Israel stands ready to bomb Iran's nuclear sites

[Peter3_1]

The Israeli military is preparing itself to launch a massive aerial assault on Iran's nuclear facilities within days of being given the go-ahead by its new government.

Among the steps taken to ready Israeli forces for what would be a risky raid requiring pinpoint aerial strikes are the acquisition of three Airborne Warning and Control (AWAC) aircraft and regional missions to simulate the attack.

Two nationwide civil defence drills will help to prepare the public for the retaliation that Israel could face.

“Israel wants to know that if its forces were given the green light they could strike at Iran in a matter of days, even hours. They are making preparations on every level for this eventuality. The message to Iran is that the threat is not just words,” one senior defence official told The Times.

Officials believe that Israel could be required to hit more than a dozen targets, including moving convoys. The sites include Natanz, where thousands of centrifuges produce enriched uranium; Esfahan, where 250 tonnes of gas is stored in tunnels; and Arak, where a heavy water reactor produces plutonium.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6115903.ece


Those "Scientists" better turn the stupid nuclear war clock back to two min. to midnight. Looks like the "Twelvers" are going to get what they want, very very soon, anf Obama is on yet another "Road Trip".

[Hawkgirl]

This was inevitable.

[BlueStateSaint]

Over/under at a week or so.

[5412]

Hi,

I think this is an interesting article by the Jewish World Review.  You will see specfic mention of this issue toward the end of the article.  If the article is on target, likely the decision was made by Israel immediately after BO's visit to that part of the world. 

regards,
5412

Subject: Surviving in a post-American world
Jewish World Review April 13, 2009 / 19 Nisan 5769
By Caroline B. Glick

http://www.JewishWorldReview.com | Like it or not, the United States of America is no longer the world's policeman. This was the message of Barack Obama's presidential journey to Britain, France, the Czech Republic, Turkey and Iraq this past week.

Somewhere between apologizing for American history — both distant and recent; genuflecting before the unelected, bigoted king of Saudi Arabia; announcing that he will slash the US's nuclear arsenal, scrap much of America's missile defense programs and emasculate the US Navy; leaving Japan to face North Korea and China alone; telling the Czechs, Poles and their fellow former Soviet colonies, "Don't worry, be happy," as he leaves them to Moscow's tender mercies; humiliating Iraq's leaders while kowtowing to Iran; preparing for an open confrontation with Israel; and thanking Islam for its great contribution to American history, President Obama made clear to the world's aggressors that America will not be confronting them for the foreseeable future.

Whether they are aggressors like Russia, proliferators like North Korea, terror exporters like nuclear-armed Pakistan or would-be genocidal-terror-supporting nuclear states like Iran, today, under the new administration, none of them has any reason to fear Washington.

This news is music to the ears of the American Left and their friends in Europe. Obama's supporters like billionaire George Soros couldn't be more excited at the self-induced demise of the American superpower. CNN's former (anti-)Israel bureau chief Walter Rodgers wrote ecstatically in the Christian Science Monitor on Wednesday, "America's... superpower status, is being downgraded as rapidly as its economy."

The pro-Obama US and European media are so pleased with America's abdication of power that they took the rare step of applauding Obama at his press conference in London. Indeed, the media's enthusiasm for Obama appeared to grow with each presidential statement of contrition for America's past uses of force, each savage attack he leveled against his predecessor George W. Bush, each swipe he took at Israel, and each statement of gratitude for the blessings of Islam he uttered.

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[Hawkgirl]

Post-American world?     Isreal is already banking on our demise? 

[dutch508]

Post-American world?     Isreal is already banking on our demise? 

They've read the writing on the wall. barry is selling them out.

[Chris_]

Post-American world?     Isreal is already banking on our demise? 

If you've read Revelations, you would be too.  In the last days, before the Savior returns, Israel must stand alone.  She can't do that if he strongest ally for the past 50-60 years is continuing to intervene on her behalf.

[Hawkgirl]

If you've read Revelations, you would be too.  In the last days, before the Savior returns, Israel must stand alone.  She can't do that if he strongest ally for the past 50-60 years is continuing to intervene on her behalf.

Well, I read the "Left Behind" series which was a christian series about the Apocalypse...and I have to say, Obama reminds me a lot of the Antichrist in these books
The anti-christ in the book was from Romania..that's the only difference. I recall the book describing him as a "great orator"  one who moves the world towards one currency, one world order, preaches disarmament, and a great deceptor....That's all I remember from the top of my head...but Obama does fit the description.

[Chris]

The last time we had a Democrat in the White House, the PLO got a convenient platform for launching missiles into Israel out of the deal.  Barry's two-state deal would be disastrous.

[Mr Mannn]

Obama the paper tiger will freak when Israel is forced to defend herself. He seems to follow the EU ideal of peace thru weakness.
Its gonna be a long 4 years.

[Chris]

Well, I read the "Left Behind" series which was a christian series about the Apocalypse...and I have to say, Obama reminds me a lot of the Antichrist in these books

The anti-christ in the book was from Romania..that's the only difference. I recall the book describing him as a "great orator"  one who moves the world towards one currency, one world order, preaches disarmament, and a great deceptor....That's all I remember from the top of my head...but Obama does fit the description.

have you read Hal Lindsey's book?  I got a copy of it from the library.  I'm about 35 years late to the party, but its good reading.

[Sam Adams]

Hal Lindsey, and the whole school of eschatology he represents, are completely wrong.

Still, Israel has a right to defend herself. Iran has already said they 1) are developing nuclear weapons and 2) think Isreael should be destroyed. It would be foolish to wait around to see what will happen next.

[Chris]

Hal Lindsey, and the whole school of eschatology he represents, are completely wrong.

Your opinion is noted.  He doesn't seem to be very popular in some circles, but I'm new at this.  Cut me some slack.

Got anything else worth reading?

[Chris]

Still, Israel has a right to defend herself. Iran has already said they 1) are developing nuclear weapons and 2) think Isreael should be destroyed. It would be foolish to wait around to see what will happen next.

I love how liberals will disown a family member over something as simple as an election but will demand peace and tolerance of anyone that is within earshot without any consideration of what the outcome might be. 

Fools.

[Mr Mannn]

So will Obama (that despicable POS) order US military forces currently in Iraq to interfere and stop an IDF strike on Iran?

[BlueStateSaint]

So will Obama (that despicable POS) order US military forces currently in Iraq to interfere and stop an IDF strike on Iran?

Probably when they ask for overflight rights.  They do have three German-built Type 209 subs, though, which are super quiet, and armed with nuclear-capable Israeli-designed and -built cruise missiles.  One of them is supposedly off the Iranian coast at any given time.

[Sam Adams]

Your opinion is noted.  He doesn't seem to be very popular in some circles, but I'm new at this.  Cut me some slack.

Got anything else worth reading?

I was not attacking you, just Lindsey and his school. I read "The Late, Great Planet Earth" by Lindsey when I was a young Christian, and it threw me off track for years. In it, Lindsey predicted the end of the world as we know it within one generation of Israel's founding, which would have been 1988 at the latest.

The problems, in a very few words, with Lindsey's school are: 1) applying the promises and warnings made to ancient Israel to modern Israel; and 2) interpreting the end-times prophecies in an overly literal way.

I would recommend "Last Days Madness" by Gary DeMar, and "The Bible and the Future" by Anthony Hoekema. I would read the last named, first. Those will get you started. Biblical Eschatology is a big subject. Lots has been written about it. You might want to expose yourself to various points of view.

[DumbAss Tanker]

So will Obama (that despicable POS) order US military forces currently in Iraq to interfere and stop an IDF strike on Iran?

That's the million-dollar question.  Basically, I don't see the IAF being able to route it to the target without transitting USAF-dominated airspace, and nothing goes through it without our knowledge and consent, unless it's a one-way mission, even then the chances of getting there without early detection are remote.  If we passively let them through our Gulf or Iraq/Kuwait airspace, it will be regarded as active participation in the strike everywhere outside the US and Western Europe (Where fine legal distinctions like that actually matter).  So while there is a big technical difference in letting them through vs. helping them through, there is no functional difference in the international circles where it would matter.  Actively participating I just don't see Obama buying into.  Actively resisting their passage might be ordered, but carries so much freight with it that the consequences for Obama are on the same order as actively helping.   

[Bluesuiter-Retired]

Lets not forget that Nostrodamus and the Mayan calendar both predict that doomsday will occur on Dec 12, 2012.

If iran launches a nuke tipped missile at Israel and the IDF successfully intercepts the missile, Israel will STILL generate a nuclear strike of its own even though the nuke didn't detonate anywhere in Israel.

[JohnnyReb]

Lets not forget that Nostrodamus and the Mayan calendar both predict that doomsday will occur on Dec 12, 2012.

If iran launches a nuke tipped missile at Israel and the IDF successfully intercepts the missile, Israel will STILL generate a nuclear strike of its own even though the nuke didn't detonate anywhere in Israel.

If that date was Dec 12, 2011, I'd guess it was caused by DUmmie heads exploding during a recount of presidential votes. Dade county being the epicenter.

[Sam Adams]

So will Obama (that despicable POS) order US military forces currently in Iraq to interfere and stop an IDF strike on Iran?

Israel does not need anyone's permission to defend herself, and I doubt Obama would intervene anyway. He could wait for the whole thing to be two or three days old, then "urge restraint" on both sides, no matter who started the conflict, or how it was going.

[Sam Adams]

Probably when they ask for overflight rights.  They do have three German-built Type 209 subs, though, which are super quiet, and armed with nuclear-capable Israeli-designed and -built cruise missiles.  One of them is supposedly off the Iranian coast at any given time.

Overflight rights? What would the Israeli flights be overflying?

[debk]

Well, I read the "Left Behind" series which was a christian series about the Apocalypse...and I have to say, Obama reminds me a lot of the Antichrist in these books
The anti-christ in the book was from Romania..that's the only difference. I recall the book describing him as a "great orator"  one who moves the world towards one currency, one world order, preaches disarmament, and a great deceptor....That's all I remember from the top of my head...but Obama does fit the description.

When I was reading the first books....the Anti-Christ reminded me of Clinton....as he was president at the time. Charismatic, women falling at his feet, etc....

That was before I knew about Obama.

Read Vince Flynn's book Protect and Defend. It's a fiction book, but it's about the Israelis destroying an Iranian nuclear plant.....and the US is blamed because the Iranians don't think it's possible that the Israelis are capable of doing it.

[Hawkgirl]

When I was reading the first books....the Anti-Christ reminded me of Clinton....as he was president at the time. Charismatic, women falling at his feet, etc....

That was before I knew about Obama.

Read Vince Flynn's book Protect and Defend. It's a fiction book, but it's about the Israelis destroying an Iranian nuclear plant.....and the US is blamed because the Iranians don't think it's possible that the Israelis are capable of doing it.

Thanks for the tip, I'll try to find it.
Chris, The Left Behind series is fictitious, it's the writer's interpretation on how the second coming of Christ will unravel....but it is based off the Bible.

[Peter3_1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmxyj6iInMc

I do feel fine......