Are Sarah Palin's Presidential Hopes Over?

[theconservative]

Barack Hussein Obama and his rhetoric have made him the most divisive political figure since Abraham Lincoln. He won the democratic nomination and the presidency.

Do we want to counter an inexperienced gaffe-machine with the same thing just on the republican ticket? No. We need to find leaders who, as n the words of Sen. Marco Rubion will "oppose Barack Obama and offer a clear alternative." We have folks like Pawlenty, Daniels, Romney, Bachmann, Thune, Huckabee, Gingrich etc. Why her? She has the least experience and the least intelligence of anyone on that list.

[CactusCarlos]

Why her? She has the least experience and the least intelligence of anyone on that list.

Seems to me you have the least intelligence of anyone on this board.  You keep shoveling the same crap as if the people who believe in Palin are going to magically value what you say and change their minds.  Here's a clue noob, you're doing nothing but pissing us off with each post.  But maybe that was your intent in the first place, to disrupt.   

[Lacarnut]

I have no reason for dealing with idiots. Therefore Lacarnut, since you make assumptions and are ignorant to reality, you now are on my ignore list. You can say all you want about me, but I have no use for you or your dumb comments.

The truth must hurt cause when I was your age politics was way down on the list of things I was interested in on a Friday or Saturday night. Dating, dancing and a few brews was number one on my lists. You are a weirdo and I feel sorry for those young uns that have to be connected to the Internet, cell phones and Ipods everywhere they go. You are going to grow up to be a tech zombie. On the other hand, you may never grow up. You certainly do not know squat about politics.

[Attero Dominatus]

Do we want to counter an inexperienced gaffe-machine with the same thing just on the republican ticket? No. We need to find leaders who, as n the words of Sen. Marco Rubion will "oppose Barack Obama and offer a clear alternative." We have folks like Pawlenty, Daniels, Romney, Bachmann, Thune, Huckabee, Gingrich etc. Why her? She has the least experience and the least intelligence of anyone on that list.

Sarah Palin has been governor and when she was governor, she took on the establishment, and promoted new oil and gas drilling. Obama's only experience was being a two bit senator.

Why Romney? He is a statist, not with not only the progenitor to Obamacare to his name, but is also anti-gun (http://www.nationalgunrights.org/POTUS/Romney.shtml)

[Lacarnut]

Sarah Palin has been governor and when she was governor, she took on the establishment, and promoted new oil and gas drilling. Obama's only experience was being a two bit senator.

Why Romney? He is a statist, not with not only the progenitor to Obamacare to his name, but is also anti-gun (http://www.nationalgunrights.org/POTUS/Romney.shtml)

The more we find out about Romney, the more there is to not like. Health care costs have sky rocketed since Mass care well above the national average. Romney increased the budget by 3 billion dollars, increased taxes and fees. He did inherit a deficit when he took office and left it with a surplus but he did it on the backs of taxpayers. However, the health care cost were not included and were off budget. Then there is abortion. He was for it but now he is against. He is doing a bunch of flip flops now that he is running for Prez cause those liberal policies of his will not fly with conservatives and independents.   

[CactusCarlos]

Why Romney? He is a statist, not with not only the progenitor to Obamacare to his name, but is also anti-gun (http://www.nationalgunrights.org/POTUS/Romney.shtml)

He's also anti-dog: Romney's Cruel Canine Vacation

[Attero Dominatus]

The more we find out about Romney, the more there is to not like. Health care costs have sky rocketed since Mass care well above the national average. Romney increased the budget by 3 billion dollars, increased taxes and fees. He did inherit a deficit when he took office and left it with a surplus but he did it on the backs of taxpayers. However, the health care cost were not included and were off budget. Then there is abortion. He was for it but now he is against. He is doing a bunch of flip flops now that he is running for Prez cause those liberal policies of his will not fly with conservatives and independents.   

Yes, abortion too. He is a big flip flopper on that. In fact, he is the Republican John Kerry.

