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Senate passes bailout
« on: October 01, 2008, 09:03:31 PM »
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Senate passes bailout
Plan to buy $700B in troubled assets wins OK. Backers hope add-ons will yield more yes-votes in House.

By Jeanne Sahadi, CNNMoney.com senior writer
Last Updated: October 1, 2008: 9:56 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The Senate on Wednesday night passed a sweeping and controversial financial bailout similar in key ways to one rejected by the House just two days earlier.

The measure was passed by a vote of 74 to 25 after more than three hours of floor debate in the Senate. Both presidential candidates, Sens. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, and John McCain, R-Arizona, voted in favor.

Like the bill the House rejected, the core of the Senate bill is the Bush administration's plan to buy up to $700 billion of troubled assets from financial institutions.

Those assets, mostly mortgage-related, have caused a crisis of confidence in the credit markets. A major aim of the plan is to free up banks to start lending again once their balance sheets are cleared of toxic holdings.

But the Senate legislation also includes a number of new provisions aimed at Main Street.

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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2008, 09:04:05 PM »
Welcome to the slippery slope.
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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 09:06:04 PM »
Welcome to the slippery slope.
Actually, were probably somewhere near half way down it now.
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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 09:08:40 PM »
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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2008, 09:11:13 PM »
Welcome to the slippery slope.
Actually, were probably somewhere near half way down it now.

I was trying to make myself feel better, right now we're just 1 election from the punji sticks at the bottom.
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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2008, 09:15:30 PM »
Welcome to the slippery slope.
Actually, were probably somewhere near half way down it now.

I was trying to make myself feel better, right now we're just 1 election from the punji sticks at the bottom.

McCain voted for it.  I'm beginning to see that imaginary line between Obama and McCain disappear.

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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2008, 09:20:34 PM »
read up on the mandatory mental health parity rider.

this thing is much worse than the House bill.  straight pork pandering.

be sure to shoot your senators.  assuming they voted for this turd.
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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2008, 09:23:55 PM »
I can only  pray that the house votes this down.  Start emailing your congressman!

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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2008, 09:25:24 PM »
Well I'm betting the house will dump this faster then a bag of shit on fire on your front porch.
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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2008, 09:55:13 PM »
Stupid pond scum.
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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2008, 09:56:13 PM »
Well I'm betting the house will dump this faster then a bag of shit on fire on your front porch.

It will fly through the house -- trust me, my political sense is dead on this time.
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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2008, 10:17:44 PM »
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Bailout passes Senate, House foes soften

By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and CHARLES BABINGTON
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WASHINGTON -- After one spectacular failure, the $700 billion financial industry bailout found a second life Wednesday, winning lopsided passage in the Senate and gaining ground in the House, where Republicans opposition softened.

Senators loaded the economic rescue bill with tax breaks and other sweeteners before passing it by a wide margin, 74-25, a month before the presidential and congressional elections.

In the House, leaders were working feverishly to convert enough opponents of the bill to push it through by Friday, just days after lawmakers there stunningly rejected an earlier version and sent markets plunging around the globe.

The measure didn't cause the same uproar in the Senate, where both parties' presidential candidates, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, made rare appearances to cast "aye" votes, as did Obama's running mate, Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware.

In the final vote, 40 Democrats, 33 Republicans and independent Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut voted "yes." Nine Democrats, 15 Republicans and independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont voted "no."

President Bush issued a statement praising the Senate's move. With the revisions, Bush said, "I believe members of both parties in the House can support this legislation. The American people expect and our economy demands that the House pass this good bill this week and send it to my desk."

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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2008, 10:18:46 PM »
I can see November 2 from my house!!!

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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2008, 10:20:31 PM »
Welcome to the slippery slope.

Welcome to getting f**ked in the ***.

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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2008, 10:21:25 PM »
with no reach around, no cab fare, and no phone call the next day!

I can see November 2 from my house!!!

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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2008, 10:50:52 PM »
And no lube. :jerkit:

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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2008, 11:12:19 PM »
There is only one thing these politicians will understand....VOTE them out of office!  I wish McCain would have stood strong on this one and voted against this Bail Out, but he didn't.  That being said, he is still the best choice for President. 
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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2008, 12:53:38 AM »
There is only one thing these politicians will understand....VOTE them out of office!  I wish McCain would have stood strong on this one and voted against this Bail Out, but he didn't.  That being said, he is still the best choice for President. 

Not really. 

But he is the best choice between him and Obama.
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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2008, 08:37:51 AM »
Well I'm betting the house will dump this faster then a bag of shit on fire on your front porch.

It will fly through the house -- trust me, my political sense is dead on this time.


