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Title: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: terry on October 23, 2009, 12:46:47 PM
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joeycola  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Oct-23-09 12:30 PM
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White House's Fox News Boycott Attempt Prompts Network Revolt
   





First Posted: 10-23-09 09:56 AM | Updated: 10-23-09 10:16 AM


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/23/white-houses-f...

White House's Fox News Boycott Attempt Prompts Network Revolt


The White House attempted to block Fox News from a round of interviews with "pay czar" Kenneth Feinberg Thursday, but the Washington bureau chiefs of the five TV networks included in the White House pool refused to interview Feinberg unless Fox News was included.

Fox News says that the White House "failed in its attempt to manipulate other news networks into isolating and excluding Fox News."

The attempt to shut Fox News out was the latest move in the administration's ongoing battle against the cable news channel, which several senior administration officials have claimed is not a legitimate news organization.

The decision by the network bureau chiefs to stand with Fox News is one of the first instances of the mainstream media defending Fox News against the White House's claims.


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/23/white-houses-f...


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WeDidIt  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Oct-23-09 12:35 PM
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3. Then the White House should shut them all out.
   
Seriously.

If the white house is freezing out one network and the other networks don't like it, fine.

 :whatever:  Yea the Whitehouse should only talk to Rawstory and Michael Moore.


There is nothing really surprising but this is interesting..

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LisaM  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Oct-23-09 01:09 PM
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18. OK, so here's what I think.
   
I don't think Obama necessarily wants to ban Fox. He is just trying to make it clear to viewers that they shouldn't believe what they hear there.

Yea because we all need Obama to tell us who to to listen too.

Just like we need Obama to tell us who to talk to, who our doctors should be, how much money we should make, how we should educate our children.

It really is sort of pathetic that they think so little of themselves.
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: thundley4 on October 23, 2009, 01:21:24 PM
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LisaM  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Oct-23-09 01:09 PM
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18. OK, so here's what I think.
   
I don't think Obama necessarily wants to ban Fox. He is just trying to make it clear to viewers that they shouldn't believe what they hear there.

First of all, DUmmies don't think, they only parrot what they are told to.  Secondly, Lord Zero was hoping for a different outcome. He thought the others would toe the line, now he's just hoping they got the message to not oppose his agenda and to not cover stories that Fox breaks.
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: Texacon on October 23, 2009, 01:25:37 PM
I gotta know.  Has ANYONE asked these folks why they don't like Fox News?  I know they hate it but I can't figure out why.

Fox is more centrist than the rest of the media but they still aren't 'right'.  I see both sides of issues presented on Fox more often than I see it presented on any other channels ....

Can any of those folks cite specific instances of things Fox has done they don't care for?

KC
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: BadCat on October 23, 2009, 01:29:03 PM
I gotta know.  Has ANYONE asked these folks why they don't like Fox News?  I know they hate it but I can't figure out why.

Fox is more centrist than the rest of the media but they still aren't 'right'.  I see both sides of issues presented on Fox more often than I see it presented on any other channels ....

Can any of those folks cite specific instances of things Fox has done they don't care for?

KC

They hate Fox News because Beck, Hannity and O'Lielly have shows there.  They can't distinguish between "news" and "commentaries"
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: Doombot on October 23, 2009, 01:30:30 PM
I gotta know.  Has ANYONE asked these folks why they don't like Fox News?  I know they hate it but I can't figure out why.

Fox is more centrist than the rest of the media but they still aren't 'right'.  I see both sides of issues presented on Fox more often than I see it presented on any other channels ....

Can any of those folks cite specific instances of things Fox has done they don't care for?

KC

They didn't worship the Obamessiah like the DUmmies wanted them to.

And don't forget that anyone not as leftist as Chairman Mao is on the "right" to them. That is, anyone who wouldn't let them beat up people who have more than them and steal their things.
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: Chump on October 23, 2009, 01:30:53 PM
I gotta know.  Has ANYONE asked these folks why they don't like Fox News?  I know they hate it but I can't figure out why.

Fox is more centrist than the rest of the media but they still aren't 'right'.  I see both sides of issues presented on Fox more often than I see it presented on any other channels ....

Can any of those folks cite specific instances of things Fox has done they don't care for?

KC

Stay with me here.  Fox doesn't demonstrate an open liberal bias in its reporting of the news.  Therefore, Fox is incredibly biased and not really a news organization.  The end.
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: Chris_ on October 23, 2009, 01:33:53 PM
I gotta know.  Has ANYONE asked these folks why they don't like Fox News?  I know they hate it but I can't figure out why.

Fox is more centrist than the rest of the media but they still aren't 'right'.  I see both sides of issues presented on Fox more often than I see it presented on any other channels ....

Can any of those folks cite specific instances of things Fox has done they don't care for?

KC

Simple.....FOX's MO generally centers around having an issue put forth with a member of both sides participating in the debate........often the Democrat is made to look foolish in these situations, due to the fact that they are accustomed to stating their case in a vacuum, without opposition, as the rest of the MSM allows them to do, "interview style".

