Unified GOP, some Dems, reject Obama's tax plan

[franksolich]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/05/us/politics/05cong.html?_r=2&hp

Oh my.

WASHINGTON — The Senate on Saturday rejected President Obama’s proposal to extend the Bush-era tax breaks for all but the wealthiest taxpayers, a triumph for Republicans who have long called for continuing the income tax cuts for everyone.....

Republicans voted unanimously against the House-passed bill, and they were joined by four Democrats — Senators Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, and Jim Webb of Virginia — as well as by Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, independent of Connecticut.....

[true_blood]

Good. Let's get on the ball over there in Washington with these tax cuts. Do not raises taxes on anyone.

[thundley4]

Feingold?  One of the DUmmie heroes?   

[Chris_]

He won't be coming back next month anyway.

[Chris_]

CBS Frets Over Obama's Liberal Base Being Upset By Possible Tax Deal

On Friday's CBS Early Show, co-host Harry Smith discussed a potential deal between the Obama administration and House Republicans on maintaining current tax rates, declaring: "The Democrats are – their noses are out of joint about this." Political analyst John Dickerson agreed: "Very much so, because they want the President to stand up and fight."

Dickerson went on to detail liberal efforts to put pressure on Obama: "There are ads that are going to be running this weekend saying, 'Don't Cave, Mr. President.' They want Barack Obama to make a stand and say Republicans want tax cuts for the wealthy...and Democrats want tax cuts for the middle-class." He added: "But the President is making a deal and it doesn't look like it's going the way the liberals want and they are very angry."

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[zeitgeist]

Feingold?  One of the DUmmie heroes?   

Snifff Sniffff, whaz dat smell?  Russ Feingold's effigy burnin in he77 (ok, dummy land, close enough).  I haven't been by yet today but can only imagine much wailing and lamentations about this.

[5412]

Good. Let's get on the ball over there in Washington with these tax cuts. Do not raises taxes on anyone.

Hi,

I am still pissed.  When is someone going to explain the truth?  The damn libs spend through the roof then all of a sudden are concerned about the deficit.  They have pulled this crap time and time again and for once the Republicans are saying enough already.

Make the tax rates permanent and stop the crap, then cut spending by the amount of anticipated revenue to the government had the increase been allowed to go into effect.

I have a sincere question to ask folks here on the forum.  Honestly, when is the last time you felt democrats did something for the country that was the right thing to do.....as opposed to what they feel was the politicial thing to do to keep their power?  It is fact that tax cuts create jobs.  What they should be doing is not only not letting the increase go into effect but reducing taxes even more with corresponding spending cuts.

regards,
5412

[Godot showed up]

Snifff Sniffff, whaz dat smell?  Russ Feingold's effigy burnin in he77 (ok, dummy land, close enough).  I haven't been by yet today but can only imagine much wailing and lamentations about this.

I wa stunned when I read 'ole Russ' name, too.

Could it actually be that Feingold saw his lame-duckiness as an opportunity to hoist the digitus impudicus to the hard left, and not as a last chance to **** up America?

[franksolich]

I have a sincere question to ask folks here on the forum.  Honestly, when is the last time you felt democrats did something for the country that was the right thing to do.....

I think it was when Grover Cleveland was president, probably his first term.

But I can't remember what exactly it was.

[BattleHymn]

I wa stunned when I read 'ole Russ' name, too.

Could it actually be that Feingold saw his lame-duckiness as an opportunity to hoist the digitus impudicus to the hard left, and not as a last chance to **** up America?

For whatever reason, I have a feeling that Feingold may try to run for Wisconsin's other Senate seat when it comes up.  I have no evidence, other than a gut feeling.   

[Allentownjake]

I think it was when Grover Cleveland was president, probably his first term.

But I can't remember what exactly it was.

LBJ with the civil rights bill.

[Allentownjake]

Clock is ticking on those Capital Gains taxes. 

Obama is not going to be a happy camper if the only thing he can hang his hat on collapses in mid-December.

[franksolich]

LBJ with the civil rights bill.

Well, to be honest, I personally liked James Carter's attempts for human rights in the rest of the world, although they either fell way short or had the completely opposite effect.

[Mr Mannn]

What is interesting is the utter failure of this lame duck session. nothing the libs planned is going through.

More importantly, the democrats have still not passed a budget for next year. Had they done so they could have funded liberal programs for 2011. But they didn't want the voters to see the tax and spend routine before the election.

By not doing so, this GOP congress can de-fund Obama's socialist programs for 2011, 2012, and 2013.

This is one of the greatest, most epic FAILs the media will never report. They had all the votes to do anything they wanted...and they can't even pass a single bill in a lame duck session.

I certainly hope the RINOs are paying attention...

[Allentownjake]

Well, to be honest, I personally liked James Carter's attempts for human rights in the rest of the world, although they either fell way short or had the completely opposite effect.

Carter always has the Egypt/Israeli peace accords.

There hasn't been a war between Israel and Egypt since that.

Bill internationally has the Irish/English peace accords, however if the IMF and EU are moderately succesful in their attack on Ireland, I suspect that to evaporate quickly.

[txradioguy]

Carter always has the Egypt/Israeli peace accords.

