Lady Freedom Returns (6,302 posts)
PTSD STINKS!!!!
I was down at the U of A Stadium this Saturday, enjoying the activities going on outside. I was not ready for what I heard coming from the Stadium. Sirens, the kind that reminded me of Tornado Sirens. I had a wee bit of a breakdown.
A week earlier I was at the Ronstadt Transit Center and someone dropped a jar of something from their groceries. The sound of breaking glass reminded me of hearing the windows busting.
And you know the people around you have no clue why you are breaking out in a sweet and shaking like it is below zero. They have no idea what is going on ( and I hope they never have to get first hand understanding) or what they could do to help. Some ask in hopes to help, but there really is nothing they can do.
PTSD SUCKS!!!!!!
By which I assume she means Pathetic Tucson Sucker of Dicks (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024092001)
Amber, PTSD is for people who have experienced more than a tornado.
I bet the rattle of coins in your cup is the sweetest music you ever heard, right?
Response to Lady Freedom Returns (Original post)
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 05:22 PM
panader0 (10,125 posts)
3. Hang in there LFR.
I wish I had a better vehicle. I'd come to Tucson (I live in Sierra Vista) and take you to lunch.
She must have a grand mal seizure every time she farts.Well duh.....it deflates her brain.
Chief Whitecloud better watch out if he ever drops a quarter in that flop house vibrating bed. Who knows what it might trigger.
:runaway:
Oh, good grief!
She must feel *some* degree of guilt for claiming PTSD for her one little tornado when there are so many who have actually suffered actual trauma. What a poser!
Well in all fairness, it was an EF5. Killed a couple hundred people and wiped out one third of the town, leveling 7,000 structures.
A terrible time in American history that tested the nerves of all, as evidenced by Lord Zero's bearing at the time those poor people were dying:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LiBMzzdjT4U/TdwpE-G_J4I/AAAAAAAAGUY/51QWCCcaYdY/s640/bcf8cdf3854d100bee0e6a7067004a76-APTOPIX+Ireland+Obama.JPEG)
By which I assume she means Pathetic Tucson Sucker of Dicks (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024092001)
Amber, PTSD is for people who have experienced more than a tornado.
I bet the rattle of coins in your cup is the sweetest music you ever heard, right?
And you know the people around you have no clue why you are breaking out in a sweet
Rio Nuevo manager Greg Shelko said perceptions about crime are one reason why more retailers haven’t located downtown.
“We have to prove that it’s safe here,†Shelko said recently.
Maggie Golston, founder of Biblio, said last year that social ills around the bookstore’s East Congress location were one reason she closed.
The store sat across the street from the Ronstadt Transit Center, the hub for Sun Tran buses and a hangout for the homeless and others downtown. Crowds make it a hot spot for violent crime, police said.
Wasn't Amber in the hospital, after being thrown from a moving car by a John, or something?
Her stories are starting to get tangled together.
Amber...a word, if I may:
Here's a few of the things I've been through in my brief turn on this planet:
--When I was 12, my house burned down. I WAS IN IT when I started. My mother and I had to walk in bare feet (literally) 200 yards to my next door neighbor and beat on the door to get the neighbors up to call the fire department.
--On my first boat (that's "submarine" for those of you who don't know any better) we ended up snagging something that dragged us down. Think going through 700 feet with a 20-degree down angle, the Chief of The Watch can't get the Trim Pump started, and the throttleman isn't getting any response on the backing bell ordered.
--A few months later, we're out on an exercise (PACEX '89) and while at 400 feet, doing 10 degree rolls (HIGHLY unusual.) The OOD thinks it's a good idea to come to PD to get a fix. We get to 150 feet and are doing 40 degree rolls. Despite this, someone thought it would be a good idea to continue to PD. The CO falls (literally) into Control and tells the OOD to get the boat back to 400 feet. Meanwhile, pretty much everyone who had lunch long since lost it, if they didn't hear what sounded very much like the fairwater planes about to be snapped off.
--I got to pick the brains, skull, etc. of one of my shipmates off the hull of that same boat about a year later, when he decided he'd had enough and blew his brains out while on watch. The XO's comment was, "Get this mess hosed off before sunrise!" The CO's comment was, "Good thing we won't have to paint over it."
--I, along with many of my shipmates, got to go through a no-shit, honest-to-****ing-God SUPER Typhoon (Google Omar 1992) before it hit Guam. We also got to clean up afterwards. That's how I got my Humanitarian Medal, in case you were wondering.
--I got a phone call from my mother at 2 am one morning telling me my sister was dead, out of the blue. I got to plan the funeral.
