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begin_within  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Aug-30-09 11:33 PM
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Catholic priest during his homily today called Ted Kennedy "not a good Catholic"
   
I don't go to church of my own accord any more. But my Mom is 90 and in a wheelchair and very devout, so I take her and sit with her for her sake. Today the (roughly 70 or 75 year old) priest started out his sermon with about 5 minutes of denouncing Ted Kennedy as "not a good Catholic" and "honoring his principles but not his faith," specifically regarding his support of abortion rights. He went on to expound on how each of us listening to this must honor not only our worldly principles but must honor our faith and its teachings at the same time. When I take her next week I'm going to insert a note into the collection envelope (with no money) but I'm still deciding what that will say. Any suggestions?

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JanusAscending  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Aug-30-09 11:37 PM
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1.  " Judge not, lest ye be judged"!
   
Edited on Sun Aug-30-09 11:39 PM by JanusAscending
or...if the Pope can give Ted absolution, does he place himself higher than the Pope ??? P.S. you also could add..."He who is without sin, should cast the first stone"!!!

This passage is a favorite of the left only they leave out the last bit, "go, and sin no more"
That last little bit proves that Jesus was not anything goes like they claim. If Jesus wasn't against sin he would have said "go, and carry on" or something to that affect. The point in this story that they miss is if we repent and change our ways or at least make the attempt to sin no more then we can be forgiven. It is not a license to do as you wish.

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ZombieHorde  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Aug-30-09 11:41 PM
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3. "not a good Catholic"
   
Sounds like a compliment to me. What kind of person would want to be a good Catholic?

Some religion bashing from the tolerant left.

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glinda  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Aug-30-09 11:57 PM
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10. Ted was both a good Senator and a good progressive Catholic.

Yeah I'd say he was a good progressive catholic he got to pick and choose what parts he should follow.

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bobbolink  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Aug-30-09 11:47 PM
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5. An old priest who is not familiar with the concept of "judge not".
   
That's really sad.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall when he meets his maker.

Hmm I wonder who has a better chance of making it to heaven. Someone who believed and followed what the Bible says or a primitive who twists the words of Jesus into a license to sin.

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imdjh  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Aug-31-09 12:04 AM
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14. Print neatly, "**** off you lying hypocritical bastard. You have a nerve...
   
.... even saying the name of a person who has made a real difference in the world. It's a wonder your stupid tongue doesn't burst into flames. You want to talk about being a good person? Disassociate yourself from that murdering jackass in the Vatican who tells people in Africa that condoms cause AIDS, who wears gold trimmed clothing, and FORTY THOUSAND DOLLAR VESTMENTS while telling others that they need to be generous and to help the poor. You God damned piece of shit, I can barely stand to look at you and you have the nerve to say that Ted Kennedy wasn't a good person? **** off."

Respectfully,

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Real classy.

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OHdem10  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Aug-31-09 12:27 AM
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23. The Priest might be a little surprised when he gets to Heaven.
   
Judge not. This is probably some Republican Priest.
   

 :whatever:

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33. Ask him why
   
Why is it that the church feels it has a duty to speak out against lawmakers who support abortion rights but never seem to say much about the ones who support capital punishment.

Capital punishment was one of God's laws.

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43. Typical
   
religious bullshit. I don't give a flying **** what any priest thinks about anything.

 :whatever:

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seabeyond  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Aug-31-09 08:16 AM
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50. anytime a minister singles a person out adn declares and judges the person christianity, they are
   
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 08:17 AM by seabeyond
being unchristian.

it is not his place to state a "good" christian or not. that alone make the priest a "bad" christian. christ is in the heart and only he can judge

So it's your place to judge the priest?  :whatever:

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marmar  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Aug-31-09 08:19 AM
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52. Apparently by that he meant, "He didn't accept total church brainwashing"   Updated at 8:12 AM
   
n/t

yeah because you get to pick and choose what teachings you follow.



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This passage is a favorite of the left only they leave out the last bit, "go, and sin no more"
That last little bit proves that Jesus was not anything goes like they claim. If Jesus wasn't against sin he would have said "go, and carry on" or something to that affect. The point in this story that they miss is if we repent and change our ways or at least make the attempt to sin no more then we can be forgiven. It is not a license to do as you wish.

Some religion bashing from the tolerant left.

Yeah I'd say he was a good progressive catholic he got to pick and choose what parts he should follow.

Hmm I wonder who has a better chance of making it to heaven. Someone who believed and followed what the Bible says or a primitive who twists the words of Jesus into a license to sin.

Real classy.

 :whatever:

Capital punishment was one of God's laws.

 :whatever:

So it's your place to judge the priest?  :whatever:

yeah because you get to pick and choose what teachings you follow.




Complete horseshit! Teddy wasn't a good Catholic but a priest isn't going to do that during a mass! :lmao:
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If the OP was really that offended by The Fat One being labelled as a bad Catholic, why didn't they  stand up and protest right then. Why take the cowards way out and put an anonymous note in an otherwise empty envelope in the collection plate?  The only reason the DUmmie puts an envelope in the collection plate is to swap out a couple with cash in them.

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Contrary1 (1000+ posts)      Mon Aug-31-09 04:03 AM
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38. I used to be "a good Catholic".
 I can tell you the exact moment that changed. I was on the parish council. During one of the meetings, the subject of giving came up. "Time, talent, treasure" the pastor announced was what everyone should give to the best of their ability.

I had no problem with that, but then he continued. He stated that if a serious accident were to happen right in front of the church that involved a parishioner who failed to give, he would have to debate whether or not he should go and minister to that person or persons.
I lost my religion that night, but never my faith.

"Judge not, lest ye be judged".

A freeper post I read indicated that Ted Kennedy should burn in hell for eternity. They qualified their statement that they hoped God would forgive them if they were wrong in their assessment. So, in that poster's world, it's A-ok to judge another if the judgment turns out to be correct.

I don't recall that qualifier being part of the sermon. Maybe I slept in that Sunday.
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The above bolded really irritates me to no end. What a flat out ****ing lie! That goes against everything Priests are taught in the seminary! Jesus! anything to bash religion! :whatever:
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Reading the DUmp on anything that involves "Christianity" may not make a person believe in God but it would make it awful hard to argue there is no Satan.

There is no Satan or hell for DUmmies....to get into hell you have to have certain principles and the DUmmies have none....ergo, hell wouldn't have them.
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They've still never figured out the "Judge not" passage (Matt 7:1).  They still believe if someone is doing something they shouldn't then a Christian can't tell them that it's wrong.  It's things like this that make their vain attmepts to try and use Biblical scripture against those who understand it what it really means quite laughable, and they're too dimwitted to understand why it doesn't work.

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begin_within  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Aug-30-09 11:33 PM
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Catholic priest during his homily today called Ted Kennedy "not a good Catholic"
   
I don't go to church of my own accord any more. But my Mom is 90 and in a wheelchair and very devout, so I take her and sit with her for her sake. Today the (roughly 70 or 75 year old) priest started out his sermon with about 5 minutes of denouncing Ted Kennedy as "not a good Catholic" and "honoring his principles but not his faith," specifically regarding his support of abortion rights. He went on to expound on how each of us listening to this must honor not only our worldly principles but must honor our faith and its teachings at the same time. When I take her next week I'm going to insert a note into the collection envelope (with no money) but I'm still deciding what that will say. Any suggestions?



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There is no Satan or hell for DUmmies....to get into hell you have to have certain principles and the DUmmies have none....ergo, hell wouldn't have them.

I disagree.

To the DUmmies, Republicans = Satan, and the last 8 years were hell....

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