There hasn't been a war between Israel and Egypt since that.

Only becaue we give an obscene amount of "aid" to Egypt every year as an incentive not to try and have their ass handed to them...again...by the IDF.

Bill internationally has the Irish/English peace accords, however if the IMF and EU are moderately succesful in their attack on Ireland, I suspect that to evaporate quickly.

The EU is proving to be a failure.  These "bailouts" are exposing the flaws of the EU to everyone.

Clinton's legacy is Impeachment.  Carters is just as big a failure.  His legacy is "malaise".

[Allentownjake]

No disagreement on the EU.  It is an undemocratic oligarchy that is failing quite quickly.

[txradioguy]

No disagreement on the EU.  It is an undemocratic oligarchy that is failing quite quickly.

IMHO their fatal flaw was the single monetary unit (the Euro) and not allowing each individual country to raise or lower their own interest rate.

[Allentownjake]

IMHO their fatal flaw was the single monetary unit (the Euro) and not allowing each individual country to raise or lower their own interest rate.

Well no succesful political union has seperate currencies.

[Eupher]

Well no succesful political union has seperate currencies.

Well, the U.K. is a political union that incorporates Canada and Australia, doesn't it? Both Canada and Australia have their own currencies apart from the British pound, right?

Having lived almost 15 years in Europe before and during this EU crap was being devised, the only pain in the ass that I recall was having to go through customs at each border and maintaining multiple currencies in your wallet.

[Allentownjake]

Britain, Canada and Australia are not a political union in any other aspect than symbolism.   Other than requesting the Queen to dissolve parliment, there is no union in those countries.

The EU passes laws that are forced onto member states, in order to have a federal system, you need a single currency.

[5412]

Britain, Canada and Australia are not a political union in any other aspect than symbolism.   Other than requesting the Queen to dissolve parliment, there is no union in those countries.

The EU passes laws that are forced onto member states, in order to have a federal system, you need a single currency.

Hi,

The more I see of things I am not so sure the EU was not a step toward a global government....with of course George Soros being the king maker and Obama being the king.  Some day if they get their way the word sovereignty will not be found in the dictionary.  Never paid much attention to the Euro but now I want it to fail.  Just like cap and trade and the UN, I do not want governments to get bigger and more powerful.  We have seen the tip of the iceberg and that is more than enough.

regards,
5412

[txradioguy]

Britain, Canada and Australia are not a political union in any other aspect than symbolism.   Other than requesting the Queen to dissolve parliment, there is no union in those countries.

The EU passes laws that are forced onto member states, in order to have a federal system, you need a single currency.

Considering that it started as a TRADE union and slowly devolved into unified Socialism...they would have been better off staying with separate currencies with each nations central bank set interest rates.  I haven't run across one person while I've lived in Europe that likes the Euro.  They all long for the individualism of their own historic currency.

[true_blood]

Hi,
I am still pissed.  When is someone going to explain the truth?  The damn libs spend through the roof then all of a sudden are concerned about the deficit.  They have pulled this crap time and time again and for once the Republicans are saying enough already.
Make the tax rates permanent and stop the crap, then cut spending by the amount of anticipated revenue to the government had the increase been allowed to go into effect.
I have a sincere question to ask folks here on the forum.  Honestly, when is the last time you felt democrats did something for the country that was the right thing to do.....as opposed to what they feel was the politicial thing to do to keep their power?  It is fact that tax cuts create jobs.  What they should be doing is not only not letting the increase go into effect but reducing taxes even more with corresponding spending cuts.
regards,
5412

I totally agree. Now's not the time, (nor is ever), to have these tax cuts expire.
It will just be another nail in the coffin as well as a 15 cent gas tax on every gallon. Are those "debt commission idiots" insane? How are people supposed to make ends meet with the Bush tax cuts expiring and "possibly" a 15 cent gas tax? Stupid is as stupid does. Liberals have no concept of economics. (Or any sense for that matter.) Only when it hits them in their wallets. Guess what libtards? You'll find out soon enough.

[Eupher]

Britain, Canada and Australia are not a political union in any other aspect than symbolism.   Other than requesting the Queen to dissolve parliment, there is no union in those countries.

The EU passes laws that are forced onto member states, in order to have a federal system, you need a single currency.

Not to pick nits, Jake, but I'd accept this definition before I'd accept your "symbolism" remark. It's a Wiki thing and thus doesn't have the power of something rather official like a Constitution or something, but this works for me:

A Commonwealth realm is a sovereign state within the Commonwealth of Nations that has Elizabeth II as its monarch and head of state.[1] The sixteen current realms have a combined land area of 18.8 million km² (7.3 million mi², excluding Antarctic claims), and a population of 134 million;[2] all but about two million live in the six most populous states: the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, Papua New Guinea, New Zealand, and Jamaica.

So Canada and Australia, along with the others, are "commonwealth realms", evidently. I think that goes a bit farther than "symbolism", don't you?

Just sayin'.    

Lowly Wiki

Your point isn't lost, though. The EU does, in fact, drive the European continent (or tries to) and this, in combination with the Brits having a bit of a hard time with the euro replacing the pound, explains Farage's rather pointed accusations.