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Title: How's that 100% vaccination rate working out for ya...
Post by: DLR Pyro on December 25, 2021, 11:11:26 PM

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Coronavirus outbreak sidelines ship whose crew is fully immunized, Navy says

A coronavirus outbreak aboard the USS Milwaukee, whose entire crew was "100% immunized," has forced the ship to remain in port after a scheduled stop in Cuba barely one week into its deployment, the Navy announced Friday.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-outbreak-sidelines-ship-whose-165801568.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-outbreak-sidelines-ship-whose-165801568.html)
Title: Re: How's that 100% vaccination rate working out for ya...
Post by: ExGeeEye on December 26, 2021, 03:12:47 AM
Question:

Was even one of them sick?

Or was this just a metric dogpile of positive PCR tests?

If they were full to the brim with virus and not sick, then

YEAH, THEY WERE 100% IMMUNIZED.

Carry on...
Title: Re: How's that 100% vaccination rate working out for ya...
Post by: Eupher on December 26, 2021, 07:11:03 AM
Question:

Was even one of them sick?

Or was this just a metric dogpile of positive PCR tests?

If they were full to the brim with virus and not sick, then

YEAH, THEY WERE 100% IMMUNIZED.

Carry on...

GMTA - Zackly right.

But we're supposed to panic because the sky really is falling...
Title: Re: How's that 100% vaccination rate working out for ya...
Post by: thundley4 on December 26, 2021, 01:24:28 PM
There is no vaccine for Covid-19. There is only the jab.
Title: Re: How's that 100% vaccination rate working out for ya...
Post by: SVPete on December 26, 2021, 01:53:36 PM
There is no vaccine for Covid-19. There is only the jab.

I’ll bite, what is your definition of a “vaccine”?
Title: Re: How's that 100% vaccination rate working out for ya...
Post by: DefiantSix on December 26, 2021, 01:56:29 PM
I'll bite, what is your definition of a "vaccine"?

Dead virus, onboarded with the intent of building an antibody base against the bug.

To my understanding, only the Johnson&Johnson product meets that basic definition, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: How's that 100% vaccination rate working out for ya...
Post by: thundley4 on December 26, 2021, 02:00:08 PM
I’ll bite, what is your definition of a “vaccine”?

Here's a question for the vaccine apologists.

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Social media is calling bluff on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for modifying its definition of the words “vaccine” and “vaccination” on its website.

 Before the change, the definition for “vaccination” read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.”

The term “vaccine” also got a makeover. The CDC’s definition changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article254111268.html#storylink=cpy

I guess "vaccine" means whatever the **** the government tells you to say it means.
Title: Re: How's that 100% vaccination rate working out for ya...
Post by: SVPete on December 26, 2021, 02:19:55 PM
Dead virus, onboarded with the intent of building an antibody base against the bug.

To my understanding, only the Johnson&Johnson product meets that basic definition, if I remember correctly.

1. The J&J vaccine does not contain any form of a coronavirus.

2. If all vaccines contain a dead or inactivated form of the vaccine's target, name the three viruses that are the targets of the TDaP (and DTaP) vaccine. There's a reason you cannot, yet those are vaccines.
Title: Re: How's that 100% vaccination rate working out for ya...
Post by: SVPete on December 26, 2021, 02:25:20 PM
A more precise and accurate definition is a pretty pathetic gotcha, th4.
Title: Re: How's that 100% vaccination rate working out for ya...
Post by: thundley4 on December 27, 2021, 05:34:12 AM
A more precise and accurate definition is a pretty pathetic gotcha, th4.

Oh for ****'s sake . They changed the definition to fit the WuFlu jab. How long are you going to defend this bullshit ?
Title: Re: How's that 100% vaccination rate working out for ya...
Post by: SVPete on December 27, 2021, 09:28:02 AM
Oh for ****'s sake . They changed the definition to fit the WuFlu jab. How long are you going to defend this bullshit ?

The "change", e.g., from "immunity" to "protection" is more accurate. Vaccines do not produce perfect immunity, as the news article about mumps breakthroughs I posted several days ago demonstrated, but the breakthrough case were less severe. Hence "protection" is more accurate than "immunity". That's fact, not "bullshit". BTW, speaking of "bullshit", don't try the anti-Covid-vaxxer BS claim that the term "breakthrough infection" was created to cover up imperfection of Covid vaccines. It was in use over a decade ago that I've found. Anti-Covid-vaxxers making that claim are dishonestly gaming normal people's lack of awareness of normal medical/pharmaceutical usage.

"Product" was changed to "Preparation", big whoop! "Preparation" is a more precise term. That's fact, not "bullshit".

"Stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease" was changed to "Stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases". :yawn: That's more accurate in two respects. First "stimulates the body’s immune response" is a more accurate description of what a vaccine does. That's fact, not "bullshit". Second, vaccines that target multiple diseases are common, e.g. the MMR and TDap/DTap vaccines. That's fact, not "bullshit".

While I'm speaking of vaccines that target multiple diseases, I see no one responded to

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2. If all vaccines contain a dead or inactivated form of the vaccine's target, name the three viruses that are the targets of the TDaP (and DTaP) vaccine. There's a reason you cannot, yet those are vaccines.

To defend the claim that a vaccine must contain a dead or inactivated form of the vaccine's target virus. Did someone learn that Tetanus, Diphtheria, and Pertussis are caused by bacteria and thus cannot contain a dead or inactivated form of the vaccine's target virus?

Since some folks here think my profession is a relevant valid target for ad hominem attack, I have never worked for any company, partnership, or person in any kind of medical or pharmaceutical field. I didn't even work for a drugstore when I was in high school or college.
Title: Re: How's that 100% vaccination rate working out for ya...
Post by: thundley4 on December 27, 2021, 11:44:02 AM
The "change", e.g., from "immunity" to "protection" is more accurate. Vaccines do not produce perfect immunity, as the news article about mumps breakthroughs I posted several days ago demonstrated, but the breakthrough case were less severe. Hence "protection" is more accurate than "immunity". That's fact, not "bullshit". BTW, speaking of "bullshit", don't try the anti-Covid-vaxxer BS claim that the term "breakthrough infection" was created to cover up imperfection of Covid vaccines. It was in use over a decade ago that I've found. Anti-Covid-vaxxers making that claim are dishonestly gaming normal people's lack of awareness of normal medical/pharmaceutical usage.

"Product" was changed to "Preparation", big whoop! "Preparation" is a more precise term. That's fact, not "bullshit".

"Stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease" was changed to "Stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases". :yawn: That's more accurate in two respects. First "stimulates the body’s immune response" is a more accurate description of what a vaccine does. That's fact, not "bullshit". Second, vaccines that target multiple diseases are common, e.g. the MMR and TDap/DTap vaccines. That's fact, not "bullshit".

While I'm speaking of vaccines that target multiple diseases, I see no one responded to

To defend the claim that a vaccine must contain a dead or inactivated form of the vaccine's target virus. Did someone learn that Tetanus, Diphtheria, and Pertussis are caused by bacteria and thus cannot contain a dead or inactivated form of the vaccine's target virus?

Since some folks here think my profession is a relevant valid target for ad hominem attack, I have never worked for any company, partnership, or person in any kind of medical or pharmaceutical field. I didn't even work for a drugstore when I was in high school or college.

**** off you bloody lying wanker.