic growth and rising greenhouse gas emissions. Drumpf's solution? Geoengineering; in other words, fighting pollution with more pollution. Unless you change the way money works, you change nothing.

BannonsLiver (744 posts)

14. "Humanity is a virus in tennis shoes." - Bill Hicks

It was true when he said it in the 90's and it's true now.

Fortunately Bill cured us of himself.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029014881

[Carl]

I wish they would get on with the revolution they want so we could get it over with.
I want to hit the golf course this evening after all. 

[DLR Pyro]

KPN (2,781 posts)

2. You are only wrong if we unite, rise up and fight with no holds barred.

I remember just a year ago, talk like that was considered racist.

[fatboy]

KPN (2,781 posts)

2. You are only wrong if we unite, rise up and fight with no holds barred.

Who is this "we" that they speak of? An army of pot-heads?

[I_B_Perky]

nolabear (24,821 posts)

9. I'm deeply disturbed by the advocacy of possible violence around here lately.

You want to talk death spiral? Start "going low" and they, who DO in fact have control of the military right now will use it. They'll convince their people that the left is dangerous and must be subjugated and that train of thought will be Exhibit A.

Pssst hey dummie? We don't have to convince anyone that the left is dangerous. You do that all by yourselves.   

[freedumb2003b]

KPN (2,781 posts)

2. You are only wrong if we unite, rise up and fight with no holds barred.
 
We can no longer take the high road.

The one thing the left has NEVER done is "take the high road."  It isn't even about results, it is about intentions. By any and all means possible, up to and including violent assault and murder.

[YupItsMe]

2. You are only wrong if we unite, rise up and fight with no holds barred.
 
We can no longer take the high road. The GOP has proven without question that for them, this is war. Going high works with fair players. These people are not fair players. They don't care about consequences or their actions for the little people. The adage "nice guys come in last" holds true in this environment.

  Seems like I remember a POS president couple years back saying "If they bring a knife, we bring a gun"  Who's going low.  Seems KPN has a short memory.  Probably all the weed he smokes.

[USA4ME]

Their whole economic model is dependent upon all the people in the country willingly cooperating with whatever the libs want. Have they not figured out that if they were to get their way there's a whole bunch of people who wouldn't go along which, in turn, would throw a monkey wrench into their whole plan?

It seems the answer is still "No, they haven't figured it out".

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[Karin]

Freddie's having a crying jag:

Response to MoonRiver (Original post)
Thu May 4, 2017, 02:51 PM
 Freddie (3,512 posts)
37. I cried all day Nov. 9

I feel the tears coming back now.
It was St. Ronnie who started this country on the path of heartlessness. I remember as a kid how optimistic we were. How everyone wanted to help each other. Now ***even though most voters did not vote for their party*** thanks to the EC, gerrymandering and the nature of the Senate which gives land more power than people, here we are. I don't see a way out except secession.

[franksolich]

.....the left is dangerous and must be subjugated.....

Damn right.

[SVPete]

More accurately:

... and the nature of the Senate which makes it harder for big cities to oppress and exploit the farmers and foresters who feed, cloth, and shelter them ...

[Ralph Wiggum]

More accurately:

A very good correction of liberals views on "flyover" country.

[98ZJUSMC]

They'll convince their people that the left is dangerous and must be subjugated and that train of thought will be Exhibit A.

Damn right.

No.  They misspelled exterminated.

I don't see a way out except secession.

Suicide is painless.  Do it, but first: f*ck off and then, die.