Maybe not fly, but I expect it'll pass despite all the angry constituents.  There is some significant emerging pressure from the business community in the districts that the results of letting the bankruptcies occur would be just too damned unpredictable to be worth the risk.  Some more Congresscritters are likely to vote for it on the what's-good-for-business big picture basis than did, though it's also possible that some who voted for it may change for fear of getting their butts kicked in the election.   Hard to call, but the media's been cheerleading it even more than Obama's candidacy for the past two weeks.   
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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2008, 11:02:13 AM »
House limits constituent emails to prevent crash - http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/house-limits-constituent-e-mails-to-prevent-crash-2008-09-30.html

Good thing I got my nasty-gram to Ms. Congress-shit Musgrave YESTERDAY.

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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2008, 11:20:52 AM »
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Grouped by Home State

Alabama: Sessions (R-AL), Nay Shelby (R-AL), Nay

Alaska: Murkowski (R-AK), Yea Stevens (R-AK), Yea

Arizona: Kyl (R-AZ), Yea McCain (R-AZ), Yea

Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR), Yea Pryor (D-AR), Yea

California: Boxer (D-CA), Yea Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
 
Colorado: Allard (R-CO), Nay Salazar (D-CO), Yea
 
Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Yea Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
 
Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Yea Carper (D-DE), Yea

Florida: Martinez (R-FL), Yea Nelson (D-FL), Nay
 
Georgia: Chambliss (R-GA), Yea Isakson (R-GA), Yea

Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Yea

Idaho: Craig (R-ID), Yea Crapo (R-ID), Nay

Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Yea Obama (D-IL), Yea

Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Yea Lugar (R-IN), Yea
 
Iowa: Grassley (R-IA), Yea Harkin (D-IA), Yea

Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Nay Roberts (R-KS), Nay

Kentucky: Bunning (R-KY), Nay McConnell (R-KY), Yea

Louisiana: Landrieu (D-LA), Nay Vitter (R-LA), Nay
 
Maine: Collins (R-ME), Yea Snowe (R-ME), Yea
 
Maryland: Cardin (D-MD), Yea Mikulski (D-MD), Yea

Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Not Voting Kerry (D-MA), Yea
 
Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Yea Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
 
Minnesota: Coleman (R-MN), Yea Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea

Mississippi: Cochran (R-MS), Nay Wicker (R-MS), Nay
 
Missouri: Bond (R-MO), Yea McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
 
Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Yea Tester (D-MT), Nay
 
Nebraska: Hagel (R-NE), Yea Nelson (D-NE), Yea

Nevada: Ensign (R-NV), Yea Reid (D-NV), Yea

New Hampshire: Gregg (R-NH), Yea Sununu (R-NH), Yea

New Jersey: Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
 
New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Yea Domenici (R-NM), Yea
 
New York: Clinton (D-NY), Yea Schumer (D-NY), Yea

North Carolina: Burr (R-NC), Yea Dole (R-NC), Nay

North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Yea Dorgan (D-ND), Nay

Ohio: Brown (D-OH), Yea Voinovich (R-OH), Yea

Oklahoma: Coburn (R-OK), Yea Inhofe (R-OK), Nay

Oregon: Smith (R-OR), Yea Wyden (D-OR), Nay

Pennsylvania: Casey (D-PA), Yea Specter (R-PA), Yea

Rhode Island: Reed (D-RI), Yea Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea

South Carolina: DeMint (R-SC), Nay Graham (R-SC), Yea

South Dakota: Johnson (D-SD), Nay Thune (R-SD), Yea
 
Tennessee: Alexander (R-TN), Yea Corker (R-TN), Yea
 
Texas: Cornyn (R-TX), Yea Hutchison (R-TX), Yea

Utah: Bennett (R-UT), Yea Hatch (R-UT), Yea

Vermont: Leahy (D-VT), Yea Sanders (I-VT), Nay

Virginia: Warner (R-VA), Yea Webb (D-VA), Yea

Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Nay Murray (D-WA), Yea

West Virginia: Byrd (D-WV), Yea Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea

Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI), Nay Kohl (D-WI), Yea
 
Wyoming: Barrasso (R-WY), Nay Enzi (R-WY), Nay

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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2008, 11:21:58 AM »
well, thank God the senate passed the trillion dollar bailout bill to calm the fears on wall street.  :whatever: I suppose the Dow
would be down more than 225 points if the bailout bill wasn't headed for certain passage.




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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2008, 12:04:49 PM »
I'd bet most of the D that voted nay are up for re-election....I know Johnson(SD) is...
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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2008, 12:52:55 PM »
So what happens when the market tanks another 2000 points after the 700 billion bailout goes through? Because that WILL happen...that is my prediction...you can't stop a correction...just delay it.
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Re: Senate passes bailout
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2008, 04:24:41 PM »
There is only one thing these politicians will understand....VOTE them out of office!  I wish McCain would have stood strong on this one and voted against this Bail Out, but he didn't.  That being said, he is still the best choice for President. 

Not really. 

But he is the best choice between him and Obama.

I guess I wasn't real clear on my statement.  I meant to say, with the choice we have, McCain is the best choice.  Sorry!