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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Chris_ on January 26, 2008, 06:33:35 PM
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COLUMBIA, S.C. - Barack Obama routed Hillary Rodham Clinton in the racially-charged South Carolina primary Saturday night, regaining campaign momentum in the prelude to a Feb. 5 coast-to-coast competition for more than 1,600 Democratic National Convention delegates.
About half the voters were black, according to polling place interviews, and four out of five of them supported Obama. Black women turned out in particularly large numbers. Obama, the first-term Illinois senator, got a quarter of the white vote while Clinton and Edwards split the rest.
Nearly six in 10 voters said the former president's efforts for his wife was important to their choice, and among them, slightly more favored Obama than the former first lady.
Overall, Obama defeated Clinton among both men and women.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/south_carolina_primary
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Exit polls: Bill Clinton's effect
(CNN) — Bill Clinton's aggressive campaigning in South Carolina in the days leading up to the state's primary may have had a negative effect among South Carolina’s Democratic primary voters, CNN exit polls indicate.
Roughly 6 in 10 South Carolina Democratic primary voters said Bill Clinton's campaigning was important in how they ultimately decided to vote, and of those voters, 47 percent went for Barack Obama while only 38 percent went for Hillary Clinton. Fourteen percent of those voters voted for John Edwards
Meanwhile, the exit polls also indicate Obama easily beat Clinton among those voters who decided in the last three days — when news reports heavily covered the former president's heightened criticisms of Obama. Twenty percent of South Carolina Democrats made their decision in the last three days and 57 percent of them chose Obama, while only 18 percent picked Clinton
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/26/exit-polls-bill-clintons-effect/
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How could that happen to the first black President? Looks like the gloss has come off.
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How are the Superdelegates going to vote?
Since the lib race seems to be coming down to a delegate count, these 9 may be important
personally, I'd love nothing more than to see the libs continue fighting through the convention
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Sor far "No Answer" and "Undecided" are leading against HRC 2 to 1. :-)
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/leading-among-the-unpledged/
edit: oooh, Dennis the K has one vote.
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Very glad to see this, as I cannot stand Hillary and Edwards never had much of a chance. What a smackdown for Queen I'm Entitled to the Presidency, Damnit! herself. Now if he can just keep this up and win the nomination!!!!!!!!!!!
And you'd be really surprised at how many of us Dems do NOT want Hillary as the nominee and didn't even want her to run. Not that it makes much difference what hubby and I think, since our primary isn't until June 3, the very last one in the country.
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Very glad to see this, as I cannot stand Hillary and Edwards never had much of a chance. What a smackdown for Queen I'm Entitled to the Presidency, Damnit! herself. Now if he can just keep this up and win the nomination!!!!!!!!!!!
And you'd be really surprised at how many of us Dems do NOT want Hillary as the nominee and didn't even want her to run. Not that it makes much difference what hubby and I think, since our primary isn't until June 3, the very last one in the country.
I agree with you, but not for the reasons you list. Obama is unelectable -- thus I want him as candidate.
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Very glad to see this, as I cannot stand Hillary and Edwards never had much of a chance. What a smackdown for Queen I'm Entitled to the Presidency, Damnit! herself. Now if he can just keep this up and win the nomination!!!!!!!!!!!
And you'd be really surprised at how many of us Dems do NOT want Hillary as the nominee and didn't even want her to run. Not that it makes much difference what hubby and I think, since our primary isn't until June 3, the very last one in the country.
I dunno.
I still think Messalina Agrippina's the one, and you're stuck with her; you'll be singing her praises in circa two months.
Actually, as a conservative Republican, while there's 298,576,689 other Americans I'd sooner see as president, Messalina Agrippina's the Democrat most stomachable to me.
Don't count her out; South Carolina is a small state with a substantial proportion of the population there imagining Barack Hussein Obama is "one of them," when he's one of them about as much as I am.
I love this year; I'm tired of someone getting the nomination (either Republican or Democrat) all "tied up" before the convention.
Of course, we have George McGovern of South Dakota to blame for that; he announced his candidacy in early 1971, for the 1972 Democrat nomination, which was at the time scandalously early. And it's been that way ever since then.
There's been no drama, no excitement, no last-minute deals, surrounding any Democrat candidate since 1960, and any Republican candidate since 1968 (i.e., the party convention started where someone did not already have the necessary votes all in place).
It'd be good for America if we got back to that.
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wasn't 1976 also contested as neither Regan nor Ford had enough votes, until Regan nominated the moderate for VP?
