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Offline Eupher

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Re: Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2010, 11:43:03 AM »
The same place that gives them the right to demand every citizen have a SS number.

Kinda apples 'n oranges, seems to me.

SS numbers are applicable to social security, that pantheon of liberal virtue as espoused by FDR.

But a National ID isn't tied to any kind of social welfare program that I'm aware of....

...Yet.

But I'm well aware that Obama, Pelosi et. al. are chomping at the bit to enact yet more legislation for yet more federal control in our lives.
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Re: Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2010, 12:13:59 PM »
Barry, Reid, and PeloNazi, want nothing to do with national ID. They're afraid it would effect the number of demonRat votes they can illegally cast.
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Re: Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2010, 12:26:03 PM »
Barry, Reid, and PeloNazi, want nothing to do with national ID. They're afraid it would effect the number of demonRat votes they can illegally cast.

Yep. Any push by the Dems for a national ID would include a push to make it a voter ID a requirement.

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Re: Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2010, 12:41:22 PM »
Yep. Any push by the Dems for a national ID would include a push to make it a voter ID a requirement.

Every time a state tries to make voter ID a requirement, they're immediately attacked and sued by the left to knock it down! I think Arkansas was the last one.
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Re: Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2010, 12:50:01 PM »
We agree Eupher,  I said it would be BS.


Hmm. I'm not getting the connection because you said, "Sounds like a good case for National ID's."

I'm jumbling my comments I reckon.  Perhaps I should have placed that comment after the "devil's advocate"? I am against National ID's, especially when pushed by the Feds.  The louder they scream for it the more I cringe. The argument for ID's is better security but we all agree (here at least, so far) that it's a scam of sorts.  Right? 
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Re: Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2010, 01:22:18 PM »
Every time a state tries to make voter ID a requirement, they're immediately attacked and sued by the left to knock it down! I think Arkansas was the last one.

Actually, it was Georgia.
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Re: Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2010, 01:22:35 PM »
I'm jumbling my comments I reckon.  Perhaps I should have placed that comment after the "devil's advocate"? I am against National ID's, especially when pushed by the Feds.  The louder they scream for it the more I cringe. The argument for ID's is better security but we all agree (here at least, so far) that it's a scam of sorts.  Right? 

Other than voter ID, it's a step toward Big Brother collecting info on law abiding citizens.
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Re: Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2010, 01:29:56 PM »
Actually, it was Georgia.

I knew it was a southern state. Haven't heard, did they find it "unconstitutional" as usual?
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Re: Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2010, 01:42:06 PM »
Voter ID has just passed in our Senate, closer than we've been I believe.

State senators approve bill on photo ID requirement
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COLUMBIA — Legislators have approved a compromise on a bill requiring South Carolina voters to show photo IDs before they cast a ballot.

Senators voted 36-2 on Thursday, ending two days of contentious debate. The bill requires another vote before returning to the House.

The compromise allows 15 days of early voting before an election without an excuse. It says voters can continue to vote absentee within a month of an election by giving an excuse for not being able to vote on Election Day, such as working or being on vacation. The law would not take effect this year.

Senate Democrats had been blocking the legislation with more than 1,000 amendments. Senators hadn't gotten past the first during the filibuster that started Wednesday afternoon.

I think it's safe to say that in the precinct where I worked in our recent primaries that at least 2/3 of the voters used a DL rather than a voter registration card.  Would save a lot of paper and mailing fees to just get rid of those cards.....GO GREEN!  USE YOUR ALREADY PAID FOR, HARD TO DUPLICATE DRIVERS LICENSE!  CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!
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Re: Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2010, 02:06:33 PM »
I'm jumbling my comments I reckon.  Perhaps I should have placed that comment after the "devil's advocate"? I am against National ID's, especially when pushed by the Feds.  The louder they scream for it the more I cringe. The argument for ID's is better security but we all agree (here at least, so far) that it's a scam of sorts.  Right? 

Yup. It's just another tool for the gummint to encroach upon our lives. We've already got access to a Passport (note to self: it expires next May), a driver license (state level); state ID (for those who don't drive); CCW permit (for those who believe in the 2nd Amendment), not to mention all the IDs we have to show to get a job anymore. Mrs. E had to show a physical SS card recently in getting her job - just quoting her number wasn't enough.

Thanks, illegals, for mucking up my life.  :censored:
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Re: Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2010, 02:54:20 PM »
I've been with same employer for over 10 years and just recently had to produce my SS card AGAIN and allow them to copy my marriage license for proof of eligibility to cover hubs on my insurance, the same ins we've been with for those 10 years.  Thanks Obamacare, 

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Re: Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2010, 03:36:06 PM »
I knew it was a southern state. Haven't heard, did they find it "unconstitutional" as usual?

Last I heard, and our friends in GA can answer this better, but I believe it's still held up, so they can't ask for ID as yet.
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Re: Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2010, 05:14:54 AM »
Didn't the SCOTUS uphold an Indiana law for voter ID years ago?  What's changed that would be more than a rubberstamp upholding of a similar law in another state?

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Re: Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2010, 09:48:58 AM »
WI just passed an ID requirement.

We'll have to see if it ends up challenged. I, for the life of me, can't figure out why it would be deemed a COTUS violation.