To the best of my knowledge, this is the first water aerobics bouncy in DUmp history:
mahina (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-25-09 06:06 PM
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A woman who has always been friendly astonished me at the Y yesterday.
In five minutes this woman who I've always had a pleasant relationship with explained to me that:
1. Obama hates the Constitution and America
2. She is AFRAID. Seriously afraid.
3. She's glad the health care bill is in trouble
4. she understands why people would want to shoot him
5. he is a socialist.
For the next hour we discussed politics while the rest of the class went on with their excercise. (H2O Aerobics- we stayed at the other end of the pool.)
I made every point that you all know already. Constitutional scholar, LOVES America, health care needs reform, ?socialist?, how can anyone talk about assasinating our President because they are patriotic? etc.
This conversation changed the way I feel about that person completely. I now consider her a nut and a threat. This woman is a nurse, basically a good person, whose mind has been so corrupted by the poison that Fox 'news' spews.
I already lost an uncle to this hate- a liflong relationship that I would never in a million years have thought he would sacrifice for political disagreement. When the rank and file consumers of their hate start talking about killing, we have a big, big problem. She is no risk to our President, but the thinking that she's bought into is a huge risk to all of us.
I've always thought that it's our job to bring people together and talk to others who disagree, so I told her I'll make her a cd of some of his speeches, and if she'll listen to them, we can talk again. I don't expect she will though.
We underestimate the power of this fear and hatred at our country's peril.
I wonder what this DUmmy's reaction would be if she knew what the 'C' in 'YMCA' means. As goofy as this bouncy tale is, the DUmmies, as always, believe every word of it, nod their heads wisely, and in a few cases, become inspired to manufacture similar tales of their own:
Stardust (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-25-09 06:25 PM
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8. And we wonder how the Germans could've let the Nazis take over.
They are masters at this propaganda game. I'd bet anything that Karl Rove has studied Goebbels extensively.
I, too, am very afraid for our country. I look around at the youth and they seem to be oblivious to what's happening. (Not all, of course, but a frightening majority.) And when you try to warn people, they get tired of it really fast. Avoiding the subject has become a family pasttime. I've long since given up on my generation (****ing boomers). The RWers have always been there, very vocal, very rigid, and very angry. Personally, I'm glad I won't be around to see what this country is bound to turn into. The Grand Experiment: FAIL
mahina (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-25-09 06:35 PM
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16. I have "why Americans Hate Politics" by E J Dionne and will review this week.
Usually we don't talk about politics at the gym. Wonder why that is, that sometimes its ok and other times in our community life we know it's not ok. Maybe as at the dinner table, the fear is that people are going to get overexcited and hate each other or hurt each other.
DebbieCDC (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-25-09 06:39 PM
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19. Stardust, I agree with you
I'm of the boomer generation too and am sick to death of what I see in people my own age.
The ones I feel sorry for are my nieces and nephews -- in their late teens and early 20's now -- who will have to live 50 or 60 years with all this SHIT in this country.
I, too, feel sorry for these kids. They have a real douchebag for an aunt.
Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-25-09 06:16 PM
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2. They have Freepers like that in Hawaii now?
Well, actually maybe that's a good thing. She can go to the Department of Health, request to see the hard copy of Obama's birth certificate, and then tell all the other Freepers to shut the **** up about it.
No chance of that. The hard copy is still at a Kinko's in Abilene. It says he was born August 12
th.
Cleita (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-25-09 06:19 PM
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4. Fox News watcher and Rush Limbaugh listener quite simply.
Time to argue back now that she has admitted that this is where she gets her information. Then tell her that she is being lied to by a drug addict and an Australian tabloid corporate news owner....blah, blah, marxist blah,.. Knowing the facts and the truth will make you invincible. The fact that she spent an hour with you means she does want to discuss this. Make your argument forceful and well sourced the next time you encounter her if she doesn't avoid you.
DUmmy Cleita is one moonbat who really knows how to make and keep friends.
Stardust (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-25-09 06:46 PM
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24. I'm still astonished when I hear people bash socialism. Haven't they even heard of
Sweden or Denmark? I've been to all the Scandinavian countries and lived in both communist and socialist countries, and had several good friends from there. And let me tell you...unless economics plays a part, most of them don't want what we have (or don't have.)
DUmmies are right at the verge of actually using the term "workers' paradise".
DUmmy jumbledletters gets excited enough to spin a secondary bouncy.
mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-25-09 06:22 PM
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5. This has happened, I believe, to a woman I worked with many years ago.
She seemed quite open-minded at the time (but I was her boss, so maybe she didn't express herself).
Recently I joined Facebook and I've been posting stuff about health care costs, public option, etc.
This woman is against everything Obama; she believes in capitalism like it's a religion; she offers
all the Repub talking points about costs--that are easily disputed with facts--and so on.
It's very sad. I'm sure she listens to Faux news religiously and doesn't have a personal relationship
with anyone she sees regularly who can offer another point of view.
It's very scary. The overwhelming presence of media designed to brainwash rather than offer information
is going to lead to the destruction of community fabric in this country. All these people want or care about is getting and protecting theirs--money, property,place in society.
The unmistakeable tipoff that it's a bouncy is the offhand comment, "I was her boss". No DUmmy is ever the boss of anyone, unless maybe training a new kid how to shake salt over the fries.
This is a terrific bonfire. DUmmy jimshoes even tosses out a tertiary bouncy:
jimshoes (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-25-09 06:33 PM
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14. I have (had) a very good friend with whom I
hadn't talked to in a few years. He left a message as I was out so I called him back and within 5 minutes had covered every faux talking point from the "birth certificate" to "he's a socialist" and all the rest. The rest of the conversation was quite short and eminently pointless. He'd been washed, rinsed, soaked and blow dried on faux nooz. Too bad, we had a lot of laughs back in the day.
