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Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« on: August 16, 2008, 05:26:43 PM »
we'll see how The BarackStar! does without his teleprompter tonight.

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Church Forum to Take Presidential Candidates Off Talking Points

John McCain and Barack Obama risk being seen out of their element and off their talking points Saturday night when they join influential pastor Rick Warren for a forum at his California mega-church.

But the unusual event also will provide an opportunity for the political rivals to woo conservative Christian voters, a bloc that has largely supported the Republican Party but that Obama nevertheless has courted.

The importance of the evangelical vote is only underscored by Obama’s and McCain’s willingness to join Warren at his Saddleback Church for the forum. It is their first such appearance together since they clinched their respective nominations. Obama has resisted calls from McCain to join him for a set of town hall meetings.

“The fact that this event is even taking place is significant,” Republican strategist Doug Heye said. “It could provide an opportunity for Barack Obama to make some inroads, but I think you’ll see John McCain stressing his conservative credentials.”

Watch the forum live on FOX News starting at 8 p.m. ET Saturday.

Obama’s appearance at the forum will underscore the gulf between him and America’s most conservative religious voters on issues such as abortion and gay rights. If those issues come up, it will give McCain an opening to align himself with mainstream evangelicals.

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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama appear tonight at 8PM on Foxnews
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2008, 07:23:16 PM »

watching this now . . . 

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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama appear tonight at 8PM on Foxnews
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2008, 07:25:42 PM »

rick warren has gone the way of bill o'reilly.  he's too fond of his own voice.

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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama appear tonight at 8PM on Foxnews
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2008, 07:27:05 PM »
he is asking some good questions. "At what point do babies get human rights?"

Obama cannot answer with specificity, it's above his paygrade... Excuse me didn't he vote pro abortion including late term and against medical care for an aborted fetus?

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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama appear tonight at 8PM on Foxnews
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2008, 07:28:18 PM »
he is asking some good questions. "At what point do babies get human rights?"

Obama cannot answer with specificity, it's above his paygrade... Excuse me didn't he vote pro abortion including late term and against medical care for an aborted fetus?

my power was out until just a few minutes ago.  I missed most of this . . . .


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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama appear tonight at 8PM on Foxnews
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2008, 07:29:34 PM »

The BarackStar! is talking about humility.  imagine that. :whatever:

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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2008, 07:31:41 PM »

OMG!  he just said that clarence thomas wasn't qualified to be on the SCOTUS.  the irony.  it is rich.


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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2008, 07:32:20 PM »
he's talking like he negotiating a minefield and he is!

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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama appear tonight at 8PM on Foxnews
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2008, 07:32:30 PM »
"The primary responsibility of the Supreme Court is to prevent the encroachment of the Executive branch on the rest of government." :whatever:

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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2008, 07:33:44 PM »
Any sane person wouldn't have nominated that Ginsberg ACLU Lawyer bitch. He said CLarence Thomas cause he's black. Safe answer.
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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama appear tonight at 8PM on Foxnews
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2008, 07:34:38 PM »
"The primary responsibility of the Supreme Court is to prevent the encroachment of the Executive branch on the rest of government." :whatever:


Wow, Obama REALLY doesn't know shit does he? McCain's gonna' look great compared to this idiot.
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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2008, 07:34:39 PM »
he's talking like he negotiating a minefield and he is!

stylistically, he is coming off very well, though.  he seems very relaxed and comfortable.

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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama appear tonight at 8PM on Foxnews
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2008, 07:37:07 PM »
"The primary responsibility of the Supreme Court is to prevent the encroachment of the Executive branch on the rest of government." :whatever:



That was a stupid answer.  Very stupid.

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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2008, 07:37:40 PM »
define rich
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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2008, 07:38:11 PM »
rick warren is being used like a dish rag.

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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2008, 07:39:04 PM »
this guy voted for literal infanticide during his time in the illinois senate. 

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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2008, 07:40:10 PM »
Define rich.  Good question.

"$150,000 or less as a family, is middle class.  I would argue that if you're making more than $250,000...."(changes subject without answering question).
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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2008, 07:40:20 PM »

and his tax plan is bullshit.  it won't bring in the revenue to fund the billions and billions of additional dollars
that his programs will cost.


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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2008, 07:41:21 PM »
"If you have, $150,000 you could be rich, or poor". Did I hear that right?
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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2008, 07:43:28 PM »

he's on record for an additional 800 BILLION dollars in spending over his first term . . . his tax plan won't ****ing pay for it.

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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2008, 07:47:18 PM »

WTF!?!?!

his web guys are going to go insane tonight erasing his former positions on stuff from his website.


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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2008, 07:48:26 PM »
he just said something nice about GWB?

the DUmmies will not be amused.


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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama appear tonight at 8PM on Foxnews
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2008, 07:48:40 PM »
"The primary responsibility of the Supreme Court is to prevent the encroachment of the Executive branch on the rest of government." :whatever:


Wow, Obama REALLY doesn't know shit does he? McCain's gonna' look great compared to this idiot.
How many actually know that it is the legislative branch that makes law?
According to the Bible, "know" means "yes."

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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2008, 07:51:33 PM »
I see that he has an american flag on his lapel tonight.  that WAS a sign of "false patriotism" not too long ago


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Re: Saddleback Showdown: McCain and Obama -- LIVE THREAD!
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2008, 07:51:53 PM »
but then he comes on with torture in answer to religious persecution, jeez Obama get those talking point in