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Title: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on July 23, 2011, 11:16:51 AM
Instead of me starting new threads on stories that are interesting but won't be found on DU, I thought maybe I should put them in just 1 thread?
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on July 23, 2011, 11:21:10 AM
OK, to start it off, some excerpts, entire article can be read at the link:

http://biggovernment.com/jpollak/2011/07/23/naacp-convention-in-shift-president-ben-jealous-highlights-cooperation-with-tea-party/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BigGovernment+%28Big+Government%29&utm_content=Twitter

NAACP Convention: In Shift, President Ben Jealous Highlights Cooperation With Tea Party

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At last year’s convention, the NAACP passed a resolution condemning racism in the Tea Party after claiming (falsely) for months that Tea Party members had used the “N-word” against members of the Congressional Black Caucus at an anti-ObamaCare rally on Capitol Hill in March 2010.

A year later, after the Tea Party helped lead Republicans to sweeping electoral victories in November 2010, the political landscape has changed nationwide–and so, apparently, has the NAACP’s rhetoric.

Today, at an introductory press conference, NAACP President and CEO Ben Jealous appeared to strike a conciliatory tone, highlighting areas of cooperation with the Tea Party and prominent conservatives, even amidst broad policy disagreements.

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In the brief question-and-answer session that followed, a local reporter asked Jealous to respond to plans by a Tea Party group in predominantly black South Central Los Angeles to protest against the NAACP on Sunday.

He brushed aside the question with a dose of humor–and a hint that the NAACP’s attitude had changed: “You know, at a certain level, I think we take a bit of pride in helping to diversify the Tea Party.”

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Jealous focused on the theme of the conference, “Affirming America’s Promise,” and highlighted problems with unemployment, incarceration, and poor education in the black community. Despite growing, and overwhelming, evidence that left-wing approaches to these problems are making them worse–and hurting black families most–it’s clear that the NAACP remains committed to big government policies and to its big labor allies.

It’s also apparent that the NAACP expects to weigh in on President Barack Obama’s side in debates with Republicans over the debt ceiling, with Jealous criticizing what he called the “obstructionists” in Congress. He also castigated states that had passed voter ID laws, favored by many Tea Party activists.

Yet Jealous sought to avoid direct confrontation with the Tea Party. It is a sign of the Tea Party movement’s new power–and, with that power, new respect.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on July 23, 2011, 11:32:31 AM
So this begs the question, why the shift in the NAACP's stance against the Tea Party? could it be they see the Tea Party as relevant contrary to those on the left who dismiss it? would the NAACP try to find common ground with an organization that's "racist"? I think not, and is the NAACP seeing that the black community has been hurt more than any other community in the downturn of the economy?
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: franksolich on July 23, 2011, 11:38:19 AM
So this begs the question, why the shift in the NAACP's stance against the Tea Party? could it be they see the Tea Party as relevant contrary to those on the left who dismiss it? would the NAACP try to find common ground with an organization that's "racist"? I think not, and is the NAACP seeing that the black community has been hurt more than any other community in the downturn of the economy?

I suspect it's because the NAACP is starting, unlike other Democrat, liberal, and primitive groups, to see what a force the Tea Party is, and perhaps coming to the quite reasonable conclusion that it would be better to cooperate rather than villify.

Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on July 23, 2011, 11:41:34 AM
I suspect it's because the NAACP is starting, unlike other Democrat, liberal, and primitive groups, to see what a force the Tea Party is, and perhaps coming to the quite reasonable conclusion that it would be better to cooperate rather than villify.

Oh! so you think the constant vitriol over the Tea Party being insignificant and irrelevant is basically an acknowledgment that they are significant and a stronger force than they're willing to admit? I thought so!
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: franksolich on July 23, 2011, 11:47:55 AM
Well, it's too much to expect that the NAACP is going to abandon its fondness for the Lyndon Johnson "Great Society" and "War on Poverty" policies and programs, or its automatic support of Democrat office-seekers, but this is a glimmer, a sign that the NAACP is starting to realize that reactionary old attitudes and policies don't work, and hurt the poor the most of all.

I see it as an opening; how far it'll open, only God knows, but remember, it had been shut tightly before.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: GOBUCKS on July 23, 2011, 11:48:22 AM
I suspect it's because the NAACP is starting, unlike other Democrat, liberal, and primitive groups, to see what a force the Tea Party is, and perhaps coming to the quite reasonable conclusion that it would be better to cooperate rather than villify.
Any conciliatory words from a NAACP guy is just confirmation of the James Carville maxim that if you drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park it's hard tellng what you might find. I detect the sweet aroma of a gratuity.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: franksolich on July 23, 2011, 11:51:03 AM
Any conciliatory words from a NAACP guy is just confirmation of the James Carville maxim that if you drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park it's hard tellng what you might find. I detect the sweet aroma of a gratuity.

Could be, but best to keep a Pollyanna attitude about it until proven otherwise.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: jukin on July 23, 2011, 04:22:05 PM
Could be that the NAACP might actually be looking out for colored people instead of pushing liberalism.

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African-American unemployment at 16 percent

Which as we all know means that the real black unemployment rate is north of 30%.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/19/eveningnews/main20072425.shtml

[q]For young men of color, especially black males in New York City, things are especially bad. According to the think tank, the Community Service Society, 34 percent of New York's young black men age 19 to 24 are not working. [/q]
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: GOBUCKS on July 23, 2011, 06:12:15 PM
Could be that the NAACP might actually be looking out for colored people instead of pushing liberalism.

Which as we all know means that the real black unemployment rate is north of 30%.
[q]For young men of color, especially black males in New York City, things are especially bad. According to the think tank, the Community Service Society, 34 percent of New York's young black men age 19 to 24 are not working. [/q]

If you have 34% unemployed, plus 30-40% in the slammer, that doesn't leave many to work.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on July 27, 2011, 07:21:29 PM
Heard an interesting interview this afternoon with Major Garrett, he said that Obama has told Harry Reid that the 1 thing he wants in raising the debt ceiling talks is this, he just wants the debt ceiling to be raised until after the election, he doesn't want debt ceiling talks to be going on around that time, that was it, that's the only thing he cares about, and cuts are on the table.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: delilahmused on July 27, 2011, 10:42:09 PM
Maybe they're starting to realize they've been sold down the river (or levees in the case of New Orleans). With the ever growing prominence of black Republicans maybe they're getting a picture of how their life COULD be if they'd quit being willing victims of the lefts condescending slavery.

Cindie
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 02, 2011, 11:22:23 AM
Can you imagine a conservative saying this?

Biden jokes Giffords is in 'cracked head club'

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/08/gabrielle-giffords-joe-biden-cracked-head-club-/1?csp=34news
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Chris_ on August 02, 2011, 11:24:07 AM
And Obama's Impeachment Insurance Policy pays another dividend.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: AllosaursRus on August 02, 2011, 01:00:44 PM
Oh! so you think the constant vitriol over the Tea Party being insignificant and irrelevant is basically an acknowledgment that they are significant and a stronger force than they're willing to admit? I thought so!

If we irrelevant, do ya think they would spend so much time tryin' to downgrade our influence?

just sayin'..........Look how they treat Palin. If she weren't a threat, they wouldn't send 23 lawyers and reporters to Alaska in order to try and dig up dirt before the last election.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 02, 2011, 02:11:43 PM
If you have 34% unemployed, plus 30-40% in the slammer, that doesn't leave many to work.

PERSPECTIVE: World War I became an economic crippler for the belligerents when >10% of the male, working-age population became mobilized.


Maybe they're starting to realize they've been sold down the river (or levees in the case of New Orleans). With the ever growing prominence of black Republicans maybe they're getting a picture of how their life COULD be if they'd quit being willing victims of the lefts condescending slavery.

Cindie

I'm hoping that what is, by appearances, an overture of mere political expedience, turns into a genuine social awakening within the next generation or two.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 04, 2011, 08:22:21 AM
Thanks to Sybilll for this:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/08/unions-outraged-that-white-house-hired-non-union-workers-for-obamas-birthday-bash/

UNION MEMBERS OUTRAGED After White House Hires Non-Union Crew For Obama’s Birthday Bash

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A confidential and trusted union source contacted me today to report that the crews called in to work Obama’s birthday bash are non-union. Union members are OUTRAGED that Obama would turn his back on them.

-Continued at the link-

Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 04, 2011, 09:31:42 PM
Thanks to Battle Hymn for being of service to provide the news that's suppressed at DU.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=45290

Liberal Pollster's Devastating Memo to Obama: Join the Tea Party

by  Wynton C. Hall
08/04/2011

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If President Obama needed any more indication of how much his public support has eroded, he need look no further than a recent memorandum of sorts published in the New York Times by former President Bill Clinton’s pollster, Stanley Greenberg.  Listen to Greenberg, whose progressive polling firm partners with Clinton strategist James Carville, advise Obama and Democrats on what his latest round of polls and focus groups reveal are their only hope to survive politically, given the current reality:

“Voters in the developed world are turning away from Democrats, Socialists, liberals and progressives.”

“Voters feel ever more estranged from government—and they associate Democrats with government.”

“If they are to win trust, and votes, Democrats must show they are as determined as the Tea Party movement to change the rules of the game."

“This distrust of government and politicians is unfolding as a full-blown crisis of legitimacy [and] sidelines Democrats and liberalism."

Greenberg says that his public opinion research now reveals that voters believe, “Government rushes to help the irresponsible and does little for the responsible."