Democrats do not enjoy public debate, and generally prefer that it be done behind closed doors.....one would only have to look at the relative IQ of the Democratic members of congress to see why they dislike this format.........

doc
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: Texacon on October 23, 2009, 01:37:29 PM
Basically y'all are saying if they don't have a John Stewart or Steven Colbert aire about them then it isn't real news?!  LOL

Seriously.  I never could figure out why they hate Fox News so much.  Hell Fox does stuff that pisses me off but the bottom line is;  It is what it is.  The news isn't created (I mean SHOULDN'T be created) by the news orgs .... it is simply supposed to be reported.

I just wondered if any of them ever cite specific examples. 

They are such a bunch of frickin' cry babies.

KC
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: ScubaGuy on October 23, 2009, 01:51:16 PM
I gotta know.  Has ANYONE asked these folks why they don't like Fox News?  I know they hate it but I can't figure out why.

Fox is more centrist than the rest of the media but they still aren't 'right'.  I see both sides of issues presented on Fox more often than I see it presented on any other channels ....

Can any of those folks cite specific instances of things Fox has done they don't care for?

KC

You have to realize that these clowns think NPR is a right leaning news outlet. :mental:
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: debk on October 23, 2009, 01:54:50 PM
They hate Fox News because Beck, Hannity and O'Lielly have shows there.  They can't distinguish between "news" and "commentaries"


Neither can Obama....he only considers it "news" if it's in his favor.
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: bkg on October 23, 2009, 01:56:31 PM

Neither can Obama....he only considers it "news" if it's in his favor.

spot-on
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: BEG on October 23, 2009, 02:03:23 PM
Scratch a liberal, find a fascist.

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ej510 (1000+ posts)           Fri Oct-23-09 12:50 PM
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11. If faux is exposed the rest of the media will be exposed.
   
Shut the corporate media out.

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Vidar (1000+ posts)             Fri Oct-23-09 02:39 PM
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24. Exclude them all. Give it to public access channels.
   

   

 
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: crockspot on October 23, 2009, 02:08:13 PM
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idar (1000+ posts)             Fri Oct-23-09 02:39 PM
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24. Exclude them all. Give it to public access channels.

Haha.. can you imagine the press conferences? A room full of tattooed and pierced reporters wearing bdsm leather gear.  :whatever:
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: USA4ME on October 23, 2009, 02:10:57 PM
This all goes back to what we've known all along:  Liberals want no opinions voiced except those that agree with them, and the only media they want are those who will report as fact what they want presented and in the way they wanted it presented.  If there were any opposition opinions voiced -- that's a big IF -- their first choice would be to have them summarily executed.  Seeing as they aren't quite to that point, then they might be willing to have conservatives voice their opinion provided that a liberals could immediately follow behind their comments with their counter argument, but that would be the end of the discussion.

.
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: jinxmchue on October 23, 2009, 02:23:12 PM
Haha.. can you imagine the press conferences? A room full of tattooed and pierced reporters wearing bdsm leather gear.  :whatever:

The DUmmies would like that.
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: thundley4 on October 23, 2009, 02:32:14 PM
The DUmmies would like that.

Oh My. The things you can find on the interwebz !!!!

(http://www.n-shit.com/sitebuilder/images/bdsm_obama_bondage-248x197.jpg)
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: crockspot on October 23, 2009, 02:35:10 PM
Oh My. The things you can find on the interwebz !!!!

(http://www.n-shit.com/sitebuilder/images/bdsm_obama_bondage-248x197.jpg)

OK, i gotta know what your google image search terms were for that.
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: debk on October 23, 2009, 02:35:42 PM
Oh My. The things you can find on the interwebz !!!!

(http://www.n-shit.com/sitebuilder/images/bdsm_obama_bondage-248x197.jpg)

thank God I'd already swallowed the water I just took a sip of or I would have had a mess to clean up....
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: thundley4 on October 23, 2009, 02:36:53 PM
OK, i gotta know what your google image search terms were for that.

Obama bdsm   http://images.google.com/images?rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS291US303&sourceid=chrome&q=obama%20bdsm&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: TheSarge on October 23, 2009, 02:42:00 PM
I gotta know.  Has ANYONE asked these folks why they don't like Fox News?  I know they hate it but I can't figure out why.

Fox is more centrist than the rest of the media but they still aren't 'right'.  I see both sides of issues presented on Fox more often than I see it presented on any other channels ....

Can any of those folks cite specific instances of things Fox has done they don't care for?

KC

1) Exposing Van Jones

2) Exposing ACORN
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: debk on October 23, 2009, 02:43:21 PM
1) Exposing Van Jones

2) Exposing ACORN


geesh....just had to go straight for the details, didn't ya?


 :tongue:
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: thundley4 on October 23, 2009, 02:47:59 PM

geesh....just had to go straight for the details, didn't ya?