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FOX just reported that Caroline Kennedy in an op ed piece for tomorrow's paper, has compared Obama to her father....
bet that's going to really pffftttt off Hillary. :-)
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wasn't 1976 also contested as neither Regan nor Ford had enough votes, until Regan nominated the moderate for VP?
If I recall correctly--which I might, or might not--Gerald Ford had the nomination wrapped up a few days before the convention, but it was a slender enough of a margin that Ronald Reagan still had hopes of snatching some of those away. But by the time the convention started, Ford did have the majority of votes.
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Clinton seeks to smooth relations with Obama
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080125/pl_nm/usa_politics_clinton_dc
Hillary says Bill may have gotten carried away
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Why do I get so happy when Hillary gets her ass handed to her? :yahoo:
:evillaugh:
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Why do I get so happy when Hillary gets her ass handed to her? :yahoo:
:evillaugh:
I would much rather run against her than the BarackStar.
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Why do I get so happy when Hillary gets her ass handed to her? :yahoo:
:evillaugh:
I would much rather run against her than the BarackStar.
I'm not so sure about that...but regardless...I love to see her defeated...don't rob me of this simple pleasure :tongue:
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FOX just reported that Caroline Kennedy in an op ed piece for tomorrow's paper, has compared Obama to her father....
bet that's going to really pffftttt off Hillary. :-)
The Kennedy clan, Kerry, Gore and Dean do not want Hillary as the nominee. They are bitter that Bubba did very little to help Kerry or Gore get elected Prez.
I hope Obama gets the nomination because I think he would be easier to defeat than the Queen. If elected, it would take him a year or so to get his feet on the ground. Conversely, Hillary would be off and running with her ultra left wing social agenda on day one.
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How are the Superdelegates going to vote?
Since the lib race seems to be coming down to a delegate count, these 9 may be important
personally, I'd love nothing more than to see the libs continue fighting through the convention
Just time to get the popcorn and watch them rip their throats. :rotf: :lmao:
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Why do I get so happy when Hillary gets her ass handed to her? :yahoo:
:evillaugh:
I would much rather run against her than the BarackStar.
I'm not so sure about that...but regardless...I love to see her defeated...don't rob me of this simple pleasure :tongue:
the BarackStar is something completely unknown, and something we haven't seen before. he is brilliant, well spoken, physically attractive, and an african american.
we could be in trouble if he gets the dem nomination.
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Very glad to see this, as I cannot stand Hillary and Edwards never had much of a chance. What a smackdown for Queen I'm Entitled to the Presidency, Damnit! herself. Now if he can just keep this up and win the nomination!!!!!!!!!!!
And you'd be really surprised at how many of us Dems do NOT want Hillary as the nominee and didn't even want her to run. Not that it makes much difference what hubby and I think, since our primary isn't until June 3, the very last one in the country.
Lisa, it was very nice to see the Obama smack down in SC today.
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the BarackStar is something completely unknown, and something we haven't seen before. he is brilliant, well spoken, physically attractive, and an african american.
we could be in trouble if he gets the dem nomination.
Bama Jelly Hussein isn't so brilliant when he is off script. He doesn't wing it well at all. He sort of sounds infantile when he thinks up his own sentences.
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Why do I get so happy when Hillary gets her ass handed to her? :yahoo:
:evillaugh:
Clinton's eating humble pie, my how the Short Bus could have fun with that...
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I seriously doubted anyone could beat the Clinton Machine, but this Obama feller seems poised to pull it off.
I ALMOST look forward to it because it will be fun to watch the libs rip each other a new one while simultaneously vindicating everything the conservatives ever said about ruthlessness of Billary Inc. They will absolutely savage the man in a last-ditch desperate effort to save their careers.
Alas, such charismatic populism will bode ill for the general election. We need to sharpen our game all the more.
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I seriously doubted anyone could beat the Clinton Machine, but this Obama feller seems poised to pull it off.
I ALMOST look forward to it because it will be fun to watch the libs rip each other a new one while simultaneously vindicating everything the conservatives ever said about ruthlessness of Billary Inc. They will absolutely savage the man in a last-ditch desperate effort to save their careers.
Alas, such charismatic populism will bode ill for the general election. We need to sharpen our game all the more.
the clinton machine is already pulling out all the stops. they were flatly in the gutter for the past two days. watch what happens tomorrow; they will gently start suggesting that Barack can only win "black votes".
just judging from what I have seen here in charleston, however, I can assure you all that white people have fallen in love with the guy. if he gets the nomination, and mccain gets ours, I cringe at the thought of seeing mccain and obama on the same debate stage, with his message of change.
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I seriously doubted anyone could beat the Clinton Machine, but this Obama feller seems poised to pull it off.
I ALMOST look forward to it because it will be fun to watch the libs rip each other a new one while simultaneously vindicating everything the conservatives ever said about ruthlessness of Billary Inc. They will absolutely savage the man in a last-ditch desperate effort to save their careers.
Alas, such charismatic populism will bode ill for the general election. We need to sharpen our game all the more.
the clinton machine is already pulling out all the stops. they were flatly in the gutter for the past two days. watch what happens tomorrow; they will gently start suggesting that Barack can only win "black votes".
just judging from what I have seen here in charleston, however, I can assure you all that white people have fallen in love with the guy. if he gets the nomination, and mccain gets ours, I cringe at the thought of seeing mccain and obama on the same debate stage, with his message of change.
They already started today. Bill said something about Jesse Jackson winning SC. ::)
People are seeing that the nastiness is coming from the Clinton camp.
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I seriously doubted anyone could beat the Clinton Machine, but this Obama feller seems poised to pull it off.
I ALMOST look forward to it because it will be fun to watch the libs rip each other a new one while simultaneously vindicating everything the conservatives ever said about ruthlessness of Billary Inc. They will absolutely savage the man in a last-ditch desperate effort to save their careers.
Alas, such charismatic populism will bode ill for the general election. We need to sharpen our game all the more.
the clinton machine is already pulling out all the stops. they were flatly in the gutter for the past two days. watch what happens tomorrow; they will gently start suggesting that Barack can only win "black votes".
just judging from what I have seen here in charleston, however, I can assure you all that white people have fallen in love with the guy. if he gets the nomination, and mccain gets ours, I cringe at the thought of seeing mccain and obama on the same debate stage, with his message of change.
My wife has taken to listening to his sound bites when he is on the news. She is becoming Obama'd because he is preaching a message where the clintoon's are still playing politcs.
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I seriously doubted anyone could beat the Clinton Machine, but this Obama feller seems poised to pull it off.
I ALMOST look forward to it because it will be fun to watch the libs rip each other a new one while simultaneously vindicating everything the conservatives ever said about ruthlessness of Billary Inc. They will absolutely savage the man in a last-ditch desperate effort to save their careers.
Alas, such charismatic populism will bode ill for the general election. We need to sharpen our game all the more.
the clinton machine is already pulling out all the stops. they were flatly in the gutter for the past two days. watch what happens tomorrow; they will gently start suggesting that Barack can only win "black votes".
just judging from what I have seen here in charleston, however, I can assure you all that white people have fallen in love with the guy. if he gets the nomination, and mccain gets ours, I cringe at the thought of seeing mccain and obama on the same debate stage, with his message of change.
My wife has taken to listening to his sound bites when he is on the news. She is becoming Obama'd because he is preaching a message where the clintoon's are still playing politcs.
"change" is a retarded platform, although we all know it worked for the bildo.
change to what? you would think that we lived in nazi germany and were suffering from the great depression.
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Change, experience; all they have is a few tag lines and bumper sticker slogans - the losers that make up her team (and I call them losers because they never win anything) are campaigning her as if they are trying to introduce her to us as a new candidate instead of trying to hide who she really is, which is what they should have done.
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Why do I get so happy when Hillary gets her ass handed to her? :yahoo:
:evillaugh:
I would much rather run against her than the BarackStar.
I'm not so sure about that...but regardless...I love to see her defeated...don't rob me of this simple pleasure :tongue:
the BarackStar is something completely unknown, and something we haven't seen before. he is brilliant, well spoken, physically attractive, and an african american.
we could be in trouble if he gets the dem nomination.
I hear what you're saying...but this is how I intepret it.
Republicans and Barach stand united in destroying Hillary's run for the presidency. Barack is doing the legwork for us. Obviously, he's doing it for his best interest, but we will benefit from this. The republican nominee doesn't have to get down and dirty with the Clintons. The debates will be about ISSUES with Obama. He doesn't stand a chance unless Americans really DO want universal healthcare and higher taxes.
This is the best thing that can happen to the Republican Party.
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I thought the best thing that could happen to the Republican party was Ron Paul??
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:
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Why do I get so happy when Hillary gets her ass handed to her? :yahoo:
:evillaugh:
I would much rather run against her than the BarackStar.
I'm not so sure about that...but regardless...I love to see her defeated...don't rob me of this simple pleasure :tongue:
the BarackStar is something completely unknown, and something we haven't seen before. he is brilliant, well spoken, physically attractive, and an african american.
we could be in trouble if he gets the dem nomination.
I hear what you're saying...but this is how I intepret it.