To win, Democrats must “advocate policies that would control the borders and address problems of undocumented workers,” and voters want to “see strong enforcement at the border and in the workplace, and the expulsion of troublesome undocumented immigrants."

“Finally, progressives have to be serious about reducing the country’s long-term deficits” because “the deficit matters to people and has real meaning and consequences.”

<snipped>

-Continued at the link-

Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 05, 2011, 06:12:11 PM
Uh Oh! Chicago White Sox Manager Ozzie Guillén challenges Sean Penn to go to Venezuela and live in his hometown for 2 years and then see how he feels about Hugo Chavez!

[youtube=425,350]y-LJLdMWZ_w[/youtube]
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 07, 2011, 07:28:02 AM
Uh Oh! Wisconsin Democrats in meltdown mode. BTW the comments at the link are awesome.

http://www.wisconsinreporter.com/wisconsin-democrats-threaten-wisconsin-reporter

Wisconsin Democrats threaten Wisconsin Reporter
August 5th, 2011

By Wisconsin Reporter

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MADISON — Clearly not pleased with Wisconsin Reporter’s news coverage, a spokesman for the Democratic Party of Wisconsin on Friday sent a tersely worded email to Wisconsin Reporter, threatening to let loose party “activists” in a campaign to expose the news bureau’s “obvious bias.”

First Amendment experts call the party spokesman’s threats petulant and “out there,” asserting that the official’s threat to influence the status of Wisconsin Reporter’s statehouse credentials borders on free speech suppression.

Graeme Zielinski, communications director for Wisconsin’s Democrats, criticized a Wisconsin Reporter staffer about a recent interview conducted by the Heritage Foundation with Gov. Scott Walker.

Zielinski was quoted in the Wisconsin Reporter’s story about the interview saying the Walker administration’s proclamation of economic victory is “right-wing fantasy, a total lie.”

Wisconsin’s economy created 9,500 jobs in June, more than half of the total 18,000 positions added nationwide, according to the U.S. Department of labor.

Zielinski pointed to neighbor Illinois as outpacing Wisconsin’s economy. The Land of Lincoln, however, shed 18,900 jobs in June, pushing the state’s total jobless to north of 600,000.

“In your Walker water-carrying article, you made all sorts of arguments for Scott Walker, then used a snippet of my quote, and then used apposite information to debate me. IN MY OWN QUOTE. I’ve never seen that before in my life,” Zielinski wrote in the email to the staff writer.

In short, Zielinski said Wisconsin Reporter is some kind of shill for the Republican Party and isn’t balanced in its news coverage.

Then, the Democratic Party spokesman goes on to write “What happens next.”

“What happens next is that I contact the publishers and editors of the papers that publish you as ‘unbiased,’ and let them know our deep concern about the obvious bias that permeates your entire operation,” Zielinski states in his email.

“Then, we let our activists know which papers publish you, and they write the publisher and editor. Then, we contact the Capitol press pool and let them know about our concerns about your credentialing.

“And we continue on until you actually admit to the truth of your operation.”

What is the “truth of the operation?”

Jason Stverak, president of the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, the nonprofit open government advocate that owns and operates Wisconsin Reporter and several other news agencies like it in the U.S., calls Zielinski’s assertions “factually incorrect.”

“Wisconsin Reporter’s content is trusted by tens of thousands of individuals in Wisconsin who get our stories, whether through our newspaper partners, our website, or they read it on Facebook or Twitter,” Stverak said. “The people of Wisconsin have come to rely on Wisconsin Reporter for trustworthy and credible content so they know what’s going on, not only in Madison but across the state.”

Wisconsin Reporter, which launched operations late last year, distributes its news products to more than a dozen daily newspapers throughout Wisconsin and northeast Iowa.

“But just because you disagree with a story does not mean you should be able to threaten the ability for that news organization to put out credible news content,” the executive said, calling the Democratic Party spokesman’s statements to Wisconsin Reporter a “direct threat” to the freedom of the press at large.

“The people of Wisconsin and citizens across the country rely on the ability of a free press to not only provide them information of what’s going on in government but of the principal actors in government,” Stverak said.

First Amendment experts have their concerns, too.

Beth Bennett, executive director of the Wisconsin Newspapers Association, served 20-plus years in government relations in the often politically rancorous state of Illinois, and she said she has never seen anything like Zielinski’s email to Wisconsin Reporter.

“To have a party official put something in writing like that is pretty out there,” she said. “I’ve seen a lot of emotions. Politics are bubbling to the surface in a way we don’t normally see with editorial products, but this is uncharted territory.”

Kenneth Bunting, executive director of the National Freedom of Information Coalition and the Missouri School of Journalism, said most of Zielinski’s threats are petulant but not pure attacks on the First Amendment.

“I’m not a gambling man, but I’m betting he’s going to back down on telling the publishers of the papers you serve that you suck before you go out of business,” Bunting said.

Where the Democratic Party spokesman stood as of Friday evening was unclear; he did not return a phone call and emails from Wisconsin Reporter seeking comment.

The more serious challenge, Bunting said, is the threat to affect Wisconsin Reporter’s press credentials to cover Capitol news.

Below is Graeme Zielinski email to Wisconsin Reporter Bureau Chief M.D. Kittle

<Continued at the link>
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 09, 2011, 11:54:15 AM
Heard a London rioter being interviewed by the BBC, she said we're just showing the police and the rich people that we can do this. Rush had a great commentary about that girls comment, these people are given free healthcare, they basically live in a socialist utopia when it comes to things like benefits, and they basically become dependent on the handouts instead of going off on their own and taking care of themselves, then when the gravy train basically runs dry you see this.

Also interesting that the girl rioter justified burning down businesses because rich people own them, Mom and Pop shops are rich people? they're suffering and going to continue to suffer from this fallout.

Sound familiar?
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 09, 2011, 05:04:07 PM
TAX BREAKS SPUR BUSINESS

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(Reuters) - Arkansans shopped until they dropped on Saturday, braving temperatures deep into the triple-digits to take advantage of the state's first sales tax holiday weekend.

"I have never seen anything like this," said Clancy Graham, a manager at Little Rock's RK Collections Boutique, an independently owned store. "If we could do this three times a year, it would be amazing. It has done crazy good stuff for our business."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/08/us-arkansas-taxholiday-idUSTRE7773GY20110808
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 09, 2011, 05:21:57 PM
TAX BREAKS SPUR BUSINESS

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/08/us-arkansas-taxholiday-idUSTRE7773GY20110808

:cheersmate:
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 09, 2011, 07:16:46 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/127339738.html

Sky isn't falling

Gov. Scott Walker's so-called tools will help at least some local governments deal with cuts in state aid. Tough choices and pain remain, but give the governor some credit.

Aug. 9, 2011 6:13 p.m.

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So it turns out that the sky isn't going to fall on all local governments in Wisconsin. The numbers now starting to come in show that Gov. Scott Walker's "tools" for local governments apparently will help at least some of them deal with cuts in state aid imposed by the state budget.

That's contrary to the expectation and the rhetoric of critics in the spring, and it's to Walker's credit. It bears out the governor's assessment of his budget-repair bill, although we still maintain he could have reached his goals without dealing a body blow to public employee unions.

Local government officials also need to keep in mind that not all governments will share equally - Milwaukee County is one example - and that tough choices remain. And state legislators should make adjustments in any follow-on budget-repair bill to make sure that any pain is fairly shared.

But the news is good for many. The latest example is Milwaukee, where the most recent estimates show the city with a net gain of at least $11 million for its 2012 budget. That will take a slice out of the city's structural deficit, which is created by costs rising faster than revenue, and will reduce cuts that Mayor Tom Barrett and the Common Council must impose.

The city projects it will save at least $25 million a year - the figure could be as high as $36 million in 2012 - from health care benefit and pension changes it didn't have to negotiate with unions because of the changes wrought by the new law that ended most collective bargaining for most public employees.

That certainly will help the city deal with the $14 million in cuts in state aid in the 2011-'13 state budget.

City officials were loath to give Walker any credit. "It's a false question," Barrett said when asked whether Walker was right in his contention that his bargaining changes more than offset the impact of his aid cuts. Barrett said most people would agree that public employees should pay more of their health care and pension costs, but Walker didn't have to eliminate almost all of their collective bargaining power to do it.

Barrett's right on that point. And it's true that some local governments will see more pain than gain. But Walker does deserve some credit for balancing the state budget without putting everything on the backs of local taxpayers.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 10, 2011, 03:44:23 PM
ONLY GOVERNMENT CAN PROTECT US

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Federal officials said they turned up a dangerous form of salmonella at a Cargill Inc. turkey plant last year, and then four times this year at stores selling the Cargill turkey, but didn't move for a recall until an outbreak killed one person and sickened 77 others.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/08/10/government-knew-about-bacteria-in-turkey/#ixzz1Uf308OyF

IIRC - Cargill initiated the recall before the government ordered one.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: thundley4 on August 10, 2011, 04:23:20 PM
ONLY GOVERNMENT CAN PROTECT US

IIRC - Cargill initiated the recall before the government ordered one.