[GOP Congress]

I hope we will be at a point 12 months from now where the primary candidate for the Republican nominee will be a conservative/libertarian (constitutionalist) type. Obviously, the most representative of that type of candidate will present himself with the biggest crosshairs in the rifle scope to the media (analogy absolutely intended). The reason? Because the left is SCARED of conservatives. Conversely, we hope the left puts out the most EXTREME candidate, preferably an incumbent who doesn't triangulate. But the bottom line: WE must decide the candidate this time around, NOT the mainstream media, a fully-owned subsidiary of the socialist wing of the democrat party.

Unfortunately, at this time, the ONLY person we have on the horizon with executive experience is Sarah Palin. I would be tickled pink to have her president, to be honest, but to be quite frank, I hope we have a whole SLEW of candidates with Palin's validated conservative credentials. At that point, Palin may or may not be my favorite pick.

But we have strayed from the point of the thread: Has the shooting invalidated Palin's chances for president? I unfortunately concur that it has, at least for now, but how conservatives and libertarians respond, and more importantly, how the constituents of our existing GOP congressional members, or how opponents of incumbent RINO or leftist congressional members are able to discern through this vitriolic behavior of the left.

[Lacarnut]

I hope we will be at a point 12 months from now where the primary candidate for the Republican nominee will be a conservative/libertarian (constitutionalist) type. Obviously, the most representative of that type of candidate will present himself with the biggest crosshairs in the rifle scope to the media (analogy absolutely intended). The reason? Because the left is SCARED of conservatives. Conversely, we hope the left puts out the most EXTREME candidate, preferably an incumbent who doesn't triangulate. But the bottom line: WE must decide the candidate this time around, NOT the mainstream media, a fully-owned subsidiary of the socialist wing of the democrat party.

Unfortunately, at this time, the ONLY person we have on the horizon with executive experience is Sarah Palin. I would be tickled pink to have her president, to be honest, but to be quite frank, I hope we have a whole SLEW of candidates with Palin's validated conservative credentials. At that point, Palin may or may not be my favorite pick.

But we have strayed from the point of the thread: Has the shooting invalidated Palin's chances for president? I unfortunately concur that it has, at least for now, but how conservatives and libertarians respond, and more importantly, how the constituents of our existing GOP congressional members, or how opponents of incumbent RINO or leftist congressional members are able to discern through this vitriolic behavior of the left.

I do not think her chances have been diminished one iota. When Obama says that you do not bring a knife to a gun fight, the chicken shit Repubs members of Congress are silent. If the Repubs allow Obama and the democrats to put them on the defense, they will lose the battle, and it makes no difference who our candidate is. 

The only reason I mentioned Romney is because this dipshit newbie started his bashing of Palin.

[theconservative]

Sarah Palin has been governor and when she was governor, she took on the establishment, and promoted new oil and gas drilling. Obama's only experience was being a two bit senator.

Why Romney? He is a statist, not with not only the progenitor to Obamacare to his name, but is also anti-gun (http://www.nationalgunrights.org/POTUS/Romney.shtml)

Palin was Governor for not even three years and while she can point to accomplishments such as balancing her state's budget and fighting for energy reform, she also increased taxes on oil profits as part of a contract with taxpayers, and spending levels increased by over 30%. As for Romney, he did change positions on gun control, abortion, ethanol, and campaign finance. However, Romney is not the only candidate to change a position.

[theconservative]

Seems to me you have the least intelligence of anyone on this board.  You keep shoveling the same crap as if the people who believe in Palin are going to magically value what you say and change their minds.  Here's a clue noob, you're doing nothing but pissing us off with each post.  But maybe that was your intent in the first place, to disrupt.   

No, that is not my intent. My intent is to discuss issues that affect this country and conservatism. This is not about Palin, not about you, not about me; its about this country.

[Lacarnut]

On Fox, a poll stating that Palin did not have anything to do with the shooting, 96% said it way a buy. So, those thinking it will have any effect on her decision to run or not run, quit drinking the koolaid. Americans have short memories; in a couple of months, this will be a non issue.  

[Red October]

The train of though that says Palin is somehow damaged goods because of all the attention she's gotten seems weak to me.  Anyone who runs becomes an instant lightening rod.  The left wing press would take hatchets to Mother Theresa if she ran against the current Demogouge in Chief.  It's not like anyone else would be treated any better or portrayed fairly to any degree. 

[olde north church]

No.

[Wineslob]

I hope she runs. I believe she hasn't had the "change of life" yet so when that time of the month arrives, she'll gut and skin the DUmbocraps.     





 

[Varokhâr]

They're not over, not because of the AZ shootings. To suggest so is just plain silly.

They're only over if Sarah doesn't want to run.

[Duke Nukum]

It has been a while since I read her first book but from that I got the impression she had no intention of running.

[Lacarnut]

It has been a while since I read her first book but from that I got the impression she had no intention of running.

I get the impression that she will run from the interviews she has done lately. I sure hope so. None of the top 5 candidates thrill me with the exception of her.

[txradioguy]

The train of though that says Palin is somehow damaged goods because of all the attention she's gotten seems weak to me.  Anyone who runs becomes an instant lightening rod.  The left wing press would take hatchets to Mother Theresa if she ran against the current Demogouge in Chief.  It's not like anyone else would be treated any better or portrayed fairly to any degree. 

BINGO.  Well said.

[delilahmused]

She has brilliant political instincts and every time she's counted out she defies elites and critics. At this point no one knows whether she'll run (she may not even know yet) but damn she's tough. I've never seen so much thrown at one person in my life, much of it from her "own" side. And still she holds her head up and speaks her mind.

The one thing that truly pisses me off is how people decide the behavior of her ADULT children affects her chances. Sorry but that simply wouldn't be held against a man. Her daughter got pregnant and the guy she was with turned out to be a jerk and a loser. I dated jerks in high school, too. Nor is she the first girl from a good Christian family who got pregnant. And her family did exactly what I would do...support my daughter and love her (and be disappointed) and thank the Lord that she has the profound respect for life that I tried to instill in her.

Then, after all the poo flung at her, Bristol, like her brave mother doesn't hide in a corner, but puts herself out there and does Dancing with the Stars. Her decision, not Sara's. As an adult, she gets to decide what she wants to do. But, still that reflects negatively on Sara Palin. Yet, she also has a son who served honorably in the Army. But that doesn't matter because she has a daughter who is a single mother and went on a dance show and that trumps everything else. Including the fact that she obviously passed on the values of patriotism, love of country, service, reverence for life, and courage to her children.

Cindie

[Attero Dominatus]

The one thing that truly pisses me off is how people decide the behavior of her ADULT children affects her chances. Sorry but that simply wouldn't be held against a man. Her daughter got pregnant and the guy she was with turned out to be a jerk and a loser. I dated jerks in high school, too. Nor is she the first girl from a good Christian family who got pregnant. And her family did exactly what I would do...support my daughter and love her (and be disappointed) and thank the Lord that she has the profound respect for life that I tried to instill in her.

That's the one thing I hate too. Her family's lives should be no one else's business anyway.

[GOP Congress]

I have waited almost two months before replying to the original purpose of the thread: assessing Sarah Palin's potential to run for president. I have come to the conclusion that I was premature, and wrong. The most significant factor is the emergence of the strongly united and unflinching Tea Party movement, both federally and in many states, that have beaten back the normal popular position of the mainstream media running things. To that end, Palin has not undergone any more scrutiny that would negate her ability to run.

The bottom line: the 2012 candidate can not worry about pragmatically insignificant, but historically damaging, charges by the media about certain actions. Indeed, in retrospect, I wish that every republican would have INCREASED the usage of military terminology in their campaigns, especially in light of the Wisconsin debacle. I still am peeved at the decision to mingle at the SOTU, but the overall fallout was pleasantly nullified by the substantive, unflinching actions of the Tea party movement candidates as a whole.

Whether Palin will survive a hopefully increasing pool of conservative, constitutional candites for the Republican primary is yet to be seen. But the media's attack on her last January has not only fizzled, it dissipated just like the fart of a Wisconsin protester.