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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 14, 2017, 09:40:51 AM
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Baitball Blogger (26,333 posts)
Should we revoke the voting rights from those who are active in HATE groups
that are responsible for domestic terrorism?
Orrex (55,636 posts)
1. Revoke their citizenship and deport them.
Baitball Blogger (26,333 posts)
41. Our one saving grace is that it seems like politicians and public officials are
opposed to Trump's weak stance. That's probably because they're the ones that have to enforce law and order. And it just appears to me that we have the moral high ground on this one.
Baitball Blogger (26,333 posts)
15. We'll see if this escalates under Trump's leadership.
If it does, I am all for expediting due process. Justice delayed is justice denied.
Sentence first, verdict later.
WinkyDink (49,266 posts)
8. Sure! Why not?! Maybe Dubya was right about the Constitution!
Maybe it IS just "a *******ed piece of paper"!
A lie fabricated by a LW blogger.
BainsBane (42,595 posts)
19. Rather than coming up with ways to violate the First Amendment
How about people reflect on what they can do to stop making excuses for these people, to stop pretending they are just misunderstood, that they aren't really racist but care about TPP and corporatism? Seems to me if people did more of that, we might not have a White Supremacist in the White House to begin with.
These are the people we were told we needed to reach out to. Think on that a bit. How about we all think about what we may have said and done to minimize racism in an effort to promote a political agenda or faction?
^ when you're too old and saggy to work topless
yardwork (44,807 posts)
52. We need people to vote for Democrats.
Too many people allowed Trump to be elected because they "didn't feel inspired by" the Democratic nominee.
Now those same folks are horrified that Nazis feel empowered by the president who openly espoused their ideology during his campaign. The solution to this problem is not to abandon our Constitution.
Get out the vote.
Remember when the LW condemned Bush for his "if you're not with us, you're with the terrorists" rhetoric while the WTC was still smoldering?
Lefty doesn't.
NurseJackie (13,969 posts)
20. Define "active". Are you referring only to those who perpetrate the "domestic terrorism"? Or...
... does it also include "dues paying" members who are "active in the hate group" but who are content to sit-at-home and read the newsletter, fly the flag, wear the t-shirt, and emblazon the bumper sticker?
What level of "activity" would qualify someone to forfeit their rights?
Who decides?
Baitball Blogger (26,333 posts)
24. Active: Holding tiki torches to shout hate speech, kicking people who are on the ground,
arriving with the intention to create physical damage.
"holding tiki torches, shouting hate speech"
Just get your gun Lefty and let's do this.
NurseJackie (13,969 posts)
30. You're being very vague. Please explain: at what point do they lose their rights? Is it...
... when they arrive wearing a particular style of clothing? Or...
... because they held tiki torches and chanted? Or...
... because a designated mind-reader has determined that they have evil intentions? Or...
... is it when they're arrested for actually perpetrating violent and destructive acts?
And even then, what about due process?
How does this fit-in with our nation's constitutional protections, and how do we guarantee that these tactics won't be used against groups (and individuals) with which (and with whom) we agree?
I get the anger and rage that you're feeling and expressing. I'm sure it's a satisfying fantasy, but your proposed solution doesn't really fit well with our established laws and constitutional protections. It's an impulsive reaction that I'd expect from Cersei Lannister.
When the idiot scrunt NJ is your voice of reason you've gone wa-a-a-at too far.
Baitball Blogger (26,333 posts)
37. I think we are now at the level of this discussion where the only option is to
get them to the point of conviction, where, as a convicted felon, they lose their voting rights.
To add to that, I believe the benchmark for what qualifies as "active" will be in direct proportion to the potential future escalation of frequency and violence.
In other words, if Trump's veiled support of these groups embolden them and their mission becomes more violent, I forsee that they will be actively sought out based on the street photographs that prove they were there when the violence began.
NotASurfer (118 posts)
22. After adding the words "convicted felon" to their police record
Yes.
Odds that the Feds will treat these groups like the interstate crime syndicates they are ain't great without regime change.
So regime change is the first order of business.
Then we run people for office at every level who pledge to make "convicted felon" happen
You and what Army?
Baitball Blogger (26,333 posts)
26. Agree.
The one thing I would like to see is a much swifter process to get them to "convicted felon" status.
roamer65 (12,342 posts)
35. I do think they need to be identified and tracked.
They are no different than foreign agents.
They are enemies of the American republic.
Proud Liberal Dem (15,920 posts)
45. Makes a lot more sense
than refusing to allow people whom are felons from voting (or having to jump through a zillion hoops to "get their rights back" ).