Could that be why there are spinners out saying that salmonella is not as dangerous as other contaminants?  Trying to save face for the government for not doing their job?
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Rugnuts on August 10, 2011, 07:11:06 PM
if i ate ground turkey, which i have not tried, and i cooked it to the recommended temperature, would i not kill the salmonella???

and i heard that cargill has had positive salmonella tests in the last year but it wasnt a concern. im thinking there is an "acceptable level" which their tests maintained so they did not stop production.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 10, 2011, 07:32:06 PM
Long article but good, just a snippet of the article, the rest can be read at the link.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2024284/UK-riots-2011-Liberal-dogma-spawned-generation-brutalised-youths.html

Years of liberal dogma have spawned a generation of amoral, uneducated, welfare dependent, brutalised youngsters

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They have no code of values to dissuade them from behaving anti-socially or, indeed, criminally, and small chance of being punished if they do so.

They have no sense of responsibility for themselves, far less towards others, and look to no future beyond the next meal, sexual encounter or TV football game.

They are an absolute deadweight upon society, because they contribute nothing yet cost the taxpayer billions. Liberal opinion holds they are victims, because society has failed to provide them with opportunities to develop their potential.

Most of us would say this is nonsense. Rather, they are victims of a perverted social ethos, which elevates personal freedom to an absolute, and denies the underclass the discipline — tough love — which alone might enable some of its members to escape from the swamp of dependency in which they live.

Only education — together with politicians, judges, policemen and teachers with the courage to force feral humans to obey rules the rest of us have accepted all our lives — can provide a way forward and a way out for these people.

They are products of a culture which gives them so much unconditionally that they are let off learning how to become human beings. My dogs are better behaved and subscribe to a higher code of values than the young rioters of Tottenham, Hackney, Clapham and Birmingham.



Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 11, 2011, 07:08:18 AM
Years of liberal dogma have spawned a generation of amoral, uneducated, welfare dependent, brutalised youngsters





Generally, a high-speed interface of flesh and lead tends to correct this.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Karin on August 11, 2011, 12:39:57 PM
Ballygrl, concerning your post about the Wisconsin Reporter, those comments were awesome!  One commenter wanted to disseminate the following, so I bring it here:

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Kevin Commins
Posted August 6, 2011 at 11:34 am | Permalink
Zielinski posted on twitter a few weeks ago:

“It’s Medicare’s 45th birthday. Celebrate by punching a Republican”

Well GZ. What happens is next: I post your comments inciting violence against Republicans and your threats against the press far and wide

WI finally getting tired of union thuggery. 
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 11, 2011, 01:11:13 PM
Amazing Karin, and we're the "violent" ones?
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 11, 2011, 06:09:48 PM
Advice you should heed but of course you won't. In reference to a few disruptors at the Romney event:

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Jim Lane  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-11-11 05:10 PM
Response to Original message
14. Sorry, but I don't find it particularly awesome.
   
Most of the people in the audience were just venting. I agree with a lot of what they said, but it wasn't any kind of reasoned exchange.

Undecided voters who watch this clip would be likely to come away feeling some sympathy for Romney.

It may make you feel good to shout people down and sound like lunatics, but do you really think the average American would side with you? NO!
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 14, 2011, 01:45:22 PM
Uh Oh!

http://www.gallup.com/CustomPages/Daily.aspx?site=WWW&space=WWWHPRIBBON

Obama Job Approval
Approve 39%

Disapprove 54%

U.S. Employment
Underemployed 18.2%

Unemployed 9.0%

Economic Conditions
Excellent/Good 8%

Poor 53%

Economic Outlook
Getting Better 17%

Getting Worse 79%


Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 15, 2011, 11:38:01 PM
http://biggovernment.com/mpolege/2011/08/15/move-on-up-org-stepping-outside-the-template/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+BigGovernment+(Big+Government)

Move-On-Up.org: Stepping Outside the Template

<snipped> here's some highlights, the rest can be read at the link:

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Move-On-Up.org describes their Mission in 3 parts:

1. “…to have a centralized meeting place for African-Americans to network, share ideas, and let the closet conservatives among us know that they are NOT ALONE.”

2. “…to grow a true grassroots movement, unbureaucratic organization that will be a needed force on the national scene to advance our agenda within the national debate.”

3. “…to find tomorrow’s future leaders and candidates for elected office at the local, state, and federal levels. Move-On-Up.org’s 527 PAC will provide the infrastructure for the moral and financial support necessary so that these candidates can wage credible, winning campaigns.”

They also describe their 5 founding principles as such:
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Renewing our Economy – Our goal is to empower the African American people by expanding employment and entrepreneurial opportunities.

Health Care Reform – Health care is a personal issue, and informed individuals can make better decisions about their own care than government.

Securing our borders – We need to gain control of our borders and enforce our immigration laws while encouraging legal immigrants who come seeking the American Dream.

Education – Education, while a national priority, is a local responsibility. We believe that parents, teachers, and local school boards are the key to true education reform — not big government. We support school choice initiatives such as vouchers, charters schools and homeschooling.

Strengthening our families – We uphold and respect traditional institutions such as marriage between a man and a woman. We are committed to protecting the life of innocents from conception through the infirmities of age. This value must be nurtured in both our culture and our laws.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 19, 2011, 01:06:08 PM
You believe in wealth distribution? how about GPA distribution?

http://exposingleftists.com/

[youtube=425,350]lOyaJ2UI7Ss[/youtube]
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 19, 2011, 03:20:40 PM
You believe in wealth distribution? how about GPA distribution?
That reminds me of a guy I know who calculated his average phone number.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 19, 2011, 03:29:29 PM
That reminds me of a guy I know who calculated his average phone number.

I have no idea what that means LOL.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on August 30, 2011, 11:09:52 AM
Heads up! Cheney being interviewed by Rush at 1PM EST.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 10, 2011, 03:49:51 PM
People are trying to get a flash mob going at the 9/11 ceremony tomorrow, when Mayor Bloomberg speaks they're hoping everyone will start singing Amazing Grace.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Revolution on September 10, 2011, 04:02:02 PM
^That would be excellent! Just drown the miserable  :censored: out.

I'm not the violent type unless provoked, but speaking of the various ceremonies, BG, there was an article in the paper yesterday about a local Troofer. Crazy dude believes all kinds of other whacked out stuff too. They actually cited some of his beliefs in bullet points. They also quoted him as saying he is unsure if he's going to the ceremony of rememberence tomorrow at a local park. I know I'll be there. However, if this guy is there, and he starts any kind of bovine scatology, I will indeed consider it provocation. Pissing on the memories of so many fallen, and so many more who will never be the same.

I just really hope he doesn't show tomorrow...
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 10, 2011, 05:49:27 PM
^That would be excellent! Just drown the miserable  :censored: out.

I'm not the violent type unless provoked, but speaking of the various ceremonies, BG, there was an article in the paper yesterday about a local Troofer. Crazy dude believes all kinds of other whacked out stuff too. They actually cited some of his beliefs in bullet points. They also quoted him as saying he is unsure if he's going to the ceremony of rememberence tomorrow at a local park. I know I'll be there. However, if this guy is there, and he starts any kind of bovine scatology, I will indeed consider it provocation. Pissing on the memories of so many fallen, and so many more who will never be the same.

I just really hope he doesn't show tomorrow...

I was youtubing a bunch of 9/11 things last night and ran across a few truthers, the wimps, they disabled comments on their youtubes.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Revolution on September 10, 2011, 06:05:05 PM
Yep. That's usually the way of them. Cover their ears, and scream "lalalalalalala!" in an effort to conceal ACTUAL truth.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 10, 2011, 07:17:51 PM
Yep. That's usually the way of them. Cover their ears, and scream "lalalalalalala!" in an effort to conceal ACTUAL truth.

The divorcee living above me is a partial troofer.  She thinks that the Pentagon was hit by a missile.  I told her that I thought that she was crazy.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 10, 2011, 07:23:00 PM
The divorcee living above me is a partial troofer.  She thinks that the Pentagon was hit by a missile.  I told her that I thought that she was crazy.
'

What idiots! what do they think happened to Barbara Olson?
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: redwhit on September 10, 2011, 09:51:24 PM
'

What idiots! what do they think happened to Barbara Olson?

One of the more asinine troofers says they're in Aruba now.  No doubt being entertained by Elvis and Jim Morrison.

 :mental:
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 10, 2011, 10:42:32 PM
One of the more asinine troofers says they're in Aruba now. 
Impossible. Nancy Grace would have found them by now.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: redwhit on September 12, 2011, 12:56:51 PM
Impossible. Nancy Grace would have found them by now.

Truly outstanding!   :lol:
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 14, 2011, 12:46:11 PM
Looks like Conservatives have taken over Obama's "snitch on your fellow Americans" Twitter account :lmao:

http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23attackwatch
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Karin on September 14, 2011, 12:52:18 PM
Can you quote some of it?  I can't get there from here, as they say in Maine. 
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 14, 2011, 01:09:17 PM
Can you quote some of it?  I can't get there from here, as they say in Maine.

Sure! this is from The Hill, when you get home you have to go to the Twitter link, the posts are :lmao:

http://thehill.com/blogs/twitter-room/other-news/181413-new-pro-obama-hashtag-backfires-on-twitter

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Pro-Obama hashtag backfires on Twitter
By Alicia M. Cohn - 09/14/11 10:04 AM ET

A new Twitter hashtag designed to help fight misinformation against President Obama appears to have backfired in early use on Wednesday.

President Obama's Twitter feed, which is run by his campaign staff, on Tuesday evening started promoting the new website AttackWatch.com and hashtag #AttackWatch, designed to fight misinformation against the president.

The hashtag was already in heavy rotation by Twitter users by Wednesday morning, but many users are conservatives such as columnist Michelle Malkin, who offered up her own daily column as an example of an Obama "attack."

The website is meant to be "the first line of defense against a barrage of misinformation," according to an email from Obama's campaign manager announcing the launch on Tuesday.

Businessman Herman Cain, a Republican presidential hopeful, also responded to the announcement of the website on Wednesday.

"Seriously?" he tweeted.

Here are a few Tweets to show you what people are doing :lmao:

#AttackWatch There's a new Twitter account making President Obama look like a creepy, authoritarian nutjob: @AttackWatch
16 hours ago

#attackwatch complaints cannot include any of the following: Muslims Extremist, Black Panthers, Unions, or Illegals.
20 minutes ago

Someone should ask Team Obama how they think #attackwatch is going to far. It's been a non-stop mockfest since it was unveiled
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 14, 2011, 01:12:04 PM
Rush is talking about the Twitter now saying Conservatives are swamping Obama's tattletale site and the site is probably getting people's e-mail addresses.

OMG! 60 new Tweets in the past minute :lmao:
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: thundley4 on September 14, 2011, 01:14:09 PM
Some of the threads on DU should be reported for undermining Dear Leader.   :fuelfire:
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 14, 2011, 01:14:46 PM
A few more of the Tweets :lmao:

Hey #attackwatch I just looked at a map of the U.S. Someone has stolen 7 of the 57 States!
1 minute ago

Dear #attackwatch Seems that lots of people are not taking you very seriously, in fact once again your campaign looks like paranoid idiots

#attackwatch patrolling the skies on my jet plane!!.... yep yep!
1 minute ago

Attention #attackwatch family........I now have 17 followers,....which is 17 more friends than can remember Obama from college.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 14, 2011, 01:16:33 PM
OMG! 80 new Tweets in the past minute :lmao:

Why isn't DU talking about this?
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Chris_ on September 14, 2011, 01:39:36 PM
How is this any different from the previous attempt, flag@whitehouse.gov?  Other than one being an email inbox and the other is a Twitter account.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: thundley4 on September 14, 2011, 01:46:17 PM
How is this any different from the previous attempt, flag@whitehouse.gov?  Other than one being an email inbox and the other is a Twitter account.

Not one bit of difference.

(http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/inform.jpg?w=449&h=672)
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Erasmus on September 14, 2011, 01:53:43 PM
Dear AttackWatch,

I'd like to file a report, though I fear for my safety in doing so.  I've seen an individual, a member of a terrorist political organization, destroy millions of jobs, eliminate trillions of dollars of value from the stock market, host mooslim dinner parties in public buildings, change foreign policy to an anti-Jewish policy, threaten to raise taxes, and actively supports Al Queda in Libya.  He spends money like a drunken sailor (no offense to drunken sailors) without worrying about how to pay for the expense.  He's often seen with some sort of big, ugly, dog-looking creature with a really large ass who constantly pisses and defecates on America and its flag.  I believe this creature to be female, but I am not positive.  I think these persons represent credible threats to the welfare and security of the country.

Proudly doing my patriotic duty,
Erasmus B. Hughs
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 14, 2011, 01:57:38 PM
How is this any different from the previous attempt, flag@whitehouse.gov?  Other than one being an email inbox and the other is a Twitter account.

Character limit?

 O-)
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Karin on September 14, 2011, 01:59:37 PM
Thanks a million, Ballygrl!  That Flag@whitehouse bombed as well. 

There's a thread in GD here, questioning whether the site and twitter account are satire (must be?)  I directed them to your thread here. 
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 14, 2011, 03:27:40 PM
How is this any different from the previous attempt, flag@whitehouse.gov?  Other than one being an email inbox and the other is a Twitter account.

It's not really different at all except that this time they have a Website and a Twitter.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: redwhit on September 15, 2011, 08:08:15 AM
How is this any different from the previous attempt, flag@whitehouse.gov?  Other than one being an email inbox and the other is a Twitter account.

This one is waaaaaaay funnier.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 15, 2011, 10:19:30 AM
Paulsy Krugman, c. 1997

Quote
In practice it has turned out to be strongly redistributionist, but only because of its Ponzi game aspect, in which each generation takes more out than it put in. Well, the Ponzi game will soon be over, thanks to changing demographics, so that the typical recipient henceforth will get only about as much as he or she put in (and today’s young may well get less than they put in).

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/paul-krugman-social-security-ponzi-scheme-and-will-soon-be-over
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Doubleplusungood on September 16, 2011, 12:59:10 AM
Looks like Conservatives have taken over Obama's "snitch on your fellow Americans" Twitter account :lmao:

http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23attackwatch
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZPwDRZ6pTM&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 16, 2011, 02:16:24 PM
Venting!

Will you please just shut-up with your freaking whining all the time, you're annoying to me, annoying to conservatives, and annoying to your fellow Americans who are going through a hard time, and at least if you have to whine please remove the words Bush and Republicans from your vocabulary!

This Country was doing fine until the Democrats took over Congress in 07, unemployment started going up as did spending, and Bush's fault was not vetoing every spending bill that came through.

Home Mortgages were basically doing fine until "Democrats" wanted everyone to own a home not taking into account that Home Ownership is a responsibility that not every American is equipped to handle!

Stop whining about student loans, don't take the easy way out, get a job and go to school at the same time, who says you have to graduate in 4 years!

Face it, you're in the Minority when it comes to opinion, stop acting as if your opinion is the majority opinion!

And please, do us a favor, and get the cooking and baking forum back on track, I need a distraction from your whining about all the above.

Thanks!
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: franksolich on September 16, 2011, 02:20:10 PM
Face it, you're in the Minority when it comes to opinion, stop acting as if your opinion is the majority opinion!

Amen.

Quote
And please, do us a favor, and get the cooking and baking forum back on track, I need a distraction from your whining about all the above.


Amen.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Karin on September 16, 2011, 03:11:11 PM
To Frank:

Oh My!  That is all.  And yes, yes they would. 
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: franksolich on September 16, 2011, 04:38:53 PM
To Frank:

Oh My!  That is all.  And yes, yes they would. 

Thank you, madam.

<<blushing.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Karin on September 20, 2011, 02:07:39 PM
Ballygrl, can I use your open thread to put this here?
Quote
Stargazer99  (934 posts)      Tue Sep-20-11 02:55 PM
Original message
this illustrates the ugly of conservative Republicons
 Yesterday I learned from a lady in church that her neighbor with 2 small children and an infant has no electricity to the home. Washington State's assistance is very small. The various aid agencies are out of funds to be able to help. You damned conservative Republicans I'm sure have your electric and everything else. There must be a place in hell for you...I know you've made damn sure the low-income suffer and die if necessary. Godless (except your worship of mammon). Too bad Europe will never be aware of the misery, heartache and death in America otherwise you would not get away with denial. Jesus said by their fruits you will know them....the stench (from a corrupt, rotting society) is wrenching
DUmp Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1972000)

So I went to the US census,  Link (http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2011/tables/11s0411.pdf)and found that the Washington State legislature has 98 Dem reps (Upper & lower houses combined), vs. 55 Repubs.  Unchanged over 2010.  Perhaps Cindie will chance by this thread and comment.

(Does anyone know what that loon was talking about with the Europe stuff?) 


 
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: delilahmused on September 20, 2011, 03:22:28 PM
Ballygrl, can I use your open thread to put this here?DUmp Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1972000)

So I went to the US census,  Link (http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2011/tables/11s0411.pdf)and found that the Washington State legislature has 98 Dem reps (Upper & lower houses combined), vs. 55 Repubs.  Unchanged over 2010.  Perhaps Cindie will chance by this thread and comment.

(Does anyone know what that loon was talking about with the Europe stuff?) 

I don't know all that much about WA because I live in OR but I do know both states have liberal governments. Besides, they aren't going to deny a woman with 3 children unless she's not eligible because she earns too much money and is simply living above her means. Many churches have an emergency fund to help in situations like this. You don't even have to be a member. That's what Christians do...by their fruits and all that. Since we're not allowed to mention God in public perhaps it's simply that "Christian charity" has also been forgotten by the masses. They've been told for decades government should/will take care of them so they don't remember true giving isn't stolen from their paychecks before they have the money in their hand. Of course the fact that we're having to take care of people who are able bodied and quite capable of taking care of themselves means becomes sponging off the government has become a numbers game instead of the true humanity of man helping his fellow man.

Cindie


 

Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 20, 2011, 03:51:31 PM
Ballygrl, can I use your open thread to put this here?DUmp Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1972000)

So I went to the US census,  Link (http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2011/tables/11s0411.pdf)and found that the Washington State legislature has 98 Dem reps (Upper & lower houses combined), vs. 55 Repubs.  Unchanged over 2010.  Perhaps Cindie will chance by this thread and comment.

(Does anyone know what that loon was talking about with the Europe stuff?)

I have no problem at all if anyone wants to use this thread to inform the lesser informed.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 20, 2011, 03:52:48 PM
And WTF? Washington State is leftist, shouldn't they blame themselves?
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 20, 2011, 07:48:36 PM
Quote
I know you've made damn sure the low-income suffer and die if necessary.
Well, you know, DUmmy, that's just what they do, no matter which party is in charge.
Fish gotta swim
Birds gotta fly
Lazy moonbats suffer and die.
Sorry.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 20, 2011, 07:53:50 PM
Quote
Stargazer99  (934 posts)      Tue Sep-20-11 02:55 PM
Original message
this illustrates the ugly of conservative Republicons
 Yesterday I learned from a lady in church that her neighbor with 2 small children and an infant has no electricity to the home. Washington State's assistance is very small. The various aid agencies are out of funds to be able to help. You damned conservative Republicans I'm sure have your electric and everything else. There must be a place in hell for you...blah blah blah blahbitty blah

Hey, ya self-righteous bitch, at least we'll be warm!  And by the way, what did YOU do for the poor woman?
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Karin on September 21, 2011, 08:12:49 AM
 :lmao:  Thread killer.  No reply since. 

Quote
TaupeDem (37 posts)     Tue Sep-20-11 05:51 PM
Response to Original message
3. Disgusting, this is what happens when you have republican
 majorities in these states.

Sorry for mixing up OR and WA, Cindie.   :thatsright:  I visited both on the same trip once. 
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 21, 2011, 03:20:05 PM
Quote
TaupeDem (37 posts)     Tue Sep-20-11 05:51 PM
Response to Original message
3. Disgusting, this is what happens when you have republican
majorities in these states.


Good Lord! you'd think someone would point out to this fool that the Democrats are the majority in the State!
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 26, 2011, 12:13:48 PM
Obama told Blacks to get out of their "bedroom slippers" how come the left isn't outraged over that comment? Didn't Obama basically make the insinuation that Blacks are sitting home in their "bedroom slippers" and depending on Government?
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: thundley4 on September 26, 2011, 12:34:21 PM
Obama told Blacks to get out of their "bedroom slippers" how come the left isn't outraged over that comment? Didn't Obama basically make the insinuation that Blacks are sitting home in their "bedroom slippers" and depending on Government?

It isn't racist when a leftist uses a stereotype.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 26, 2011, 01:08:29 PM
It isn't racist when a leftist uses a stereotype.

Oh! just like "get pookie off the couch" wasn't insulting either because Obama said it.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Karin on September 26, 2011, 02:48:53 PM
That was on Rush, right?  I didn't get to catch all of it.  I was a little shocked.  But "put on your marching shoes," what sort of advice is that?  How about seek to better yourself, study hard, gain some skills, make yourself marketable.  Otherwise, they end up like the brainless, aimless NYC Wall Street protesters.  In jail.  Now what? 
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 26, 2011, 02:51:55 PM
That was on Rush, right?  I didn't get to catch all of it.  I was a little shocked.  But "put on your marching shoes," what sort of advice is that? 
I wonder if "marching shoes" is a DUmp euphemism for "loose shoes".
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: delilahmused on September 26, 2011, 03:00:06 PM
:lmao:  Thread killer.  No reply since. 

Sorry for mixing up OR and WA, Cindie.   :thatsright:  I visited both on the same trip once. 

That's okay, I've lived in both states and they're pretty much interchangeable except Seattle is trying to be San Francisco and Portland is trying to be Seattle.

Cindie
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 26, 2011, 03:47:33 PM
That was on Rush, right?  I didn't get to catch all of it.  I was a little shocked.  But "put on your marching shoes," what sort of advice is that?  How about seek to better yourself, study hard, gain some skills, make yourself marketable.  Otherwise, they end up like the brainless, aimless NYC Wall Street protesters.  In jail.  Now what?

The only thing I heard over the weekend was the "Jew" slip during a speech, and it was Rush who brought up the slippers comment. Can you imagine the media if Bush ever said things like that?
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: sybilll on September 26, 2011, 05:57:49 PM
Obama told Blacks to get out of their "bedroom slippers" how come the left isn't outraged over that comment? Didn't Obama basically make the insinuation that Blacks are sitting home in their "bedroom slippers" and depending on Government?
I honestly thought the liberals would have been far more insulted about the dialect Obama used.  He dropped all of the G's at the end of words, as though he was talking to a Compton audience that cannot understand proper English.  Harry Reid was right.  Obama can use his "negro dialect" when necessary, otherwise he speaks well.  UGH.  Double UGH. 
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 26, 2011, 07:19:27 PM
I honestly thought the liberals would have been far more insulted about the dialect Obama used.  He dropped all of the G's at the end of words, as though he was talking to a Compton audience that cannot understand proper English.  Harry Reid was right.  Obama can use his "negro dialect" when necessary, otherwise he speaks well.  UGH.  Double UGH.

Hillary did that too when she spoke in front of a black audience.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Chris_ on September 26, 2011, 07:21:32 PM
Hillary did that too when she spoke in front of a black audience.
"I ain't in no ways tired..." :whatever:

Democrats. They have a different speech for every audience. 
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 26, 2011, 07:24:56 PM
"I ain't in no ways tired..." :whatever:

Democrats. They have a different speech for every audience.

Here it is in case people forgot:

[youtube=425,350]DGDm4jkDbGQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Chris_ on September 26, 2011, 07:29:23 PM
It was almost as embarrassing as her getting all weepy during the 2008 race.  Boy, that was a low point.  I thought Hillary had more sense than that but it worked because a whole bunch of sorry dumbasses bought that one hook, line, and sinker.  I guess it was estrogen vs. melatonin that year, and we all know who the winner was.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 26, 2011, 08:04:12 PM
"I ain't in no ways tired..." :whatever:

Democrats. They have a different speech for every audience. 
Remember John F'n in Ohio: "Can I buy me a huntin' license?"
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 27, 2011, 02:06:01 PM
Quote
"Tainting the tea party movement with the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. There is no evidence that tea party adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other Americans. But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks and having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in November. Having one’s opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness."

--Mary Francis Berry--Professor of American Social Thought and History, U. Penn. Former chair of the Civil Right Commission, co-founder of the "Free South Africa Movement," winner of the NAACP's Roy Wilkins Award, the Rosa Parks Award of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and the Ebony Magazine Black Achievement Award.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: delilahmused on September 27, 2011, 04:05:13 PM
They probably didn't get upset because it was his black half speaking to them.

Cindie
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 28, 2011, 06:36:59 PM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/09/more-crony-socialism-obama-gives-737-million-to-pelosis-brother-in-laws-solar-firm/

Crony Socialism: Obama Gives $737 Million to Solar Firm Linked to the Pelosi Clan

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It’s as if Solyndra never happened.  The Obama Administration is giving $737 million to a Tonopah Solar, a subsidiary of California-based SolarReserve. PCG is an investment partner with SolarReserve. Nancy Pelosi’s brother-in-law happens to be the number two man at PCG.

<snipped>

Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 30, 2011, 06:11:14 PM
I searched for this info at DU and can't find it at all. My comment though is this, which party has Google and Apple supported more? Here's snippets from the article:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-29/google-joins-apple-mobilizing-lobbyists-to-push-for-tax-holiday-on-profits.html

Google Joins Apple in Push for Tax Holiday

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As a coalition led by Apple Inc. (AAPL), Google Inc. (GOOG), and Cisco Systems Inc. (CSCO) presses for a tax holiday on more than $1 trillion in offshore profits, it is turning to a well-positioned lobbyist: Jeffrey Forbes, once chief of staff to Max Baucus, chairman of the tax-writing Senate Finance Committee.


Quote
The proposed break has gained momentum in recent months, with several prominent Democrats, including Senator Charles Schumer of New York, expressing a willingness to consider the tax holiday.



Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on October 03, 2011, 08:10:49 PM
BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/02/bets_robert_johnson_to_obama_stop_attacking_the_wealthy.html

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BET founder Robert Johnson on the "FOX News Sunday" program: "Well, I think the president has to recalibrate his message. You don't get people to like you by attacking them or demeaning their success. You know, I grew up in a family of 10 kids, first one to go to college, and I've earned my success. I've earned my right to fly private if I choose to do so.

"And by attacking me it is not going to convince me that I should take a bigger hit because I happen to be wealthy. You know, it is the old -- I think Ted and Fred and I we both sort of take the old Ethel Merman approach to life. I've tried poor and I tried rich and I like rich better. It doesn't mean that I am a bad guy.

"I didn't go in to business to create a public policy success for either party, Republican or Democrat. I went in business to create jobs and opportunity, create opportunity, create value for myself and my investors. And that's what the president should be praising, not demagoguing us simply because Warren Buffet says he pays more than his secretary. He should pay the secretary more and she will pay more."
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on October 11, 2011, 08:40:13 AM
Some pics about the Occupy Wall Street protest:

(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj140/RepublicanandProud/Sheeple.jpg)

(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj140/RepublicanandProud/capitalism.png)
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 11, 2011, 09:51:16 AM
Economies are not zero-sum environments. They can expand to infinite breadth and depth so long as people produce things other people need and want.

Governments do not share this attribute. They exist only because they claim a portion of what others produce in order to sustain their functions. If they claim too much the producing class stops producing because it either becomes too expensive or the incentive is destroyed. This is turn folds back on to the government which now has even less economic activity available to levy taxes against.

One way for governments to be prodded into levying too many taxes is for citizens to demand additional services beyond the enforcement of civil order and public safety. As the services assumed by the government expand it must tax more. Worse still, the more services the government provides the harder it becomes to dislodge it once it becomes too burdensome as it will have either assumed so much pwoer it can retaliate against efforts to curtail its operations and/or the citizens have become so dependent upon it they will unduly suffer and thus be reluctant to demand reform.

Eventually, the government has become expansive it must levy taxes that stifle economic growth and in turn it will have less revenue potential.

As the spiral begins the original functions of government--public order and safety--will suffer because people will respond more immediately to having their home heating oil subsidy cut than considering the consequences of some abstraction such as being the victim of a crime.

To wit:

Quote
Cash-strapped Topeka, Kansas, has decided to stop prosecuting domestic violence casses [sic] in order to save money.

The City Council announced the proposal Oct. 4, after the Shawnee County District Attorney's office announced it could no longer prosecute misdemeanors, including domestic violence cases. The city's maneuver may even require repealing the part of the city code that bans domestic battery. Mayor Bill Bunten told the Topeka Capital-Journal city officials take domestic violence seriously, and it would be "dead wrong" to assume offenders won't be prosecuted. But the dispute is over who would pay for it, he said.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/weird/Cash-Strapped-Topeka-Stops-Prosecuting-Domestic-Violence-131468933.html

Hey, as long as Proud2BTenured gets to keep her union benefits who cares if some brute smacks around his wife and kids.

This is social justice, after all.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on October 11, 2011, 09:54:58 AM
OMG about not prosecuting domestic violence cases.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 11, 2011, 12:10:54 PM
Ya know, DUmbasses,

If you want us to believe your way is the better way it would help if you could show better results than what we're used to. Crony Crapitalism isn't the way to do that. Not only is it not capitalism (it's corporatist fascism) its not even effective at what it pretends to accomplish.

This will not help:

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The group of private-sector business leaders advising President Obama on how to create jobs and grow the economy is full of deep-pocket Democratic donors and high-profile financiers of Obama’s re-election campaign, a review of Federal Election Commission data shows.

At least 10 members of the Obama-appointed Council on Jobs and Competitiveness gave the legal maximum contribution — $4,600 — to help get Obama elected in 2008, and they continue to write checks for the president in 2012.  Several also serve as Obama campaign bundlers, top fundraisers who collect millions of dollars from their networks of well-to-do colleagues and friends to aid his re-election bid.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/obama-jobs-council-stacked-with-democratic-donors/
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on October 11, 2011, 02:05:27 PM
Oh My!

Democrats saying they kind of want to glom onto the Occupy Wall Street protests BUT you protesters really need to cut back on the anarchist, socialist, violent crap because you're going to turn off people who we need to vote for us!

Here's some snippets of the article, you can read the rest at the link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/11/us/politics/wall-street-protests-gain-support-from-leading-democrats.html?_r=3&partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=all

Protests Offer Help, and Risk, for Democrats

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WASHINGTON — Leading Democratic figures, including party fund-raisers and a top ally of President Obama, are embracing the spread of the anti-Wall Street protests in a clear sign that members of the Democratic establishment see the movement as a way to align disenchanted Americans with their party.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the party’s powerful House fund-raising arm, is circulating a petition seeking 100,000 party supporters to declare that “I stand with the Occupy Wall Street protests.”

The Center for American Progress, a liberal organization run by John D. Podesta, who helped lead Mr. Obama’s 2008 transition, credits the protests with tapping into pent-up anger over a political system that it says rewards the rich over the working class — a populist theme now being emphasized by the White House and the party. The center has encouraged and sought to help coordinate protests in different cities.


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But while some Democrats see the movement as providing a political boost, the party’s alignment with the eclectic mix of protesters makes others nervous. They see the prospect of the protesters’ pushing the party dangerously to the left — just as the Tea Party has often pushed Republicans farther to the right and made for intraparty run-ins.


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While many Democrats have praised the protesters, some officials in the party remain wary of their potential impact — especially if the protests were to turn more disruptive or even violent.

 â€œThat’s the danger with something like this — that you go from peaceful protests to throwing trash cans,” said a senior House Democratic official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

“Sure, there’s been some crazy anarchy stuff, but over all, the Democrats like their message about Wall Street and accountability,” the official said. “It overlaps with our own message.”

Matt Bennett, vice president for Third Way, a Democratic policy institute in Washington that favors a more centrist approach, said he believes the angry and sometimes radical tone of the protests may turn off moderate swing voters who will be critical in the 2012 elections, just as many moderates are put off by the rhetoric of the Tea Party on the right.

Embracing the protests may prove a mistake for Democrats, Mr. Bennett said. “There’s not much upside,” he said, “and there’s a lot of downside.”

Robert Reich, the former labor secretary under President Bill Clinton, wrote in a blog posting Friday that the protesters’ demands on taxes dovetail with Democrats’ themes, but he said the protests should still make the party wary — in part because Democrats rely on Wall Street for significant campaign contributions.

“If Occupy Wall Street coalesces into something like a real movement, the Democratic Party may have more difficulty digesting it than the G.O.P. has had with the Tea Party,” Mr. Reich wrote.


Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on October 12, 2011, 07:26:55 PM
:lmao:

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-10-12.html

WINGLESS, BLOODSUCKING AND PARASITIC: MEET THE FLEA PARTY!

October 12, 2011

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So far, the only major accomplishment of the "Occupy Wall Street" protesters is that they have finally put an end to their previous initiative, "Occupy Our Mothers' Basements."

Oddly enough for such a respectable-looking group -- a mixture of adolescents looking for a cause, public sector union members, drug dealers, criminals, teenage runaways, people who have been at every protest since the Berkeley Free Speech Movement, Andrea Dworkin look-alikes, people 95 percent of whose hair is concentrated in their ponytails and other average Democrats -- they can't even explain what they're protesting.

The protesters either treat inquiries about their purpose as a trick question, or -- worse -- instantly rattle off a series of insane causes: "No. 1, abolish capitalism; No. 2, because 9/11 was an inside job; No. 3, because Mumia is innocent ..."

Curiously, the only point universally agreed upon by the protesters and their admirers in the Democratic Party and the mainstream media is that "Occupy Wall Street" should be compared to the tea party. Yes, that would be the same tea party that has been denounced and slandered by the Democratic Party and the mainstream media for the last three years.

As a refresher: The Democratic National Committee called the tea partiers "angry mobs" and "rabid right-wing extremists." ABC said they were a "mob." CNN accused them of "rabble rousing." Harry Reid called them "evil mongers." Nancy Pelosi said they were "un-American." CNN's Anderson Cooper and every single host on MSNBC called the tea partiers a name that referred to an obscure gay sex act.

But apparently liberals couldn't even convince themselves that tea partiers were an extremist group unworthy of emulation.

At least they're embarrassed about what the OWS protesters really are: wingless, bloodsucking and parasitic. This is the flea party, not the tea party.

Contrary to all the blather you always hear about how lawless street protests and civil disobedience are part of the American tradition -- "what our troops are fighting for!" -- they are not. We are an orderly people with democratic channels at our disposal to change our government.

The very reason we have a constitutional republic is because of a mob uprising. Soon after the American Revolution, Shays' Rebellion so terrified and angered Americans that they demanded a federal government capable of crushing such mobs.

For nearly 200 years, Americans understood that they lived in a country capable of producing bad politicians and bad policies, but that was subject to change through peaceful, democratic means. There was no need to riot or storm buildings because we didn't have a king. We had a representative government.

-Continued at the link-
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 13, 2011, 11:37:27 AM
Sheep being kept and lead around like sheep:

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What’s really keeping a thousand or so young protesters in Lower Manhattan? Apparently, a ready supply of vegan pizza, hot quiches, and organic carrots. According to the New York Times, protesters have universally praised the free food available at the encampment. One protester explained:

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‘I’ve been here for 12 days, and I’ve put on 5 pounds,’ he said, sitting on the ground in front of a handmade sign that said ‘Class War Ahead.’ ‘I’m eating better than I do at home.’

All he had to do was amble toward a ramshackle cluster of tables and boxes in the middle of the park and, without paying a cent, grab a slice of pizza or a warm slab of homemade vegan casserole. Last Thursday he had encountered ‘a bunch of Katz’s Deli sandwiches,’ he said. ‘That was good.’

...

Tom Hintze, 24, was volunteering in Zuccotti Park last week. ‘Just now there was a big UPS delivery,’ he said. ‘We don’t know where it comes from. It just appears, and we eat it.’

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/279946/eat-rich-patrick-brennan

Seems to me people with money are bankrolling the great socialist revolution and the brats are too ****ing stupid to notice, care or even ask questions.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on October 13, 2011, 12:01:48 PM
So basically they're just mooching off people.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on October 13, 2011, 12:04:43 PM
Seems to me people with money are bankrolling the great socialist revolution and the brats are too ****ing stupid to notice, care or even ask questions.

One day, those bankrolling this will "collect" on those debts. :evillaugh: :fuelfire:
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on October 17, 2011, 09:08:26 PM
Uh Oh!

[youtube=425,350]NIlRQCPJcew[/youtube]
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on October 21, 2011, 11:58:35 AM
:lmao:

OBAMA BACKWARDS RUNNING WATCH

All three hands actually run in the wrong direction!

http://worldwidewatchcompany.myshopify.com/products/obama-backwards-running-watch

[youtube=425,350]O7si3me_NAE[/youtube]
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on October 21, 2011, 12:42:00 PM
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/10/obama_has_more_cash_from_wall.html

Obama has more cash from Wall Street than GOP rivals combined

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Washington -- Despite frosty relations with the titans of Wall Street, President Barack Obama has still managed to raise far more money this year from the financial and banking sector than Mitt Romney or any other Republican presidential candidate, according to new fundraising data.

Obama's key advantage is his ability to collect bigger checks from fewer donors, because he raises money for both his own campaign committee and for the Democratic National Committee, which will aid in his re-election effort. As a result, Obama has brought in more money from employees of banks, hedge funds and other financial service companies than all the GOP candidates combined, according to a Washington Post analysis of contribution data.

Consider the case of Bain Capital, the Boston-based private equity firm that was co-founded by Romney and where he made his fortune. Not surprisingly, Romney has strong support at the firm, raking in $34,000 from 18 Bain employees, according to the analysis of data from the Center for Responsive Politics.

But Obama has outdone Romney on his own turf, collecting $76,600 from Bain Capital employees through September -- and he only needed three donors to do it.

-Continued at the link-

Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on October 28, 2011, 12:58:11 PM
http://blog.sfgate.com/cityinsider/2011/10/26/public-health-officials-say-occupy-sf-camp-is-dirty-unsafe/?tsp=1

Public health says Occupy SF camp is dirty, unsafe

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The camp at Occupy San Francisco is an imminent hazard to health, the city’s public health department told demonstrators late Tuesday.

“Evidence of excrement, urine and vomit were observed throughout the park,” the department said in a notice. “Fecal material was observed on stairs and grass. A container of human waste was observed along the Embarcadero side of the park.”

“Several piles of vomit were observed along the Embarcadero side of the park,” the notice read. “Pile of feces and tampons found at a nearby pathway. Flies and urine observed along pathway.”

The health notice and a separate order from police to leave the park may be a sign that the city is laying the groundwork to clear out the park.

-Continued at the link-
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on October 31, 2011, 07:27:25 PM
:lmao:

http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Obamaween

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#Obamaween If kid's bag is too full, take 20% and tell them it's for "investments in critical candy infrastructure."

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The kid with the most amount of candy must give half his candy to the kid with the least...you know..cause that's fair. #obamaween

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#Obamaween Bailouts for neighbors who gave out way too much candy in the first 30 minutes.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on December 14, 2011, 01:26:59 PM
Uh Oh!

Holder held a news conference today talking about Voter ID Laws and whether they're legal BUT where's the outrage on the left about this? Photo at the link:

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/12/someone-alert-eric-holder-unions.html

Needle on Hypocrisy-Meter Breaks Off: Unions require photo IDs to vote in their elections

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As you’ll note in the photo below the union requires its own members to produce a photo ID in order to vote. The photo shows a union worker voting earlier today on whether to sanction a new four-year contract with Boeing, clearly the union understands the need for a picture ID in order to help guarantee a clean election.

Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on January 20, 2012, 07:55:06 AM
The Keystone Pipeline, is Obama really wanting to put a stop to it because of his "love for the environment"? or is it for the "love of Warren Buffets's pockets"? Here's an excerpt, the entire article can be read at the link:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/10/warren_buffett_the_keystone_pipeline_and_crony_capitalism.html

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A year after the election of Obama, Warren Buffett bought a giant railroad, the Burlington Northern Santa Fe.  The BNSF has more than 32,000 miles of track and right-of-way in this nation, running from the west coast and through the agricultural heartland of America.  It is also hauls coal from the mines in Montana and Wyoming and is the railroad with the best existing north-south infrastructure.  In fact, it's quite well-situated to perform precisely the task for which TransCanada has proposed to build a pipeline.

Should the pipeline fail, the oil will still be extracted, but it will then be transported by rail, and Mr. Buffett, thanks to the efforts of his friend Mr. Holland, will be uniquely situated to derive a fortune from that business, as well as enhance the value of his holdings in Conoco-Phillips petroleum.  Is it possible that Warren Buffett's assistance to Obama in both policy and public relations lately may be his way of trying to tip the regulatory scales in his favor?  After all, nothing says "I love you" to a Democrat better than a public plea for more taxes.


Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Rebel on January 20, 2012, 08:09:37 AM
Not to mention, George Soros is HEAVILY invested in one of their competitors.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on January 20, 2012, 12:43:22 PM
Not to mention, George Soros is HEAVILY invested in one of their competitors.

Not a shock either!
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on January 20, 2012, 12:49:21 PM
Here's my rant! maybe it's ethnic discrimination?

So I decided to make lasagna on Sun. I invited my MIL over, she loves my lasagna, so I go to the grocery store just to pick up a few ingredients and OMG at the prices! 2 1/2 pounds of chop meat for the meatballs? almost $10, a package of sausages? almost $11, a medium size ricotta container? brand name $7.99 store brand $5.99, I bought the store brand, a package of shredded mozzarella? a little under $5, just happened to catch a sale and got it a little cheaper, parmesan? almost $5 for the jar!

Can someone again tell me what good Obama has done since he's been in office? and why is he worthy of being re-elected?
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on January 25, 2012, 11:13:45 AM
Yipee!

Walker leads potential Democratic opponents in new statewide poll

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/138037158.html

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In the survey of 701 registered voters, Walker leads his 2010 opponent, Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, 50% to 44%. He leads former Dane County executive Kathleen Falk 49% to 42%.  He also leads two other Democrats, former congressman Dave Obey and state lawmaker Tim Cullen.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 25, 2012, 11:23:16 AM
Yipee!

Walker leads potential Democratic opponents in new statewide poll

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/138037158.html

This looks like a job for Asher.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on January 25, 2012, 11:33:38 AM
:lmao:
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Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 26, 2012, 11:01:39 AM
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A new report just out from the Internal Revenue Service reveals that 36 of President Obama’s executive office staff owe the country $833,970 in back taxes. These people working for Mr. Fair Share apparently haven’t paid any share, let alone their fair share.

Previous reports have shown how well-paid Obama’s White House staff is, with 457 aides pulling down more than $37 million last year. That’s up seven workers and nearly $4 million from the Bush administration’s last year.

Nearly one-third of Obama’s aides make more than $100,000 with 21 being paid the top White House salary of $172,200, each.

The IRS’ 2010 delinquent tax revelations come as part of a required annual agency report on federal employees’ tax compliance. Turns out, an awful lot of folks being paid by taxpayers are not paying their own income taxes.

http://news.investors.com/Article/599002/201201260818/obama-white-house-staff-back-taxes.htm
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on January 26, 2012, 11:11:32 AM
Oh my!
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Maxiest on January 26, 2012, 01:36:57 PM
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Turns out, an awful lot of folks being paid by taxpayers are not paying their own income taxes.

Cause they would just be paying themselves, that would be silly... :rotf:
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 27, 2012, 08:24:47 AM
 :rotf:

http://www.breitbart.tv/who-is-rachel-maddow/

Go for the video, stay for the reader comments.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Chris_ on January 27, 2012, 08:26:31 AM
Wesley Crusher went to Oxford? 

Captain Picard must have pulled a few strings.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Maxiest on January 27, 2012, 08:38:05 AM
:rotf:

http://www.breitbart.tv/who-is-rachel-maddow/

Go for the video, stay for the reader comments.

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jaegov 105p · 9 hours ago
He looks like a very nice young man.

Priceless   :rotf:
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: FreeBorn on January 27, 2012, 08:41:35 PM
Well, apparently Rachel Maddow doesn't have to worry about that.  :loser:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2RY_CXkgHM[/youtube]
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: FreeBorn on January 28, 2012, 02:07:15 AM
Originally posted in Comedy Central, got moved.

Headline was "You Know You're Finally Famous When"...
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on January 28, 2012, 08:10:52 PM
U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms
Cities hire Chinese instead of American workers for building projects.

This video is from a few months ago, wonder why it never got much publicity?

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/us-bridges-roads-built-chinese-firms-14594513?tab=9482930?ion=1206853&playlist=14594944
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on January 29, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
I love Walmart. Had to pick up a few items there, I picked up 1 item for $19 and change, get to the checkout and it rings up close to $30, I told the woman what it was marked, turns out the item was in the wrong place with the wrong price, they gave me the item for $19 and change.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 29, 2012, 01:37:46 PM
U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms
Cities hire Chinese instead of American workers for building projects.

This video is from a few months ago, wonder why it never got much publicity?
I think that started around 150 years ago with the transcontinental railroad.

It's why the Cartwrights were able to hire Hop Sing.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on January 29, 2012, 05:24:36 PM
Went out to dinner tonight, packed restaurant, Fox News was on the TV :lmao: no gnashing of teeth, no demands to change the station, I actually think if someone suggested it they'd have a fight on their hands, everyone just enjoying their dinner and didn't give a hoot what was on the TV.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: franksolich on January 30, 2012, 04:50:55 AM
Went out to dinner tonight, packed restaurant, Fox News was on the TV :lmao: no gnashing of teeth, no demands to change the station, I actually think if someone suggested it they'd have a fight on their hands, everyone just enjoying their dinner and didn't give a hoot what was on the TV.

Saturday night, about 8:00 p.m., I went out to supper with the femme, to a restaurant famous for its pizza.  We asked for, and got, a booth in the dark, isolated corner of the dining room, so as to be away from the “noise” (noise to me) of all the movement, color, and light of the main dining area.

But alas despite the lateness of the hour, soon after we were seated, a couple of guys, mid-twenties, were seated in the adjacent booth.  I was sitting facing them; they were to the femme’s back.  She later told me, judging from their conversation, that they were from Minnesota, and Democrats.

I didn’t know this at the time, sensing only that they were bad news, bad company, and wishing they’d gone to McDonald’s or something.  To make a long story short, I let the femme deal with it.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on January 30, 2012, 09:01:33 AM
I can't recall ever hearing a political conversation in a restaurant.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 30, 2012, 09:05:39 AM
I can't recall ever hearing a political conversation in a restaurant.

