The 9/11 Presidential Forum on Foxnews -- LIve thread

[Wretched Excess]

appearances by mccain and obama

mccain goes first . . . .

[Hawkgirl]

Streaming Live Feed at work..When do the questions start?

[Hawkgirl]

1. Government doesn't have to be in charge of everything (or foot the bill), sometimes the private sector can do a good job if not better.

+1

[Hawkgirl]

Obama refused to do town hall meetings...

[Wretched Excess]

mccain's defense of small town mayors was a bit lame, but that isn't the point.  the point is that she is currently the sitting governor of a state.  but no one seems to want to talk about that.  I find that peculiar.

[Wretched Excess]

he did much better with volunteerism, and how gov't can't do everything for everyone.  he left how how no one should want government to do everything for you, because when government pays the bills, government calls the shots and makes the decisions.  and THAT is a loss of individual liberty, even if it is for allegedly "compassionate" or "benevolent" reasons.

a loss of liberty is a loss of liberty.

[Hawkgirl]

Damn straight america is better..what is she getting at?   

[Wretched Excess]

Damn straight america is better..what is she getting at?   

I find the editor of time to be much more condescending and ridiculous.  but I viewed him with bottomless contempt before this show came on.

[Hawkgirl]

what a waste of time.
Although I think McCain did well

[Hawkgirl]

Barrack's turn and the crowd goes wild 

[Wretched Excess]

Barrack's turn and the crowd goes wild 

of course.  break out the no-doz.  this guy can't say "good morning" without it taking 20 minutes and making a half dozen qualifications and exceptions to the relative goodness of the morning.

[Wretched Excess]

this is the cheapest, vilest kind of monday morning quarterbacking.  it's easy to say what he would have done after 9/11 if he was president SEVEN YEARS AFTER THE FACT.  hell, he would have curled up in the corner and sobbed.

[Red October]

this is the cheapest, vilest kind of monday morning quarterbacking.  it's easy to say what he would have done after 9/11 if he was president SEVEN YEARS AFTER THE FACT.  hell, he would have curled up in the corner and sobbed.

... after he had developed a "bold energy plan."   

[Wretched Excess]

oh, and the proper course of action after 9/11 is almost precisely the same as the vague outlines that exist of his smattering of generalized policy ideas.  funny how that worked out, huh?

[Wretched Excess]

LOL!  one of the questioners just challenged him for specifics, and immediately after saying, "no what would you do, but HOW would you do it", she said, "we have under a minute left".

and then he said nothing at all for 48 seconds.

[Hawkgirl]

I notice the level of inquisitiveness has changed.  No..."But is america better than other countries....???" that was asked 3 times of McCain.  Barrack said "America is the greatest country in the world" but no clarification needed by him.

[Hawkgirl]

Not everyone is eligible for the United Negro Fund, Barrack.  I currently have no kids, my taxes pay for elementary, middle and highschool.  Why should I foot the bill for college too?  I paid for my education and worked a full time job to make ends meet.  Why should other's get a free pass...it CAN BE DONE with hard work and determination.

[Wretched Excess]

now here is a sunburst.  "when a hurricane like katrina strikes, we need a FEMA that works."  I had forgotten how shallow this guy really is.

[Red October]

Obama gives props to Bush on AIDS.  Ya heard him say it, DU. 

[Wretched Excess]

now he is mobilizing seniors.  ah, but the key is to have an inspiring president.  it always comes back to that with him, doesn't it?  "How will all this work, senator obama"?  "I will inspire it forth."

[Wretched Excess]

Obama gives props to Bush on AIDS.  Ya heard him say it, DU. 

I forget how many billions he budgeted for AIDS research every year, and foreign assistance for AIDS in africa.  it was a jaw dropping number.

[Red October]

Obama gives props to Bush on AIDS.  Ya heard him say it, DU. 

I forget how many billions he budgeted for AIDS research every year, and foreign assistance for AIDS in africa.  it was a jaw dropping number.

I thought it was 300 billion we sent to Africa.  That number sticks out in my mind.

[Wretched Excess]

Obama gives props to Bush on AIDS.  Ya heard him say it, DU. 

I forget how many billions he budgeted for AIDS research every year, and foreign assistance for AIDS in africa.  it was a jaw dropping number.

I thought it was 300 billion we sent to Africa.  That number sticks out in my mind.

that sounds about right.  hey, after a hundred billion, it turns into real money.

[Wretched Excess]

a shiver runs down my spine every time I hear him say, "as commander in chief . . . . "

[Red October]

Hearing him talk about the WWII generation... why does it feel like hearing a witch recite The Lord's Prayer?