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Title: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: Freeper on April 28, 2012, 08:24:02 AM
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scheming daemons
 
are you better off than you were four years ago?

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The economy was shedding 750,000 jobs per month when Obama was sworn in. It has had 25 straight months of growth, averaging +200,000 over the past 6.

There are half as many troops in Iraq/Afghanistan than there were in January of 2009.

The Dow was at 6500 the day Obama's stimulus passed. It is over 13,000 now. Your 401k has doubled under Obama.

The U.S. auto industry was about to dissolve in the spring of 2009. It is healthier than it has been in decades now.

America was loathed throughout the rest of the world. It is respected now.

Osama was alive, and al Qaeda was reconstituting. He is dead and al Qaeda barely exists now.



Are we better off than we were 4 years ago???


HELL YES!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002619941

Talk about delusions. Where to start? 401-k's have doubled, really?  :banghead:
America is loved throughout the world now, really?
Al Queda barely exists now, really?

 :banghead:

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rrneck
1. Actually, no. But that wont keep me from voting D. nt

And we vote against our own self interests.  :whatever:

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Someone must have posted the truth there since it got nuked.

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nadinbrzezinski
8. Personally no

We're still sweating bullets...but that individual experience is different from statistics. We also know why we are in this boat.

0bama is the captain of this boat and just like that cruise ship that ran aground, 0bama will be the first one on the life boat.

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NRaleighLiberal
12. personally no...but I am a zillion times happier unemployed with Obama than employed with idiot son!

I have no words for this other than stupid.  :banghead:

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Warpy
13. Oh, crap yes

I inherited my dad's stocks in 2006, saw them peak in 2007 and then crash in 2008. Four years later, I have not only what I inherited but an additional 20% on top of it.

So HELL yes, I'm better off. My friends are slowly starting to find jobs and the ones who own businesses are starting to see those businesses improve and are talking about being able to retire before they drop dead in harness.

The only way we're all worse off than before 2009 is in health insurance. Only about half of us are insured at work now, down >20% in the past 10 years. This is unacceptable and I hope we're able to give Obama a Congress that is willing to do something about it.

Funny that same scenario of inheriting stock was a major sin for Romney, you damn 1 percenter.

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Texasgal
15. No.

But then again, I didn't expect my President to change everything for me.

So in other words you knew hopen n change was bullshit.

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Zorra
20. No.

I've lost an average of $725 - $750 in monthly income over the past 4 years, my insurance premiums have doubled while benefits were drastically cut, and travel expenses have gone through the roof.

I am owed some serious beer and travel money.

But at least Bush isn't in the WH anymore, that's a huge plus.

Once again talk about voting against your own self interests.
The beer and travel money reference is funny though.  :lmao:

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KG
25. not me.

haven't had a real job in 4 years.

What you can't find a real job in this massive recovery?  :lmao:

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alcibiades_mystery
28. Much better off

I do suspect that my particular skill set and industry has made out better than most during this horrible time.

I am much better off than I was four years ago - my whole family is. But I know that some aren't. I think we need to hold course.

Yeah the course we are on is so wonderful.  :whatever:

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pepperbear
40. I know this much...better off than if McCain/Palin had won. nuff sed.

 :whatever:

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nadine_mn
49. No.

Been unemployed since 2008, unable to pay student loans, quality of life has gone to shif. Still voting but just had to be honest

I would take a job at McDonalds before I would be unemployed for 4 years, then again that's one reason I'm not a DUmmy.

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Dawgs
59. NO, but I blame George Bush, the Republicans, and some weak ass Democrats.

President Obama does deserve some of the blame, but certainly not most of it.

And to use the cruise ship again, I blame the captain before the one, who crashed the ship, for the crash.

Damn near every post in that thread says things are worse, yet they can't wait for 4 more years of the same.  :mental:



Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: jukin on April 28, 2012, 09:04:34 AM
Don't forget about the $6,000,000,000,000.00 in new debt that Obama the dog eater saddled us with. That's about $20,000.00 for each citizen in four years.

And NO, I'm not better off nor are most people in the USA. Under Obama, the dog eater, more average household wealth has been lost than under any other president. I'd ask any college student how they feel about a 50% unemployment rate when they graduate and have the highest per capita student loan balances. Ask any senior citizen how they think it is working out with 00-1% returns on their CDs and no cost of living increases in the SS.

Socialism under Obama, the dog eater, has done what socialism always does, spread the misery out more evenly.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on April 28, 2012, 09:10:50 AM
So many answered "no."

Obviously their incessant calls for free energy, free healthcare, free education, free food, free housing etc isn't for their personal benefit but only out of the altruism of their souls for their fellow man.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 28, 2012, 09:20:59 AM
Man does not live by dog alone but by 'possum, and 'coon, and cat, .....and ...and
....and those are the lucky ones that bought a gun during the great gun rush of 2011/12.