 :tongue:

Let's go back to the beginning. MONICA LEWINSKI.
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: debk on October 23, 2009, 02:49:00 PM
Let's go back to the beginning. MONICA LEWINSKI.

Monica was exposed?

I thought it was Slick Willy that was exposed......
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: Traveshamockery on October 23, 2009, 03:02:39 PM
Haha.. can you imagine the press conferences? A room full of tattooed and pierced reporters wearing bdsm leather gear.  :whatever:


H5!  Don't forget the body odor. 
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: dutch508 on October 23, 2009, 03:06:40 PM
Haha.. can you imagine the press conferences? A room full of tattooed and pierced reporters wearing bdsm leather gear.  :whatever:


Would that be SMNBC?
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: miskie on October 23, 2009, 03:50:59 PM
For the most part, the only segments on any of the news channels that are actually 'news', are the second string folks manning the anchor desk between the A list personalities who have shows.

The shows are commentary.

And that's what the White House doesn't like. Fox News' commentary folks are good at what they do, they attract a large audience which generates revenue for the parent company, and unlike all the other stations they don't swing left (for the most part). Therefore, center-right viewers tune in to get what the other stations don't offer.

So, when people watch news, the left tend to favor CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, Etc etc.  Everybody else goes to mainly one place for television news. Obama drowns Fox, and he wins.
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: ReaganForRushmore on October 23, 2009, 05:21:01 PM
Haha.. can you imagine the press conferences? A room full of tattooed and pierced reporters wearing bdsm leather gear.  :whatever:
Thanks,

now I have an eye worm of Helen Thomas in leather with a whip,

and Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman in BDSM gear with tingles going up their legs.
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: debk on October 23, 2009, 05:36:35 PM
Thanks,

now I have an eye worm of Helen Thomas in leather with a whip,

and Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman in BDSM gear with tingles going up their legs.

ewwwwwww........
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: Carl on October 23, 2009, 05:58:32 PM
I gotta know.  Has ANYONE asked these folks why they don't like Fox News?  I know they hate it but I can't figure out why.

Fox is more centrist than the rest of the media but they still aren't 'right'.  I see both sides of issues presented on Fox more often than I see it presented on any other channels ....

Can any of those folks cite specific instances of things Fox has done they don't care for?

KC

If not for the day we would not know what night was.

Fox along with Rush and Internet sites have opened up the public debate that was completely owned by the left for generations.

They hate that they have lost that and Fox is just a name and entity to focus that hate on.
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: BlueStateSaint on October 23, 2009, 06:03:22 PM
If not for the day we would not know what night was.

Fox along with Rush and Internet sites have opened up the public debate that was completely owned by the left for generations.

They hate that they have lost that and Fox is just a name and entity to focus that hate on.

Dead on, neighbor.  (Are you going deer hunting NZ tomorrow?)
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: Carl on October 23, 2009, 06:06:06 PM
Dead on, neighbor.  (Are you going deer hunting NZ tomorrow?)

No,been doing winter preperation here,cut down some big trees today for firewood and hoping to have the winters worth put up by the time southern zone opens next month.
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: franksolich on October 23, 2009, 06:06:59 PM
Dead on, neighbor.  (Are you going deer hunting NZ tomorrow?)

Wow.  New York must start deer hunting season early.

Ours here in Nebraska doesn't open up until mid-November.....although due to the surplus of deer, this year Nebraska had a special one-time one-week deer-hunting season in early October.
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: Carl on October 23, 2009, 06:15:11 PM
Wow.  New York must start deer hunting season early.

Ours here in Nebraska doesn't open up until mid-November.....although due to the surplus of deer, this year Nebraska had a special one-time one-week deer-hunting season in early October.

NY has a convlouted system of a northern zone/southern zone with bow and muzzleloader seasons attached.
Northern zone starts in October,southern late November with the other stuff intermixed.

Go figure huh? :whatever:
Title: Re: DU response to Obama's failed attempt to exclude Fox..
Post by: BlueStateSaint on October 23, 2009, 06:35:55 PM
NY has a convlouted system of a northern zone/southern zone with bow and muzzleloader seasons attached.
Northern zone starts in October,southern late November with the other stuff intermixed.

Go figure huh? :whatever:

Actually, and I'm pretty sure that Carl knows this (but didn't mention it, because a microscopic number of hunters actually bowhunt the Northern Zone), bowhunting season for deer begins at the end of September, but only if you've not killed one in bow season the last year.  If you have, it starts October 1st. 

It's "convoluted," "twisted," etc.  All I know is that I'll probably need a SCUBA tank to hunt tomorrow, as the camp I belong to is supposed to get an inch or so of rain tomorrow.  Got all my raingear out, ready for then.

To go back to the OP . . . Yes, the newsies actually did their job, which is to remain dispassionate and report the news.  They all know that if FNC is excluded, they could be next--for reasons that will not be explained to them, or explained very vaguely.  For once, they showed a spine.  They deserve this:

:clap: :clap: :clap: