A conversation with a retired school teacher

[17 Oaks]

'K' has been retired 3 years, she has a masters degree, taught English (I guess)

K, what do you think about 'CSCOPE' which is teaching our kids to love communism and socialism and hate captialism?  I saw one of the lesson plans the other day and it tells kids they are in a New country (America) and it needs a new flag and for them to design it (examples given are the Russian, Chinese and Muslim symbol with moon and stars)  The word capitalism was printed with a line drawn thru it.

K:  I think that is GREAT, they need to learn about this!

WHAT, you agree that communism and socialism should be taught and capitalism taught as bad?  You know CSPOPE is based upon the Obama Common goals thinking?

YES!  I think its good!

Well then what do you think about Obama's "Hitler Youth Movement' effort of starting kids in school as young as age 3, in a mandatory federal run program.

That is very good, kids need to start school earlier!

Not sure I want the feds mandating what is taught, do you think the feds can raise kids better than you?

Sure they can everyone will get the same education won't they!

Well yes but teaching the communism and socialism at age 3 is not what we do in America!

Obama has the right idea, I like his views on education and support them 100% you should too.

Sorry K, I am an American!!!!!!!!

Could not believe my ears...

[liberty]

Wow...I am so glad that she is retired!
 
 It's to bad that there are more like her, though.

[rich_t]

Sounds like a made up story to me.

[liberty]

Sounds like a made up story to me.

Don't be so sure... I'm attending night classes a community college right now, and quite a few of my teachers would say the same thing.

[17 Oaks]

Sounds like a made up story to me.

NO!!!!!  I also resent that, if it was made up I would say so or write it in a satirical manner...

She is a nut job I ought to know I am trying to buy her place and have been for over a year.  At first I made here an offer on her land and she said no, it was land and house or no go.  Then she said What I really want is to live here the rest of my life, but I want the money from the property.  I told her I would see what I could do.  I got with some folks who are friends and we came up with a good plan, but they advised against it because it was not that good of a deal for me:  I offered her 20% down, payout in 10 years and she could live there the rest of her life paying only for utilities...This was a sweet deal for her and I saw it as not wanting the house to begin with no big deal if I did not generate an income from rental.  Well looking back on I was lucky, she turned me down...showing how stupid she really is...the reason why was she found out here property was considered 'commercial property due to a small slice of frontage on the I 10 frontage road.  While I agreed with her I said neither she nor I or our kids and at best maybe grandkids will see the city out this far.  At this time it has zero commercial value.  To make it worse the piece of property sets in a wet weather creek near the base of a large hill.  I ponited out the changes of building there are slim and none, expecially due to the massive concrete drainage that goes along side the small piece of property...you would have to build a bridge over it and I suspect get the structure at least 6 feet above the ground level.

She voted for Obama TWICE!!!!!!

[rich_t]

NO!!!!!  I also resent that, if it was made up I would say so or write it in a satirical manner...

She is a nut job I ought to know I am trying to buy her place and have been for over a year.  At first I made here an offer on her land and she said no, it was land and house or no go.  Then she said What I really want is to live here the rest of my life, but I want the money from the property.  I told her I would see what I could do.  I got with some folks who are friends and we came up with a good plan, but they advised against it because it was not that good of a deal for me:  I offered her 20% down, payout in 10 years and she could live there the rest of her life paying only for utilities...This was a sweet deal for her and I saw it as not wanting the house to begin with no big deal if I did not generate an income from rental.  Well looking back on I was lucky, she turned me down...showing how stupid she really is...the reason why was she found out here property was considered 'commercial property due to a small slice of frontage on the I 10 frontage road.  While I agreed with her I said neither she nor I or our kids and at best maybe grandkids will see the city out this far.  At this time it has zero commercial value.  To make it worse the piece of property sets in a wet weather creek near the base of a large hill.  I ponited out the changes of building there are slim and none, expecially due to the massive concrete drainage that goes along side the small piece of property...you would have to build a bridge over it and I suspect get the structure at least 6 feet above the ground level.

She voted for Obama TWICE!!!!!!

I stand corrected.

[17 Oaks]

I stand corrected.

Thank you, I may joke and write satire, but I assure that you will know when I am just kidding on something usually satire.

High 5 for you!

[formerlurker]

I have never heard of CSCOPE.  Is this a local thing?

[Freeper]

I have never heard of CSCOPE.  Is this a local thing?

I've heard Beck mention it, not sure of the details but he says they are attempting to make it nationwide.

[17 Oaks]

I have never heard of CSCOPE.  Is this a local thing?

Its on its way to be nation wide if not already...  http://www.cscope.us

[Eupher]

I stand corrected.