--A couple of years ago, I was working 80-hour weeks, going through the middle of a nasty divorce, and coping with the imminent loss of my father from lung cancer, who I got to fly 3000 miles to memorialize a week before Christmas.
So to you DUmmies I say:
BRING IT ON, MOTHER****ERS!!!!
I've never known anybody who had PTSD from a tornado. These people look for ways to have a mental illness.But she's special. ::)
Cindie
Not as tangled or nasty as her hair after not washing for a few weeks.
why you are breaking out in a sweet and shaking like it is below zero
Dude --
You have had the worst run of bad luck I have read/seen/heard.
The fact you remain upbeat and optimistic is the death-toll for "progressives" who whine and scream PTSD (and taxpayer-subsidized housing, meds, etc.).
But if I was any of them I would kill myself.
The fact they live is an indictment of the straw "values" they have.
See, that's just it--I don't consider it "bad luck", merely the things that can happen in one's life. If anything, these experiences I've had have made me STRONGER, learning how to deal (or not deal) with stress. I don't just shut it down and cry about the stuff that has happened to me that I can't control, can't change, or can't erase.
Some people ruck up and move on. Some curl up in a ball and cease to function as normal human beings. I'd like to think I'm firmly in the former category.
As coach would say, "excrecence happens." I refuse to let the "bad" things in life control or define me.
ETA: Conversely, I've also had some wonderful things happen in my life. Scoobie and the kids very high (if not actually on top) on that list. I've been fortunate to be pretty healthy. I've worked hard, been gifted with a good talent and an ability to learn new things, which has translated quite well into my life. I really want for nothing in my life. Believe me, my list of things to be thankful for I remind myself of daily, not just over a turkey once a year with the family.
Lady Freedom Returns (6,302 posts)
PTSD STINKS!!!!
I was down at the U of A Stadium this Saturday, enjoying the activities going on outside. I was not ready for what I heard coming from the Stadium. Sirens, the kind that reminded me of Tornado Sirens. I had a wee bit of a breakdown.
A week earlier I was at the Ronstadt Transit Center and someone dropped a jar of something from their groceries. The sound of breaking glass reminded me of hearing the windows busting.
And you know the people around you have no clue why you are breaking out in a sweet and shaking like it is below zero. They have no idea what is going on ( and I hope they never have to get first hand understanding) or what they could do to help. Some ask in hopes to help, but there really is nothing they can do.
PTSD SUCKS!!!!!!
See, that's just it--I don't consider it "bad luck", merely the things that can happen in one's life. If anything, these experiences I've had have made me STRONGER, learning how to deal (or not deal) with stress. I don't just shut it down and cry about the stuff that has happened to me that I can't control, can't change, or can't erase.
Some people ruck up and move on. Some curl up in a ball and cease to function as normal human beings. I'd like to think I'm firmly in the former category.
As coach would say, "excrecence happens." I refuse to let the "bad" things in life control or define me.
ETA: Conversely, I've also had some wonderful things happen in my life. Scoobie and the kids very high (if not actually on top) on that list. I've been fortunate to be pretty healthy. I've worked hard, been gifted with a good talent and an ability to learn new things, which has translated quite well into my life. I really want for nothing in my life. Believe me, my list of things to be thankful for I remind myself of daily, not just over a turkey once a year with the family.
These idiots get PTSD if their pizza gets delivered in 31 minutes instead of 30.
I just don't get all this PTSD stuff. I do with vets, especially after prolonged deployment, but one traumatic episode?
Maybe our resident medical experts can weigh in on this issue. :)
I just don't get all this PTSD stuff. I do with vets, especially after prolonged deployment, but one traumatic episode?
Maybe our resident medical experts can weigh in on this issue. :)
You'd never guess it from the stories over at DU and across the net but PTSD is an actual thing and what she's describing ain't it. What's appalling is people deciding they have PTSD and then milking it for all it's worth 'cause all that does is make every thinking person believe PTSD is another bullshit excuse. Not only is PTSD real, it's very treatable when approached with discipline, honesty, and a willingness to do hard work along with a qualified counselor.
Guess I just lost my patience with someone who's making everyone's life harder.
I could say all the life shit I've gone through, too, and I think it's silly to try to compare who has the better sob story and how well or how not well they've coped. Edit to add: I try to follow the idea of not judging til I've walked a mile in a person's shoes, then walked back and returned them. ;)
If that is what you got out of this, then you completely missed the point.
Nope, that was actually in response to the person who listed the traumas they have dealt with well. I admire them for being strong people.
