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Gosh, how was that possible in "The Most Transparent Administration Ever?"

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Wait until the primitives figure out that Jonathan Gruber is responsible for Vermont's 'Single Payer' system.....  :popcorn:

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The left is moving the goalposts again.

 
Maine Sen. Angus King: Who cares if ObamaCare architect Jon Gruber thinks voters were deceived about ObamaCare?

 http://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/11/maine-sen-angus-king-who-cares-if-obamacare-architect-jon-gruber-thinks-voters-were-deceived-about-obamacare/

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Megan Kelly also had it on. He can't deny it---hard to talk over the videos of his actual words. He looks exactly like some of the libs we had volunteered with. They were infuriating almost as much as him. There's something about the typical smug attitude, that condescension, that assurance that they are so above the "stupid" people.

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The left is moving the goalposts again.

I wish them the best of luck stuffing that cat back in the bag.   :popcorn:
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Megan Kelly also had it on. He can't deny it---hard to talk over the videos of his actual words. He looks exactly like some of the libs we had volunteered with. They were infuriating almost as much as him. There's something about the typical smug attitude, that condescension, that assurance that they are so above the "stupid" people.

I just watched Kelly's show.  She played a second tape of him calling the public stupid.  She said the Gruber guy had a dozen meetings with WH officials, and one was chaired by the Liar in Chief himself. 
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Gosh, how was that possible in "The Most Transparent Administration Ever?"
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Why yes, yes it is, we have been able to see through it since 2008/9. Not so easily for those wearing rose colored glasses.
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"We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful."

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I hope they keep that son of a bitch on a hot rotation for the tv talking head shows.

Well, that's a double-edged sword. The Obamaites will applaud this jagoff for standing up to Faux News who played right into his "You're turning me in to a victim!" card.
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Fox interviewed a friend of Gruber...


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/11/11/video-interview-gets-tense-in-a-hurry-when-tv-hosts-confront-senator-over-obamacare-architects-revealing-comments/

He's just confirming his communist RED credentials.

Who can forget this communist congressman; "Dingell: It will take a while for ObamaCare to “control the people” ".
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Well, that's a double-edged sword. The Obamaites will applaud this jagoff for standing up to Faux News who played right into his "You're turning me in to a victim!" card.

Let them, we saw how well that worked this election season.
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I hope they keep that son of a bitch on a hot rotation for the tv talking head shows.

They have been on FOX.  In fact, there are now three tapes they've been playing of Gruber calling the voters stupid.  He seems quite proud of misrepresenting this piece of crap legislation to get it passed



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They have been on FOX.  In fact, there are now three tapes they've been playing of Gruber calling the voters stupid.  He seems quite proud of misrepresenting this piece of crap legislation to get it passed

I meant the demtard Senator from Maine.  I hope he becomes the next casualty of obinga's legacy.
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I meant the demtard Senator from Maine.  I hope he becomes the next casualty of obinga's legacy.

He claims to be "Independent". He's as about as independent and Bernie Sanders.

They have been on FOX.  In fact, there are now three tapes they've been playing of Gruber calling the voters stupid.  He seems quite proud of misrepresenting this piece of crap legislation to get it passed





He has been trying to cover up his inadvertent gaffe of telling the truth by claiming the statements on the first tape were "off the cuff" and so on. Not many libs reach the apex of lying like Clinnochio did.
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This would be a question for our legal eagles here: If the Oministration had to "misrepresent the facts" and "intentonally confuse" the public to get something that is detrimental to the public passed, how is that not conspiracy to commit fraud?

Sure, we wouldn't be able to get 0, since he's still in the WH, but we could probably get all these civilian policy wonks. Just imagine the fallout for Dems when the guys who designed 0care get indicted. Which would be made worse when 0 pardons them...

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This would be a question for our legal eagles here: If the Oministration had to "misrepresent the facts" and "intentonally confuse" the public to get something that is detrimental to the public passed, how is that not conspiracy to commit fraud?

Sure, we wouldn't be able to get 0, since he's still in the WH, but we could probably get all these civilian policy wonks. Just imagine the fallout for Dems when the guys who designed 0care get indicted. Which would be made worse when 0 pardons them...

<<<Not a lawyer.  Politicians lie to us all the time and are guilty of fraud, but nothing is done.  The only way I can see any civilians being considered as committing a crime would be if they testified before congress under oath about something.

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This would be a question for our legal eagles here: If the Oministration had to "misrepresent the facts" and "intentonally confuse" the public to get something that is detrimental to the public passed, how is that not conspiracy to commit fraud?

Sure, we wouldn't be able to get 0, since he's still in the WH, but we could probably get all these civilian policy wonks. Just imagine the fallout for Dems when the guys who designed 0care get indicted. Which would be made worse when 0 pardons them...

No matter how much BS and lies went into lobbying for a law, the responsibility for passing it is ultimately on Congress alone, which has a responsibility to review and think about what their doing (Which, of course, the Democrats completely abdicated).  All the bullshitting liars, crooks, and dupes who try to sway them before they vote lose any responsibility for the law when the Congressional vote occurs, though of course there are a lot of lobbying, campaigning, and ethics laws that may get broken and then usually not prosecuted in that process.  Once the Congressional vote occurs, Congresscritters are immune from personal responsibility, either civil or criminal, for their official legislative acts, though of course a lot of the fools, Socialists, and liars in Congress who voted for it were held accountable at the ballot box in subsequent elections.

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The owebumaManiaMedia is loathe to report bad news for owebuma, but slowly they are being shamed into doing their job...


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2014/11/13/cbs-finally-covers-gruber-revealing-obamacare-deception


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...of course a lot of the fools, Socialists, and liars in Congress who voted for it were held accountable at the ballot box in subsequent elections.

29 of the Senators who voted for it won't be in the new senate.

This lists all of them

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/29-senators-who-voted-for-obamacare-and-wont-be-part-of-new-senate/article/2555721 

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Nancy Pelosi caught lying: Never heard of Gruber despite citing him in 2009

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/13/nancy-pelosi-caught-lying-never-heard-of-gruber-de/
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Nancy "Bela" Pelosi continues to prove over and over that she is something right out of a horror movie, just like her namesake.
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