Mrs E is a current schoolteacher.

Trust me, 99% of her compadres are full-blown moonbats that happen to have jobs. They are unionistas and think the government is the answer to all our problems. 

[Dori]

Its on its way to be nation wide if not already...  http://www.cscope.us

Hmmmm...any info whether Perry was on board with this?  There is another program called "Common Core"  that was implemented last year in half the states.  Perry didn't like CC.  It was a brain child of liberal think tanks origininating in CA and Chicago and being done through Washington DC.

I really wished people with kids would opt out of the Public system.  The brainwashing is starting earlier and it's under the radar, subtle and progressive.  Keep in mind too, that the people who are teaching our kids today were taught with similar tactics. This started back in the 60's.

[17 Oaks]

Hmmmm...any info whether Perry was on board with this?  There is another program called "Common Core"  that was implemented last year in half the states.  Perry didn't like CC.  It was a brain child of liberal think tanks origininating in CA and Chicago and being done through Washington DC.

I really wished people with kids would opt out of the Public system.  The brainwashing is starting earlier and it's under the radar, subtle and progressive.  Keep in mind too, that the people who are teaching our kids today were taught with similar tactics. This started back in the 60's.

CSCOPE is common core and its sweeping the nation, is in 70% of Texas schools now.


CSCOPE’s Communist Indoctrination

In Texas CSCOPE High Schools Students study about communism and socialism and then create a new flag for a new socialist Nation–
Is  the US to be the new socialist nation? Via Common Core Standards, Obama is teaching our children how wonderful socialism is and that communism is even better.
CSCOPE is the prelude to having the Obama Common Core Standards in our schools. Via our Texas School Superintendents, who are studying how to implement Common Core, our state Education services centers are setting in place the perfect technology framework called CSCOPE.
Following are the instruction from the CSCOPE activity directing students to design a socialist/communist flag...

http://www.txcscopereview.com/2013/cscope-communist-indoctrinate/

[vesta111]

NO!!!!!  I also resent that, if it was made up I would say so or write it in a satirical manner...

She is a nut job I ought to know I am trying to buy her place and have been for over a year.  At first I made here an offer on her land and she said no, it was land and house or no go.  Then she said What I really want is to live here the rest of my life, but I want the money from the property.  I told her I would see what I could do.  I got with some folks who are friends and we came up with a good plan, but they advised against it because it was not that good of a deal for me:  I offered her 20% down, payout in 10 years and she could live there the rest of her life paying only for utilities...This was a sweet deal for her and I saw it as not wanting the house to begin with no big deal if I did not generate an income from rental.  Well looking back on I was lucky, she turned me down...showing how stupid she really is...the reason why was she found out here property was considered 'commercial property due to a small slice of frontage on the I 10 frontage road.  While I agreed with her I said neither she nor I or our kids and at best maybe grandkids will see the city out this far.  At this time it has zero commercial value.  To make it worse the piece of property sets in a wet weather creek near the base of a large hill.  I ponited out the changes of building there are slim and none, expecially due to the massive concrete drainage that goes along side the small piece of property...you would have to build a bridge over it and I suspect get the structure at least 6 feet above the ground level.

She voted for Obama TWICE!!!!!!

Seems to me your problem with the teacher is her refusal to sell to you her home and land.  Commercial property in the future --priceless.

I believe you are just pissed at the landowner for not excepting your offer.    She sounds smart and savvy to those that make offers on her land, is not someone to be taken easily.

No reason to defame anyone that refuses to sell their land or home to them, darn you make realistate agents look like crooks.

Why would you and others have spent a year trying to get your hands on this property, has as you say no commercial value or rental property, why the push to get your hands on it ?

Why is she a Nut case for weighing all offers and being cautious and suspicious of all ??

HMMMMMMM suspicious Yankee wants to know, seen this before and will see again.

[Dori]

uh oh   

[Eupher]

Seems to me your problem with the teacher is her refusal to sell to you her home and land.  Commercial property in the future --priceless.

I believe you are just pissed at the landowner for not excepting your offer.    She sounds smart and savvy to those that make offers on her land, is not someone to be taken easily.

No reason to defame anyone that refuses to sell their land or home to them, darn you make realistate agents look like crooks.

Why would you and others have spent a year trying to get your hands on this property, has as you say no commercial value or rental property, why the push to get your hands on it ?

Why is she a Nut case for weighing all offers and being cautious and suspicious of all ??

HMMMMMMM suspicious Yankee wants to know, seen this before and will see again.

vesta strikes again. 

Okay, Crazy Lady, is it even remotely possible that the woman in 17 Oaks' story is a Nutcase because SHE VOTED FOR OBAMA TWICE?[/glow]

[17 Oaks]

vesta strikes again. 

Okay, Crazy Lady, is it even remotely possible that the woman in 17 Oaks' story is a Nutcase because SHE VOTED FOR OBAMA TWICE?[/glow]

Well sounds like you are shooting blanks...again.  Fact is I offered her MORE than it was worth, but its clear real estate is not your strong suit...LIFETIME right of tenancy, paying nothing but utilities, give me a break, you got no idea what you are talking about.  Commercial land, yea, takes more than being on the side of the road, its swamp, base of the hill and fills with water.  My land offer was nearly double the value of the land itself.  I offered top dollar, her deed does not even show a home on the land, just listed as land and structures.  She tried to convince me here house was over 3000 sq ft because that was what was on the tax rolls...but I measured it at 1610, then she had it measured and its 1556 sq feet.  The house does not even have a water well and when sold the new owner will need to put in a well at a cost of $23,000 based upon the estimate she got.

Finally it was a part of this ranch to begin with and she wants to move, she has the house on the market and its been on the market 3 times, going on 2 years this time and has never sold...WONDER WHY...commercial value that does not exist (8 miles outside the nearest town of 10,000, there is no view, the house sits in a hole and this is Texas Hill Country, houses at the base of hills are a hard sell here, no view, no water well, no AC or heat, house is 2 WWII barracks that were brought up here and joined together.

I am trying to restore the ranch and get some of the property that was sold off years ago.

Now what ZACTLY was your point?

[Eupher]

Well sounds like you are shooting blanks...again.  Fact is I offered her MORE than it was worth, but its clear real estate is not your strong suit...LIFETIME right of tenancy, paying nothing but utilities, give me a break, you got no idea what you are talking about.  Commercial land, yea, takes more than being on the side of the road, its swamp, base of the hill and fills with water.  My land offer was nearly double the value of the land itself.  I offered top dollar, her deed does not even show a home on the land, just listed as land and structures.  She tried to convince me here house was over 3000 sq ft because that was what was on the tax rolls...but I measured it at 1610, then she had it measured and its 1556 sq feet.  The house does not even have a water well and when sold the new owner will need to put in a well at a cost of $23,000 based upon the estimate she got.

Finally it was a part of this ranch to begin with and she wants to move, she has the house on the market and its been on the market 3 times, going on 2 years this time and has never sold...WONDER WHY...commercial value that does not exist (8 miles outside the nearest town of 10,000, there is no view, the house sits in a hole and this is Texas Hill Country, houses at the base of hills are a hard sell here, no view, no water well, no AC or heat, house is 2 WWII barracks that were brought up here and joined together.

I am trying to restore the ranch and get some of the property that was sold off years ago.

Now what ZACTLY was your point?

You do realize, don't you, that my post was directed at vesta and not at you?

Personally, I don't give a rat's ass about your real estate concerns with the woman in question - my post alluded to the PROBABLE determination of the woman as being a nutcase because she voted for Obama.  Not just once, which would've been bad enough, but TWICE.

That's qualification enough for nutdom.

[Dori]

You do realize, don't you, that my post was directed at vesta and not at you?

Personally, I don't give a rat's ass about your real estate concerns with the woman in question - my post alluded to the PROBABLE determination of the woman as being a nutcase because she voted for Obama.  Not just once, which would've been bad enough, but TWICE.

That's qualification enough for nutdom.

I think he was addressing Vesta's post.  But your right about the nutdom.  What's really scary is how many kids has she infected during her career?

[Eupher]

I think he was addressing Vesta's post.  But your right about the nutdom.  What's really scary is how many kids has she infected during her career?

If that's the case, 17 Oaks needs to quote the post he's directing his comment toward, not somebody's else's. 

[17 Oaks]

If that's the case, 17 Oaks needs to quote the post he's directing his comment toward, not somebody's else's. 

Quoted you on purpose, got a kick out of what you said:

"Vesta strikes again", that said it ALL...I was agreeing with you..

[Eupher]

Quoted you on purpose, got a kick out of what you said:

"Vesta strikes again", that said it ALL...I was agreeing with you..

vesta is a legend -- in her own mind. (What's left of it.)

[17 Oaks]

vesta is a legend -- in her own mind. (What's left of it.)

Seems that way, I have been around that long to know, but following your lead on it for sure...

[vesta111]

Seems that way, I have been around that long to know, but following your lead on it for sure...

 

Just wondering why anyone would get so steamed up about buying a worthless piece of property.