The Prazosin, or MiniPress, is a drug that is underutilized in treating night symptoms of PTSD -- it's even reduced my overactive startle reflex when awake. It's not narcotic or addictive, though it will lower blood pressure so isn't suitable if you consistently run below 90/50 normally -- I run 110/70 normally and that's where it takes me to in the mornings, and that's when I have to stand up slowly. But it is a far better solution if a person needs medication along with proper therapy than benzodiazepines, which are over-prescribed and have severe withdrawal effects even if not abused but used as directed.
Nope, that was actually in response to the person who listed the traumas they have dealt with well. I admire them for being strong people.
The Prazosin, or MiniPress, is a drug that is underutilized in treating night symptoms of PTSD -- it's even reduced my overactive startle reflex when awake. It's not narcotic or addictive, though it will lower blood pressure so isn't suitable if you consistently run below 90/50 normally -- I run 110/70 normally and that's where it takes me to in the mornings, and that's when I have to stand up slowly. But it is a far better solution if a person needs medication along with proper therapy than benzodiazepines, which are over-prescribed and have severe withdrawal effects even if not abused but used as directed.
Dori,It's contagious among the closed company of libs.
A person can legitimately develop PTSD after a single traumatic episode. Here (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK83241/) is the current clinical definition of PTSD.
But Amber is lying. She's trying to jump on the disability gravy train.
It's contagious among the closed company of libs.
If I were a judge in the Amber case, do you know what her sentence would be ?
You'd never guess it from the stories over at DU and across the net but PTSD is an actual thing and what she's describing ain't it. What's appalling is people deciding they have PTSD and then milking it for all it's worth 'cause all that does is make every thinking person believe PTSD is another bullshit excuse. Not only is PTSD real, it's very treatable when approached with discipline, honesty, and a willingness to do hard work along with a qualified counselor.
Guess I just lost my patience with someone who's making everyone's life harder.
Then why didn't you quote him?
God almighty... Have you ever considered that sometimes in life it's not how hard you hit, it's how hard you can get hit and still push forward? To be able to overcome and win?
Because I was trying not to post a ton as you guys are at least temporarily allowing me as a houseguest. I apologize.
Yes, I have. I'm sorry if somehow I've offended you by trying to let people know who might read this thread and be dealing with the trap of benzos prescribed in good faith by their doctor and taken in good faith) to deal with particularly nighttime PTSD issues a treatment that made a world of difference for me in one of my primary symptoms. It's a blood pressure pill, pure and simple. When taken at night, it reduces the affect of adrenaline rushes that can occur during nightmares and particularly the ones that cause night terrors. And by agreeing that yes, it is real. And that yes, it can be overcome. With proper therapy, and sometimes medication can be needed in the initial stabilization process.
And I was the one who said, in reference to things said on the thread itself, exactly that, maybe not in the best words. I assume, at least, you mean how hard you have been hit, not how hard you hit. I think there *are* many people who compete in martyrdom vs fighting to survive and live a productive life. The latter is obviously the more appropriate attitude.
I think the issue, in part, is that we in general don't need to be lectured on PTSD when we are generally loathe to claim it, ESPECIALLY by self-diagnosis. It's possible that someone can be afflicted by PTSD and NOT want to claim it as a badge of honor. Not that it's shameful, but I suspect most CCers don't walk around bragging about their issues.
Think that over.
If you think admitting my mental health issues to anyone other than people online is easy, you're very wrong.
Lorelai- reality check. It's time to stop.
We are strangers to you, and reasonable people do not talk about their mental health problems, medications, or sexual abuse history with strangers. Talk to your doctor, your pastor, your husband/boyfriend/girlfriend, your cat*, or your mother about these things- but not strangers on the Internet.
I know that you share this kind of thing with the drooling morons over at DU, but this isn't DU. There is are several reasons the rest of the world has the low opinion of DUmmies that we do; going into inappropriate detail about your mental health is one of them. Expecting affirmation of it is another.
*It's OK to talk to your cat. It's not OK to expect it to solve your problems.
Because I was trying not to post a ton as you guys are at least temporarily allowing me as a houseguest. I apologize.
Yes, I have. I'm sorry if somehow I've offended you by trying to blah blah blah
Lorelai- reality check. It's time to stop.That was a Hi5 response.
We are strangers to you, and reasonable people do not talk about their mental health problems, medications, or sexual abuse history with strangers. Talk to your doctor, your pastor, your husband/boyfriend/girlfriend, your cat*, or your mother about these things- but not strangers on the Internet.
I know that you share this kind of thing with the drooling morons over at DU, but this isn't DU. There is are several reasons the rest of the world has the low opinion of DUmmies that we do; going into inappropriate detail about your mental health is one of them. Expecting affirmation of it is another.