Yeah, that's silly, I know but when Obama has finished his job and the "BLUE" cities have rioted, looted and burned everything....well, it will make a great movie.

Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: Kyle Ricky on April 28, 2012, 09:22:47 AM
Hmmm, so what would they say about the 81% of Americans who say they are no better off than they were four years ago?

If a republican president was in office right now, they will be saying we are in a depression. But since Obama is in office, we are recovering wonderfully. I say bull shit.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: Ogre on April 28, 2012, 09:59:28 AM
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NRaleighLiberal
12. personally no...but I am a zillion times happier unemployed with Obama than employed with idiot son!

Teh stooopid is strong with this one.

Of course you're happier, your savior the "O", master of debt, doesn't expect anything from you except your vote in November. :hammer:
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 28, 2012, 10:08:51 AM
NRaleighLiberal
12. personally no...but I am a zillion times happier unemployed with Obama than employed with idiot son!Teh stooopid is strong with this one.

Of course you're happier, your savior the "O", master of debt, doesn't expect anything from you except your vote in November. :hammer:

Yea! Though I walk through the valley of unemployment I will fear no cash flow problems, my government freebies he extendth.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: obumazombie on April 28, 2012, 10:12:05 AM
Teh stooopid is strong with this one.

Of course you're happier, your savior the "O", master of debt, doesn't expect anything from you except your vote in November. :hammer:
Maybe dude has found a way to pay the bills with his happiness.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: jukin on April 28, 2012, 10:14:30 AM
Decades from now historians will look back at the Obama dog eater years with a collective wonder of how so many went so mad so fast.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: obumazombie on April 28, 2012, 10:15:48 AM
Decades from now historians will look back at the Obama dog eater years with a collective wonder of how so many went so mad so fast.
With a little tweaking you could turn that into a Churchill look alike quote.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: Kyle Ricky on April 28, 2012, 10:18:10 AM
Obama will go down in history as the greatest black President in history. Of course they will leave out the fact that he is the only black President in history.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: obumazombie on April 28, 2012, 10:22:46 AM
Obama will go down in history as the greatest black President in history. Of course they will leave out the fact that he is the only black President in history.
He could win a coincidental worst white President in history.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: Kyle Ricky on April 28, 2012, 10:29:58 AM
He could win a coincidental worst white President in history.

Yeah, that is true. But he will always be known as a black Pres.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: Evil_Conservative on April 28, 2012, 11:58:03 AM
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Your 401k has doubled under Obama

No it hasn't!  My husband's 401k was doing amazing during Bush.  Once Obama came in, he lost $5,000!!!!!!!  Might not seem like a lot of money to some people, but it's a lot to us.  He has yet to recover even half of that money.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: miskie on April 28, 2012, 12:19:46 PM
No it hasn't!  My husband's 401k was doing amazing during Bush.  Once Obama came in, he lost $5,000!!!!!!!  Might not seem like a lot of money to some people, but it's a lot to us.  He has yet to recover even half of that money.

It liberal math in action. What they have done is computed the lowest point under Obama, and used that as the basis.

Example :

Let's say under Bush, a particular fund was on target to reach 20 points by today. During Obama's presidency, the fund fell to a low point of 5 points, and as of today, it has reached 10 points.

Therefore 'under Obama the fund has doubled' - Technically true, but only if one assumes history began with Obama. And many of the Obamaites would like you to believe that. Unless it's bad, then history began with Bush.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: obumazombie on April 28, 2012, 01:11:20 PM
It's very racist to assume that history didn't begin with owebuma.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: Kyle Ricky on April 28, 2012, 04:49:26 PM
It liberal math in action. What they have done is computed the lowest point under Obama, and used that as the basis.

Example :

Let's say under Bush, a particular fund was on target to reach 20 points by today. During Obama's presidency, the fund fell to a low point of 5 points, and as of today, it has reached 10 points.

Therefore 'under Obama the fund has doubled' - Technically true, but only if one assumes history began with Obama. And many of the Obamaites would like you to believe that. Unless it's bad, then history began with Bush.

Man this is so right. ^5
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: franksolich on April 28, 2012, 04:53:13 PM
The defrocked warped primitive's lying again.

Nothing new in that, though.

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Warpy

13. Oh, crap yes

I inherited my dad's stocks in 2006, saw them peak in 2007 and then crash in 2008. Four years later, I have not only what I inherited but an additional 20% on top of it.

So HELL yes, I'm better off. My friends are slowly starting to find jobs and the ones who own businesses are starting to see those businesses improve and are talking about being able to retire before they drop dead in harness.