These plans of home inhibition for life can be gotten around.   Seen this done in some of our "Better" family's up here.  Kids get together and buy out a elderly relatives home and land.   The relative just pays utilities but has the money in the bank from the sale.   After 12-18 months the family gets together to get a judge to declare the family member incompetent, a bit of a bribe works here, and member is removed from the home and placed into a nursing home of some kind.  Family gets court orders to also control there finances.     

Now family gets the home and land and the money they paid for it back from members bank account.  Result is the relative is now pennyless, angry as a hornet and they have lost all controll of their lives.

One thing about a nursing home is the family not you has the right to give orders on your care.  I saw this when a woman from a VERY wealthy family had her declared incompetent and ordered their relative to stay in her private room 24/7 with no guests.   No way she could fight back, no phone or money to hire a Lawyer, no way to convince visitors that they had been scammed by loved ones they trusted.  Heart breaking.

Have to be carefull if one has only distant relatives or even  sons and daughters and grandchildren.   If one can stomach  the education on humane nature get a job in a nursing home or volunteer at one and watch how the family's interact with their family, if they even care to visit once every 3 years.   

It's all about the MONEY, and if no family there is allways someone willing to pull the gold out of a elderly persons teeth.

Much money for worthless land is a big flag to me, so many scams by lawyers and doctors to get their hands on a mention in a will.   Realestate Agents with a heads up of some project coming in 5 years or so to buy our home owners for cheap that stand in the way of a project in the future.   

New London Conn. where the town and State forced 300 people to give up their homes by public domain in order to build a hotel.   People were dragged out of their homes at gun point when they refused the offer of a sale price of half the value of their homes.  I will not forget that one.  I had friends that got caught up in what they called a Police State.    A Private business came in and somehow forced these people off their land using town and state police.    This action was not for public improvement but for some company to benefit it.

Google it, a horror story that can happen anywhere.

Suspicious Yes, when it comes to land and money you bet I am,  So what benefit to you and your friends would this worthless piece pf property be to you if you have to pay taxes on it for 20 years ??????

[17 Oaks]

Just wondering why anyone would get so steamed up about buying a worthless piece of property.

These plans of home inhibition for life can be gotten around.   Seen this done in some of our "Better" family's up here.  Kids get together and buy out a elderly relatives home and land.   The relative just pays utilities but has the money in the bank from the sale.   After 12-18 months the family gets together to get a judge to declare the family member incompetent, a bit of a bribe works here, and member is removed from the home and placed into a nursing home of some kind.  Family gets court orders to also control there finances.     

Now family gets the home and land and the money they paid for it back from members bank account.  Result is the relative is now pennyless, angry as a hornet and they have lost all controll of their lives.

One thing about a nursing home is the family not you has the right to give orders on your care.  I saw this when a woman from a VERY wealthy family had her declared incompetent and ordered their relative to stay in her private room 24/7 with no guests.   No way she could fight back, no phone or money to hire a Lawyer, no way to convince visitors that they had been scammed by loved ones they trusted.  Heart breaking.

Have to be carefull if one has only distant relatives or even  sons and daughters and grandchildren.   If one can stomach  the education on humane nature get a job in a nursing home or volunteer at one and watch how the family's interact with their family, if they even care to visit once every 3 years.   

It's all about the MONEY, and if no family there is allways someone willing to pull the gold out of a elderly persons teeth.

Much money for worthless land is a big flag to me, so many scams by lawyers and doctors to get their hands on a mention in a will.   Realestate Agents with a heads up of some project coming in 5 years or so to buy our home owners for cheap that stand in the way of a project in the future.   

New London Conn. where the town and State forced 300 people to give up their homes by public domain in order to build a hotel.   People were dragged out of their homes at gun point when they refused the offer of a sale price of half the value of their homes.  I will not forget that one.  I had friends that got caught up in what they called a Police State.    A Private business came in and somehow forced these people off their land using town and state police.    This action was not for public improvement but for some company to benefit it.

Google it, a horror story that can happen anywhere.

Suspicious Yes, when it comes to land and money you bet I am,  So what benefit to you and your friends would this worthless piece pf property be to you if you have to pay taxes on it for 20 years ??????

1) Now I am beginning to understand what Eupher meant

2)  I tried to read thru your convoluted story twice, not really sure where that rambling diatribe was headed but I didn't board the train

3)  Open windows to allow fresh air to circulate, do not inhale as deeply

4)  My friends are not buying this piece of property, I am, they have nothing to do with it and are not especially supportive, thinking I have offered too much.  I have been dealing with her AND her family, in fact I insisted they be present and review all documents pertaining to the offer.  Her land borders my land on 3 different fence lines, it was originally part of my property.  As for taxes, my tax is quite low as I have an Ag exemption on my property and adding that back into will also capture that exemption.  Taxes are not an issue...