Republicans and Barach stand united in destroying Hillary's run for the presidency. Barack is doing the legwork for us. Obviously, he's doing it for his best interest, but we will benefit from this. The republican nominee doesn't have to get down and dirty with the Clintons. The debates will be about ISSUES with Obama. He doesn't stand a chance unless Americans really DO want universal healthcare and higher taxes.
This is the best thing that can happen to the Republican Party.
I agree, but the other way around.
the barackstar is unvetted in a national election. we all know what hillary is up to.
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I thought the best thing that could happen to the Republican party was Ron Paul??
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:
Ok...you got me there...Barack as the democratic nominee is the 2nd best thing that can happen to the Democratic Party.... :bigbird:
Ron Paul was the wet dream... :puke:
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I thought the best thing that could happen to the Republican party was Ron Paul??
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:
wrong allegedly conservative board.
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I thought the best thing that could happen to the Republican party was Ron Paul??
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:
It could be if he would run as a third party. I have changed my mind about that possibility being a bad thing. Paul would garner 100% of the wacko vote, which is about 10% of the voting public, which is about 92% moonbat. Paul could do some real damage to the democrats.
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I thought the best thing that could happen to the Republican party was Ron Paul??
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:
It could be if he would run as a third party. I have changed my mind about that possibility being a bad thing. Paul would garner 100% of the wacko vote, which is about 10% of the voting public, which is about 92% moonbat. Paul could do some real damage to the democrats.
Actually I wonder if Paul would run as 3rd party. *shrug*
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I thought the best thing that could happen to the Republican party was Ron Paul??
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:
It could be if he would run as a third party. I have changed my mind about that possibility being a bad thing. Paul would garner 100% of the wacko vote, which is about 10% of the voting public, which is about 92% moonbat. Paul could do some real damage to the democrats.
you are wrong, my friend. paul is consistently getting 10% of the republican vote. the general election will be a close run thing. even if he siphons off 1 or 2 percent, it could be crucial. remember ralph nader in forida?
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I thought the best thing that could happen to the Republican party was Ron Paul??
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:
wrong allegedly conservative board.
This isn't the mock paul forum?
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Everytime WE calls him BarackStar, I want to throw him a basketball. :clueless:
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Everytime WE calls him BarackStar, I want to throw him a basketball. :clueless:
he looks as inept at sports as the retarded kid that everyone always picked last at kickball back in grade school.
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I bet he was his team's captain. :moon:
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Everytime WE calls him BarackStar, I want to throw him a basketball. :clueless:
he looks as inept at sports as the retarded kid that everyone always picked last at kickball back in grade school.
He doesn't look that way to me.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/firelatte/Misc/BF194231.jpg) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/firelatte/Misc/IMG_0503.jpg) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/firelatte/Misc/_MG_0415.jpg)
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See, I knew it. :tongue:
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Everytime WE calls him BarackStar, I want to throw him a basketball. :clueless:
he looks as inept at sports as the retarded kid that everyone always picked last at kickball back in grade school.
He doesn't look that way to me.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/firelatte/Misc/BF194231.jpg) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/firelatte/Misc/IMG_0503.jpg) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/firelatte/Misc/_MG_0415.jpg)
it doesn't count. he was dribbling past a white boy.
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isn't that also his campaign manager?
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Everytime WE calls him BarackStar, I want to throw him a basketball. :clueless:
he looks as inept at sports as the retarded kid that everyone always picked last at kickball back in grade school.
He doesn't look that way to me.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/firelatte/Misc/BF194231.jpg) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/firelatte/Misc/IMG_0503.jpg) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/firelatte/Misc/_MG_0415.jpg)
it doesn't count. he was dribbling past a white boy.
:rimshot:
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you are wrong, my friend. paul is consistently getting 10% of the republican vote. the general election will be a close run thing. even if he siphons off 1 or 2 percent, it could be crucial. remember ralph nader in forida?
Where has Paul gotten 10% of the republican vote? I wasn't aware any votes had be cast in a contest where crossover voting wasn't allowed.
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isn't that also his campaign manager?
No he's from Sports Illustrated
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/the_point_after/12/24/obama1231/ (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/the_point_after/12/24/obama1231/)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0712/price.obama/content.1.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0712/price.obama/content.1.html)
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oh.
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the clinton machine is already pulling out all the stops. they were flatly in the gutter for the past two days. watch what happens tomorrow; they will gently start suggesting that Barack can only win "black votes".
just judging from what I have seen here in charleston, however, I can assure you all that white people have fallen in love with the guy. if he gets the nomination, and mccain gets ours, I cringe at the thought of seeing mccain and obama on the same debate stage, with his message of change.
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The Clinton's are old dirt. Obama is new dirt. :rotf:
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How are the Superdelegates going to vote?