*It's OK to talk to your cat. It's not OK to expect it to solve your problems.
It's disappointing how hesitant some lunatic DUmmies are to just end it all.
Most of them sooner or later go the Deadstone route and make the world a better place, but all the deranged drama leading up to it is really irritating and unnecessary.
Please, DUmmy, no one cares even the slightest bit about how you feel or what happens to you.
You've made your point. Is there an ignore feature on here, so you can ignore me and not have to see anything, or is there moderator consensus at this point that your forum is not the right place for me?
Sure there is an ignore feature DUmmie but you gotta use your ginormous brain to figure out how to use it.
I can take the abuse, it's that GOBUCKS would rather not see my posts. I guess *they* will have to use their ginormous brain to figure it out, then.
Edit for grammar fail.
I don't see anything in GOBUCKS post that suggest he'd put you on ignore, in fact that would be counter intuitive.
DUmmy lunatics are far more entertaining in their natural environment over in the DUmp loonybin.
Here, they're just sickening.
I can take the abuse, it's that GOBUCKS would rather not see my posts. I guess *they* will have to use their ginormous brain to figure it out, then.
Edit for grammar fail.
It seemed, possibly, that those of you who enjoy making moles on DU actually enjoyed trying to interact with Democrats, and wanted to have some constructive debate instead of preaching only to the choir -- which is why I enjoy reading RedState. Of course, there are also the ones who continuously create "dieskinnerdie" accounts, too.... I don't want to think that's anyone from your forum.
Lorelai- reality check. It's time to stop.
We are strangers to you, and reasonable people do not talk about their mental health problems, medications, or sexual abuse history with strangers. Talk to your doctor, your pastor, your husband/boyfriend/girlfriend, your cat*, or your mother about these things- but not strangers on the Internet.
I know that you share this kind of thing with the drooling morons over at DU, but this isn't DU. There is are several reasons the rest of the world has the low opinion of DUmmies that we do; going into inappropriate detail about your mental health is one of them. Expecting affirmation of it is another.
*It's OK to talk to your cat. It's not OK to expect it to solve your problems.
Look Lorelai, I'll remind you of the same suggestion I've given you prior.
Craft a thread on a subject of your choice and then enjoy the constructive debate.
Um... no... and I will explain why you are wrong.
Firstly, moles on DU are there to keep an eye on the DUmpmonkiez, as they have a nasty NAZI like tendency to ban anyone who does try to hold an honest conversation with them, and (in times of great DUmp crisis) shut the site off to non-members when they feel threatened.
Constructive debate is not allowed at the DUmp. If you doubt this, make up a new membership and start posting any story or comment that isn't far left. You will get attacked by the swarming Monkiez flinging poo and shortly be escorted to teh showers by the DUmp GESTAPO.
As we allow you to post here most freely, the DUmp allows no dessent no outside thought no debate.
Eh, I was pretty new when I posted that rant about everyone jumping on conspiracy theories about Sarah Palin's apparently miraculous and therefore impossible conception late in life. I didn't get banned. ;) I also started up in primary season in 2008 as a Hillary supporter.
I don't see anything in GOBUCKS post that suggest he'd put you on ignore, in fact that would be counter intuitive.
Sadly this experience left me with years of dread when that movie comes on the TV.
Relax sweets
Relax sweets GOBUCKS has me on ignore and I am an old lady :-) creeping into old timers disease.
PTSD is a horrid condition, Shell Shock was the term to be used from our Vets returning from war. You trivialize this condition as I have done in the above post. Good grief, do you think your experiences were worse then the people that survived Sherman and his march ?
Talk to the Asians that escaped Cambodia and Laos walking 100's of miles to a shelter run by the Canadian and Americans to eventually bring them to safety.
Thank the good Lord you were born in America, a place where you can be all you can be at any age, race or faith.
Were you any kind of Animal you would not last long in the field, you have a big bright V on your forehead that welcomes all to come eat you all up.
Did you respond to the wrong post? BigDog was calling you out for sharing too much info. GOBUCKS was just commenting on how DUmpmonkie posts are boring.
Oh... nevermind...
Horse. Water. Dumpmonkiez unwilling to see reality...
It seems there are some young women who enjoy playing and exploiting the victim/martyr/drama role. I don't know if they are predisposed to it, conditioned to it as a child, or what.
I probably sound a little hard and unsympathetic towards my own gender. I've never been that way, and I find it immature and irritating.
:o
Jesus wept! Stop giving vesta a run for her money for long assed rambling post!
I caught the PSTD just from trying to read it.
bitchslap.
for everyone.