Or even wanting to.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: zeitgeist on January 30, 2012, 09:23:46 AM
I can't recall ever hearing a political conversation in a restaurant.

After watching several seasons of Kitchen Nightmares I find I infrequently visit resturants anymore.  And lets not even get started on public bathrooms. :thatsright:
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 30, 2012, 10:46:37 AM
I can't recall ever hearing a political conversation in a restaurant.
Same here. It's always in grocery checkout lines, or in a doctor's exam room.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 30, 2012, 11:25:34 AM
Same here. It's always in grocery checkout lines, or in a doctor's exam room.

Funny you should type that.  Last thursday, I had an appointment to check on my GERD and some inflammations in my esophagus (they haven't progressed--yay!) with a 40-something female PA.  Pretty woman.  Anyway, we got talking about something with my insurance, and I said something to the effect of, "Yeah, they won't pay for prescriptions over a longer period due to Obamacare."  I wasn't sure just what the response would be . . . turns out that she thinks exactly like I do.  I tend to think that she was supporting Romney over Gingrich, due to the marital situation, but when I explained the acronym ABBO to her (Anybody But Barack Obama) to her, she liked it.  She said that whoever won the Republican primary death-match, she'd be supporting.  (Hopefully, she's spreading that acronym around her office.)
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on January 30, 2012, 12:46:55 PM
I usually don't hear political conversations at all out in public, but I did have a conversation with a Doctor discussing Medicare regulations and he said it reads like the "communist manifesto" and he said "Obama and Biden are idiots", of course I agreed. :-)
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 30, 2012, 12:47:56 PM
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One of the Harvard professor’s [Elizabeth Warren's] many well-compensated part-time gigs included consulting for Travelers Insurance. I know that it is hard to believe that on one hand, Democrats would be bashing an industry, and on the other hand they are making money from it. To be a Democrat is to be a hypocrite.
 
What did Lizzy do to earn $44,000 in compensation from the insurance company? She made it harder for claimants to collect. Warren helped establish the bankruptcy strategy for companies to avoid crushing lawsuits. In short, go bankrupt to avoid paying victims.
 
In court briefings, she supported the effort to protect Travelers Insurance from future lawsuits after agreeing to a $500 million settlement with asbestos plaintiffs.

http://bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20220130insurance_past_should_sink_lizzy/srvc=home&position=also
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Rebel on January 30, 2012, 12:49:22 PM
http://bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20220130insurance_past_should_sink_lizzy/srvc=home&position=also

Well, see, that's different. She's a lib. Same reason they don't give a damn about this story:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/9048122/Agent-Provocateur-sales-boosted-by-US-First-Lady-Michelle-Obama.html
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on February 01, 2012, 08:09:16 PM
Signatures of all those who want to recall Walker were released, here's the link to them:

http://webapps.wi.gov/sites/recall/default.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fsites%2Frecall%2FRecall%20Petitions%2FGovernor&FolderCTID=0x01200044C3FE66B345E0409188D04555A38D8A&View={60B98C4A-B379-485C-8307-123B1E3F39CB}

So far, from FR, some inconsistencies found were these:

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I randomly selected one selection and noticed the same address but different room numbers for many people.
Googling the address I discovered it was a college dorm.

Googling the address of the petition circulator I discovered she lived in a $600,000 house in Madison, WI.

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The address used was in Greendale, WI. It is the address of a Walker contributor whose name and address appear on contribution reports for the Friends of Scott Walker
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on February 01, 2012, 08:10:46 PM
BTW, do the people who signed the petition have any idea that their names and addresses and the petitions themselves are on the internet?
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: thundley4 on February 01, 2012, 08:23:03 PM
BTW, do the people who signed the petition have any idea that their names and addresses and the petitions themselves are on the internet?

The GAB bowed to pressure from the ACLU and removed them, but not before other people snagged them.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Vagabond on February 01, 2012, 08:31:28 PM
Or even wanting to.

I did, once.  At the Perkins in Tomah, Wisconsin before the kerfluffle in Madison started.  A couple of guys in their early twenties that obviously leaned left, and also obviously recently out of college.  I eavesdropped a bit, got bored, and then started flirting with the waitress.  Alas, there was no cop jumping out of the bushes.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on February 01, 2012, 09:18:12 PM
The GAB bowed to pressure from the ACLU and removed them, but not before other people snagged them.

Oh, so the link I posted is from someone who grabbed it?

BTW, how come they bow to pressure for this but the left was all for releasing the names of contributors who voted Yes on Prop 8 in California?
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: thundley4 on February 01, 2012, 09:20:48 PM
Oh, so the link I posted is from someone who grabbed it?

BTW, how come they bow to pressure for this but the left was all for releasing the names of contributors who voted Yes on Prop 8 in California?

Different politics, different rules.  Same goes for their idea of free speech.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on February 02, 2012, 11:27:12 AM
What is a Conservative Hippie?

A conservative hippie is one who finally grew up:

Peace and love are still important to a conservative hippie but the conservative hippie grew up and realizes it sometimes takes bombs and guns to bring real peace.

A conservative hippie is one who wishes that peace could be obtained with talks but realizes it is not always possible.

A conservative hippie is one that desires to see the defenseless defended.

A conservative hippie believes the rights of oppressed women in other nations are just as important as those in America.

A conservative hippie is one that appreciates women having rights but realizes it is hypocritical to not allow the unborn babies to have their rights to live.

A conservative hippie will not wear pink and go around protesting war, when there are women in other nations that need to be set free from evil men.

A conservative hippie is one that still has a fondness of the music from the era of the 60s’ and 70s and refuses to compromise calling the music of today every bit as good. It is not.

A conservative hippie is one that has gone from expecting government to fix problems to one of getting things done for themselves.

A conservative hippie has gone from trusting government to trusting their fellow man.

A conservative hippie has more faith in their fellow man than they do government.

A conservative hippie has greater allegiance to their fellow man than they do government.

A conservative hippie has greater love for their fellow man than they do for government.

A conservative hippie is one who will not depend upon government to spread your wealth, but encourage you that you have what it takes to succeed.

A conservative hippie no longer believes that everyone owes them something.

A conservative hippie believes in higher education, but does not believe tax payers should pay for it.

A conservative hippie is one who still desires justice and is not afraid to speak out the true injustices.

A conservative hippie has learned the difference between a cop and a “pig.”

A conservative hippie will not white wash or compromise the truth for the sake of “peace and love.”

A conservative hippie will still go and protest, standing as one with others with the same common cause.

A conservative hippie loves the feeling of camaraderie but will not compromise to get it.

A conservative hippie is one who still cares about the planet but does not make it a religion to worship the earth.

A conservative hippie still likes bright, bold and fluorescent colors, daisies, beaded curtains, posters; maybe even decorate a room in remembrance of their youth, but will not use the room for smoking dope.

A conservative hippie still likes to burn incense but does not use it to cover up the smell of weed.

A conservative hippie still likes the aroma of patchouli and not embarrassed to wear it.

A conservative hippie has taken off the rose-colored glasses and sees the world as it is without the pipe dreams and illusions of youth.

A conservative hippie sees the beauty in a tree but would never make it’s life more important than a baby in the womb.

What is a conservative hippie? It is one who grew up.
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Post by: BEG on February 03, 2012, 12:34:25 PM
I wonder what DU thinks about the Arab Spring now. Egypt is a hell hole.
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Post by: thundley4 on February 03, 2012, 07:32:09 PM
I wonder what DU thinks about the Arab Spring now. Egypt is a hell hole.

It's still safer than Detroit, I bet.
Title: Re: DU you know?
Post by: Ballygrl on February 11, 2012, 12:12:21 PM
Hmm, Andrew Breitbart says he has video from Obama's College days, Andrew had dinner last week with Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn, did they give Andrew a video? he mentions the video at the beginning of this speech at CPAC:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-andrew-breitbarts-fiery-cpac-speech-i-have-college-days-obama-videos/
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Post by: Ballygrl on February 14, 2012, 12:24:55 AM
Wisconsin Teachers Revolting Against the Demands of Their Union Bosses

http://brookfield-wi.patch.com/articles/wisconsin-teachers-revolting-against-the-demands-of-their-union-bosses?ncid=txtlnkuspatc00000003

Here are some snippets, you can read the entire article at the link:

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Some rank-and-file members upset with WEAC endorsing a unproven candidate for statewide office who has lost twice already.


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As Wisconsin taxpayers are faced with an expensive recall election for governor, rank-and-file members of the state’s largest teachers union are fuming mad over the endorsement of a candidate that was hand-picked by their leadership.

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Hours after the endorsement, a petition on change.org was created to demand that the union rescind its endorsement of the former chief executive of the second largest county government in Wisconsin. Rank-and-file members were upset with WEAC endorsing a unproven candidate for statewide office that lost two times.

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WEAC’s rank-and-file members have every right to be upset about their leadership endorsing a unproven candidate. They are questioning if a candidate who met in secret with the union bosses is worthy of their endorsement. Could this backlash translate into support for State Senator Kathleen Vinehout, who announced her intent to run on Wednesday? Only time will tell as Wisconsin’s Democrats will face a very divisive primary that will pit their grassroots versus the big labor bosses that are telling them who they should vote for.

The only person that will benefit from the union’s divisiveness is Walker. As Walker will not have to face a primary election, he will enjoy a fund-raising and organizational advantage that the liberals will have a hard time replicating. The unions may face their worst nightmare during the Democratic primary if they do not listen to their front-line members that make up the Democratic Party.