Since the lib race seems to be coming down to a delegate count, these 9 may be important
personally, I'd love nothing more than to see the libs continue fighting through the convention
Well, we kinda feel the same way watching how the repub vote has been shaking out as well. :-)
It seems to me that if things keep up the way they are, you guys will be fighting through the convention as well as we might be. I know that a lot of repubs aren't happy at all with your choices, and are uneasy about either Romney or McCain getting the nomination. A couple that I know say they wish they could take bits and pieces from each candidate and put them all together into one, but they are not at all happy with the choices the way they are now.
God, I'd love to see Hillary get smacked down good at the convention. And every time Bill opens his mouth, he sticks his foot in it FOR her.
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I thought the best thing that could happen to the Republican party was Ron Paul??
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:
It could be if he would run as a third party. I have changed my mind about that possibility being a bad thing. Paul would garner 100% of the wacko vote, which is about 10% of the voting public, which is about 92% moonbat. Paul could do some real damage to the democrats.
Us moonbats vote for a candidate who wants to abolish not just the IRS but almost all federal agencies? I think not. :-)
Of course, he never has explained how he would actually get paid if there were no taxes, or just what he'd do the defend the country if there were no military, but he's on his own planet, anyway, so never mind.
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I thought the best thing that could happen to the Republican party was Ron Paul??
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:
It could be if he would run as a third party. I have changed my mind about that possibility being a bad thing. Paul would garner 100% of the wacko vote, which is about 10% of the voting public, which is about 92% moonbat. Paul could do some real damage to the democrats.
Us moonbats vote for a candidate who wants to abolish not just the IRS but almost all federal agencies? I think not. :-)
Of course, he never has explained how he would actually get paid if there were no taxes, or just what he'd do the defend the country if there were no military, but he's on his own planet, anyway, so never mind.
Lisa, I could point you to several die-hard moonbats who worship Dr. Nuts. Look them up on MySpace or FruitFace or whatever. They abound! These nutzoids would never vote for a republican in two million years, yet they think Dr. Nuts is the second coming of Abbie Hoffman.
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Carville and Begala Removed from CNN
Okay, this is interesting. I've just learned that CNN has told top Dem strategists James Carville, Paul Begala, and Robert Zimmerman -- who are CNN mainstays but are all Hillary supporters -- that they will not be doing any more political analysis on the network until the Democratic primary has reached a conclusion.
I'm also told that this move came after the Obama campaign repeatedly complained to high level officials at CNN about the presence of Carville and Begala on the network.
After I reached him today and pointed out that he hadn't been on CNN in some time, Carville confirmed to me that the network had told him that he wouldn't appear until the Dem primary is resolved.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2008/01/cnn_says_no_mor.php
http://cadillactight.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/carville-and-begala-banned-from-cnn-due-to-obama-campaign-complaints/
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Carville and Begala Removed from CNN
Almost sounds like the work of Teh Rove.
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just dont forget people... Hillary still has far more delegates than Obama at this point. :popcorn:
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just dont forget people... Hillary still has far more delegates than Obama at this point. :popcorn:
you sure about that, lauri?
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just don't forget people... Hillary still has far more delegates than Obama at this point. :popcorn:
But the Undecideds dwarfs them both.
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just dont forget people... Hillary still has far more delegates than Obama at this point. :popcorn:
you sure about that, lauri?
Yes, in committed delegates, Hillary Clinton leads Obama by half again.
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just dont forget people... Hillary still has far more delegates than Obama at this point. :popcorn:
you sure about that, lauri?
Yes, in committed delegates, Hillary Clinton leads Obama by half again.
ah, cool (I suppose :-))
thanks for the info.
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just dont forget people... Hillary still has far more delegates than Obama at this point. :popcorn:
you sure about that, lauri?
i saw last night that she had almost 100 more than Obama after South Carolina... and yes, that doesnt include the 'undecided' .. but she is still in the lead so far.
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just dont forget people... Hillary still has far more delegates than Obama at this point. :popcorn:
you sure about that, lauri?
The total amount of delegates in the states that held elections so far is a piddling amount. A Democrat has to get over 2,000 delegates to win the nomination.
i saw last night that she had almost 100 more than Obama after South Carolina... and yes, that doesnt include the 'undecided' .. but she is still in the lead so far.
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Clinton Inc has known since ‘92 they don’t have to win the popular vote to take the office...which is why they never worried about their less than majority popular vote totals in two general elections.
And if you notice...according to Real Clear Politics...Her Thighness has a good sized lead in delegates over Obama.
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the commentator last night on FOX was using Real Clear Politics for their polling numbers... that was a first to hear her say that. For me, anyway..