So, to recap:
1. overthrow the duly elected government
2. institute domestic spying
3. arrest dissenters
4. circumvent civil liberties to ensure conviction and sentencing
Thank Kek for the 2nd Amendment.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029458113
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Baitball Blogger (26,333 posts)
Should we revoke the voting rights from those who are active in HATE groups
that are responsible for domestic terrorism?
That would affect a lot more democrat voters than conservatives. BLM, Muslims, the Democrat Party. :-)
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It's an impulsive reaction that I'd expect from Cersei Lannister.
Cersei is far smarter than any leftist and she'd have any DUmmy in Westeros killed on site.
Lena Headley (who plays Cersei) is FAR better looking than any female on DU.
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Whoa! Snugs hit the jackpot!
Baitball Blogger (26,333 posts)
Should we revoke the voting rights from those who are active in HATE groups
that are responsible for domestic terrorism?
Orrex (55,636 posts)
1. Revoke their citizenship and deport them.
Believe it or not, DU-morons, the Constitution protects peoples' right to be morons. A right DU-folk exercise continually. Since most of these people's only "crime" is disagreeing with you DU-morons' parroted party line, I'll ask: "You and what army?"
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Define for me what Hate is?
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Define for me what Hate is?
Hate is wanting the government to take money from people who have more and give it to people too lazy to work. :whistling:
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Define for me what Hate is?
anything that goes against the daily talking points of a liberal
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Baitball Blogger (26,333 posts)
Should we revoke the voting rights from those who are active in HATE groups
that are responsible for domestic terrorism?
Only the ones who are registered democrats. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #8)Mon Aug 14, 2017, 08:36 AM
Star Member Baitball Blogger (26,337 posts)
13. So, someone who is responsible for domestic terrorism should retain their right to vote?
I imagine it's a felony, so it's a given that they will lose their rights. Correct?
the other Terry thinks otherwise.
BB has been power tripping ever she was in an HoA and was mistaken for a housekeeper by some golfer.
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It would be hard to find a post anywhere which could do a better job of highlighting the cognitive dissonance and sheer hypocrisy of the DUmmmies than this one does.
Orrex wants to "revoke their citizenship and deport them!" But would be aghast if it were suggested to deport the actual illegal aliens in our midst.
Baitball Blogger want to "get them to the point of conviction, where, as a convicted felon, they lose their voting rights". And yet supports the very party which has made granting the right to vote to felons a centerpiece of their electoral strategy.
NotASurfer wants to "run people for office at every level who pledge to make "convicted felon" happen". But calls for the badges and the very lives of police officers when they do their job to do just that, because the felon-in-process is a member of one of their preferred "victim" groups.
To quote from BannedfromDU in another thread, DUmmies:
Eat a bag of dicks!
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yardwork (44,807 posts)
52. We need people to vote for Democrats.
This sums up the reason why the left so desperately wants felons, criminals and illegal aliens to vote.
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anything that goes against the daily talking points of a liberal
^^^^^^^^^^
Winner!!!! Ding, Ding, Ding!!!!!
H5!!!!
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It's an impulsive reaction that I'd expect from Cersei Lannister.
Cersei is far smarter than any leftist and she'd have any DUmmy in Westeros killed on site.
Lena Headley (who plays Cersei) is FAR better looking than any female on DU.
Cersei Lannister, as it turns out, is a fictional character on a TV show.
Cersei Lannister is a fictional character in the A Song of Ice and Fire series of fantasy novels by American author George R. R. Martin, and its television adaptation Game of Thrones, where she is portrayed by Lena Headey.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cersei_Lannister
When I want to read impulsive stupidity, I don't reach for a fantasy novel, I just row on over to democrat underground.
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Cersei Lannister, as it turns out, is a fictional character on a TV show.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cersei_Lannister
When I want to read impulsive stupidity, I don't reach for a fantasy novel, I just row on over to democrat underground.
Why row over when you can fly...
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-59890d7d/turbine/la-et-hc-game-of-thrones-loot-train-dragon-20170807)
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Orrex (55,636 posts)
1. Revoke their citizenship and deport them.
That thing doesn't work that way. If they were born here, there isn't anyplace to deport them TO. That's called 'Banishment,' not 'Deportation,' and it's considered a violation of basic human rights by your beloved international community.
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Why row over when you can fly...
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-59890d7d/turbine/la-et-hc-game-of-thrones-loot-train-dragon-20170807)
I like that approach! :fuelfire: :whistling:
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Why row over when you can fly...
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-59890d7d/turbine/la-et-hc-game-of-thrones-loot-train-dragon-20170807)
Fly, or FRY!
(Personally I like the last one. Kill it with fire! It's the best way to unwant something...)
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This sums up the reason why the left so desperately wants felons, criminals and illegal aliens to vote.
Robbers and pushers and rapists...
Oh, my!
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People who attempt to delegitimize a duly elected president should be the first people to lose their right to vote.