HipChick (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-07-11 02:47 AM
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Mom kills self and shoots kids in welfare office...
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-07-11 02:49 AM
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1. 18 page thing to get foodstamps. Can we get any more demeaning? Banks get billions
with a phone call.
The Genealogist (455 posts) Wed Dec-07-11 05:17 AM
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20. And on top of it, contempt and hate from RWers
Some want to put your life under a microscope, mandating drug tests and other demeaning things. Other people not only look down on you, but attack you for being poor and thus lazy, a druggie, a criminal and other charges. The 18 page form/application is only the beginning of the indignity.
baldguy (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-07-11 02:52 AM
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3. If the GOP wins in 2012, watch for more of this.
TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-07-11 05:16 AM
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19. GOP is just a symptom. The PROBLEM is the entire American ethos...
Edited on Wed Dec-07-11 05:16 AM by TheMadMonk
...of: "Screw the other guy first."
Even on DU the numbers who "truly care" (and have ALWAYS cared) are fairly limited and most only NOW "care" because their neighbours showed them how little they themselves care and how willing they are to feed even their closest friends to "the grinder" for personal advantage, or even just briefly delay their own demise.
OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-07-11 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #19
26. The GOP as a political party may be a symptom.
But the American right wing perpetuates this social Darwinism.
TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-07-11 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. No. America as a WHOLE perpetuates this social Darwinism.
Collectively: You vote to punish not correct; You cheerfully (even gleefully) vote to defund social services not personally relevant; You vote to control aspects of other peoples lives which are none of your gods be damned business. And you do these things repeatedly countrywide.
The best the American left can muster is a pretty damned vague agreement that people shouldn't be left to starve, or die of easily preventable/managable medical conditions. Your left wing lies so far to the right, that by today's standards, Nixon would be a an unelectable woolly/wishfull thinking socialist.
I've never understood why anti-creationists are so terrified of Darwinism, social or otherwise.
madmax (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-07-11 02:54 AM
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4. We've come to this.
America, the richest country in the world, #1 in everything if you ask a wing nut. This is so fracking heart breaking.
The only wingnut was the **** who shot her kids.
And you people who applaud her.
DCKit (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-07-11 02:59 AM
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6. "but you queers can't adopt them". nt
Holy ****ing Tangential Non-Sequitors, Batman!
If queers are considered too out of touch with natural reality to adopt, this post would prove it.
limpyhobbler (147 posts) Wed Dec-07-11 03:03 AM
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7. This is really sad. It sounds like she was at the end of her rope.
Maybe she didn't know what else to do, she couldn't qualify for help, and faced a process designed to intimidate.
Hm-m-m-m...
...maybe self-sufficiency would be easier.
Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-07-11 05:27 AM
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24. It isn't just to intimidate
It is also designed to demean people.
EC (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-07-11 03:11 AM
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10. 18 Pages?
for food stamps? Wow, they really try to discourage people from doing the only responsible thing left them don't they? I'm now wondering if theft is a big problem down there now? It sounds like turning to a life of crime to feed your family may be a more dignified alternative for some.
You should see the paperwork for enlisting in the military. Far more invasive, too.
It's amazing there aren't bodies scattered all around the recruiting stations.
survivorista (20 posts) Wed Dec-07-11 05:26 AM
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23. Just an extension of Paul Ryan`s budget
Um-m-m...
That never passed Harry Reid's desk.
By why let facts get in the way?
JackDragna (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-07-11 02:57 PM
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27. Behold, the fruits of the war on the poor.
Ever notice how the money spent on the War on Poverty is roughly the same as the total National Debt?
And yet...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2438546