Such a giver.
lorelai, please stop......just stop.
DITTO!!!
Did anyone read past the 1st sentence?Thank you for asking that question.
Unless posted by well-known and interesting posters, NO ONE reads them long posts.
:o
Jesus wept! Stop giving vesta a run for her money for long assed rambling post!
I caught the PSTD just from trying to read it.
bitchslap.
for everyone.
lorelai, please stop......just stop.
Did anyone read past the 1st sentence?
Unless posted by well-known and interesting posters, NO ONE reads them long posts.
Did anyone read past the 1st sentence?
Unless posted by well-known and interesting posters, NO ONE reads them long posts.
Lorelai- reality check. It's time to stop.
We are strangers to you, and reasonable people do not talk about their mental health problems, medications, or sexual abuse history with strangers. Talk to your doctor, your pastor, your husband/boyfriend/girlfriend, your cat*, or your mother about these things- but not strangers on the Internet.
I know that you share this kind of thing with the drooling morons over at DU, but this isn't DU. There is are several reasons the rest of the world has the low opinion of DUmmies that we do; going into inappropriate detail about your mental health is one of them. Expecting affirmation of it is another.
*It's OK to talk to your cat. It's not OK to expect it to solve your problems.
Mentally-ill DUmpmonkeys always write loooong, rambling, disjointed posts. It would be so appreciated if they could stop beating around the bush and simply leave a nice concise suicide note, but right up until the last moment when they finally do the world a favor, they persist in these boring, endless, whiny diatribes.
DUmmies, especially the real nutjobs like the one currently hanging around here, are a lot like zoo monkeys. They're entertaining as hell when you go to the zoo, to their little island surrounded by a moat. You can watch them chase each other, gingerly wade into the water to retrieve a peanut, play with sticks, and toss crap at each other. They're funny and enjoyable.
But if you come home to find a zoo monkey swinging from your draperies, climbing on your china cabinet, it's another thing altogether. Their incessant noise, their offensive behavior, and their overpowering odor make them not the least enjoyable. They instantly become pests, vermin. But to the monkey, that's all just normal. Thank goodness they rarely last for long.
I have to agree with Big Dog on this. I've known people on this forum for almost 10 years in some cases and most do not know anything about the things I've been through since I have not shared it with them and like others there have been some doozies that hit me over the emotional head like a sledgehammer. I consider it private business and I deal with anything that has affected me privately although I might as a point of reference discount things I see DU posting by postulating that others have been there too to show just how ridiculous the martyrdom is there. For example, LFR and the tornado, when people here have been through hurricanes, tornadoes, ice storms, and many of the military have done that on boats rolling around in the water or fully exposed to the elements while on duty protecting this country and its interests. If for no other reason, I don't know why anyone would want to share their vulnerabilities like that with just anyone. I would think folks would want to keep that with people they trusted to handle their fragility and vulnerability with some love and care. Just another way of looking at things...
Amber is dysfunctional and needs help, to be sure, but PTSD? Not even close.Amber Hoyt is sober as a judge compared to the wackonut Dump reject who's been posting here.
Amen, jty--aside from a few things I've shared here over the years, most people here (even those of you on FB) see very little of what goes on in the lives of me, Scoobs, and the kids. Girl has a new haircut? Great. Unloading my deepest darkest thoughts or experiences? Not even close.
I've experienced more than most, less than others. What I've seen and done makes me who I am. When I start dwelling or living in the past, I stop growing.
I refuse to do that. I've been lucky that I do not have PTSD, nor do I really believe I've been exposed to the kind of situations that would tend to lead to it. As has been stated elsewhere, people who REALLY have the condition don't brag about it, or even talk about it much. Amber is dysfunctional and needs help, to be sure, but PTSD? Not even close.
Because I was trying not to post a ton as you guys are at least temporarily allowing me as a houseguest. I apologize.
I'm sorry if somehow I've offended you by trying to let people know who might read this thread and be dealing with the trap of benzos prescribed in good faith by their doctor and taken in good faith) to deal with particularly nighttime "PTSD" issues a treatment that made a world of difference for me in one of my primary symptoms.
Yes, I have.
It's a blood pressure pill, pure and simple. When taken at night, it reduces the affect of adrenaline rushes that can occur during nightmares and particularly the ones that cause night terrors.
I assume, at least, you mean how hard you have been hit, not how hard you hit.
Eh, I was pretty new when I posted that rant about everyone jumping on conspiracy theories about Sarah Palin's apparently miraculous and therefore impossible conception late in life. I didn't get banned. ;) I also started up in primary season in 2008 as a Hillary supporter.