The only way we're all worse off than before 2009 is in health insurance. Only about half of us are insured at work now, down >20% in the past 10 years. This is unacceptable and I hope we're able to give Obama a Congress that is willing to do something about it.

Ho hum.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: GOBUCKS on April 28, 2012, 05:02:05 PM
The defrocked warped primitive's lying again.

Nothing new in that, though.

Ho hum.
A clear tipoff to her lying:

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My friends are slowly starting to find jobs and the ones who own businesses are starting to see those businesses improve and are talking about being able to retire before they drop dead in harness.

A DUmpmonkey who was drummed from her profession for stealing drugs has no friends who own businesses.

I guess she could be talking about the guy who supplies her with pills, but those people never retire.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: Vagabond on April 28, 2012, 09:21:17 PM
Do the DUmmies realize that.....

A. 1000 points on the Dow equals about $1 trillion dollars?

B. That Obama created more than $5 Trillion dollars in debt, assets that the banks could then use to expand their stock purchasing?

C. That with A and B being both logical, that over 5,000 points of this 7,000 point recovery is due to government profligacy that will either end or result in massive inflation, either way causing a massive contraction in the same stock market?

Do the DUmmies realize that....

A.  That Obama is still negative 1 million jobs on his watch?

B.  That creating 200,000 jobs per month is barely treading water when measured against the number entering the workforce every month?

C.  That previous recessions have had growth averaging 4.4% and added jobs at a rate of 400,000 a month?
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: A7X_foREVer on April 28, 2012, 09:34:57 PM
Let's see hmmm nope not better off paying more in taxes and working 2 jobs to live.
One job for living expenses and bills and the second to pay for gas!
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: obumazombie on April 28, 2012, 09:37:12 PM
After 4 years of owebuma, owebuma is better off.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: Delmar on April 28, 2012, 11:37:10 PM
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)Sat Apr 28, 2012, 04:27 PM
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88. No, but that's Scott Walker's fault.

Did you hear that President Bush?  You're off the hook for this one.

Viking12, union organizer?

Viking12, if you think that you're in a bad way now, wait until Scott Walker wins the recall election. 

Maybe you can row a boat out onto Lake Mendota, set yourself on fire and go out in true Viking fashion.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: Bondai on April 29, 2012, 05:36:53 AM
The OP edited his original post. There was a statement in there about your 401 doubling. While my mole was getting ready to respond, he deleted it.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: diesel driver on April 29, 2012, 08:34:17 AM
Obama will go down in history as the greatest black President in history. Of course they will leave out the fact that he is the only black President in history.

I thought Klintoon was the first "black" president?   :mental:

And NO, HELL NO, OH HELL NO!  I am NOT better off than I was 4 years ago.  Any DUmbass, with at least 2 active brain cells that can communicate without a long distance connection, would be saying the same thing!

http://www.electstevedawes.com
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: obumazombie on April 29, 2012, 10:51:51 AM
I thought Klintoon was the first "black" president?   :mental:

And NO, HELL NO, OH HELL NO!  I am NOT better off than I was 4 years ago.  Any DUmbass, with at least 2 active brain cells that can communicate without a long distance connection, would be saying the same thing!

http://www.electstevedawes.com
clinnochio just said he was black. He said a lot of things that made his nose grow, and get redder. I am more black than clinnochio, in protest of the current administration. Am I better off ? After 12 years at my current job, my company got sold out to the mexicans, and I am pounding the pavement, and tapping into savings. It all happened on owebuma's watch.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: Freeper on April 29, 2012, 11:45:43 AM
The OP edited his original post. There was a statement in there about your 401 doubling. While my mole was getting ready to respond, he deleted it.

Damn sure enough he edited that part out. A talking point so lame that it was too much even for the DUmmies.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 29, 2012, 06:09:42 PM
YES! In a way I am better off today...I'm 3 years and 3 months closer to seeing the bastard gone.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: Doubleplusungood on April 29, 2012, 07:55:58 PM
Hmmm, so what would they say about the 81% of Americans who say they are no better off than they were four years ago?

If a republican president was in office right now, they will be saying we are in a depression. But since Obama is in office, we are recovering wonderfully. I say bull shit.

They claimed under 5% unemployment, gas under 2 bucks, and 6 trillion less debt was "the worst economy since the Great Depression". Pathological liars, every one of them.
Title: Re: are you better off than you were four years ago?
Post by: Kyle Ricky on April 29, 2012, 07:57:58 PM
They claimed under 5% unemployment, gas under 2 bucks, and 6 trillion less debt was "the worst economy since the Great Depression". Pathological liars, every one of them.

Yes, they are. Every one of them. It is worse now than it was Bush and we are in a great time to be in. Bull Shit.