He did not win because of Fox viewers

[DUmpDiver]

edhopper (34,846 posts)
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 11:39 AM
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He did not win because of Fox viewers
Yes, Fox poisons the dialog and is a force for evil. But the people who watch Fox were always going to vote for Trump.
Fox viewership is around 2-3 million, a tiny percent of the 76 million votes he got.
Make no mistake, Fox has been a terrible influence on our nation. But the voters who put him over are the ones who don't watch Fox or any News. Who vote on vague, not thoughtful impressions of the candidates. "He's a billionaire who was on TV" is not a valid reason to make someone the President, neither is come gut feeling. Or thinking you don't like how things are, so just change it up, without a scintilla of understanding what the agenda will be.
These are the folks that gave him the win.
Fox is a problem, but not why we lost.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219758321

I'll give this DUmmie credit on the first point: 3 million viewers don't cast 76 million votes. The left's Fox obsession in unwarranted. Similarly, CNN has even less viewers so there's no need for the right to obsess over CNN.

On the second point: Voters don't know who Trump really is and just vote on some vague impression? The DUmmie totally ignores that Trump already served one term so voters do know who Trump is and that the country ran well when he was POTUS 45.

[Old n Grumpy]

He did not win because of Fox viewers

He won because your parties policies suck, the American people aren’t zbuying what you’re selling DEI transgender bs. Your open border policies and ruin of the economy had a lot to do with it.
And as long as you’re too stupid to listen, we’ll keep on winning.

[SVPete]

1. ~73 million American voters saw 4 years of Trump and 4 years that Kammie said she would not have done differently, and rejected Kammie.

2. What POs Progs about Fox and ConservaTalk is that they broke Libs’ and Progs’ info-monopoly.

[Ralph Wiggum]

He won because your parties policies suck, the American people aren’t zbuying what you’re selling DEI transgender bs. Your open border policies and ruin of the economy had a lot to do with it.
And as long as you’re too stupid to listen, we’ll keep on winning.

Bingo, their policies are horrid.

I'm old enough to recall when Billy Jeff Clinton was lamenting about the influence of the late great Rush Limbaugh in the 90's and claimed that there was no "truth detector" after his 3-hour per day show. Soon after Rush started calling himself "America's Truth Detector".

Face it: Conservatives are far smarter than than you give us credit for. It doesn't matter one's education level, we all just know far more common sense than you over-educated clowns.

[Old n Grumpy]

And even for us conservatives that aren’t that smart we resent being called garbage, deplorables, nazis, racist people.

[Carl]

"He's a billionaire who was on TV" is not a valid reason to make someone the President,

Yet just being a woman or minority is in your ****ed up world.

[SVPete]

"He's a billionaire who was on TV" is not a valid reason to make someone the President, ...

1. I've never heard a Trump voter say anything remotely like what edhopper attributes to us. That is just bog-standard DU-Dishonesty, though.

2. Whatever DU-Denizens imagine they voted for, they voted for a mediocre assistant DA who got legs-up into SF and state politics by being the mistress of a powerful Dem politician, parlayed her sex-, Indian-, and black-identities into state-level office, and was rewarded for her sex-and ethnic-identities by being given the opportunity to ride a semi-senile almost-life-long-DC-denizen's coat tails into a do-nothing Vice Presidency.

[Airwolf]

Maybe if your side had told the country what you had planned for the next four years there wouldn't have been such a huge win for Trump. Add that to the failures of Biden to secure our country from an invasion of illegals and the piss poor way he ran the economy then don't act so surprised when you lose.

[SVPete]

The problem with assessing the reason for Kammie's loss is the many reasons and Prog-Dems' unwillingness to see, acknowledge, and change.

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

""He's a billionaire who was on TV" is not a valid reason to make someone the President, neither is come gut feeling."
Neither are any of the following, all of which leftists have held up as valid reasons to vote Democrat in this election:
1. "Kamala is a woman, and it's time we had a woman president."
2. "She's gonna stick it to those rich people."
3. "She's gonna punish white people."
4. "She's black, and it's time we had another black president."

[FlippyDoo]

""He's a billionaire who was on TV" is not a valid reason to make someone the President, neither is come gut feeling."
Neither are any of the following, all of which leftists have held up as valid reasons to vote Democrat in this election:
1. "Kamala is a woman, and it's time we had a woman president."
2. "She's gonna stick it to those rich people."
3. "She's gonna punish white people."
4. "She's black, and it's time we had another black president."

You beat me to it. The DUmp declaring what is or is not a valid reason to vote for someone is hilarious considering that they considered the fact that Kammie is partially black and doesn't have a tallywacker to be a valid reason to vote for her.

[Rebel]

I turned off Fox in November 2020, so.......

I will flip over for Gutfield because I don't like Chris Plante's format, though I do like Chris. I get most of my news on X. It's ALL news and I can filter through the bullshit. I also watch a lot of podcasts like Tim Pool, Styx, Jimmy Dore (Yes, DUmbasses, a leftist), etc. I don't agree with Jimmy on everything, especially his stance on Israel or that medicare for all bullshit, but he nails it on many other stances.

You idiot DUmbasses have lost the plot. We're not the same. We gather information from many sources. We don't sit in front of the fkn TV to be told what to think.

[Ptarmigan]

Demographic Breakdown Of Trump’s Gain Shows Scale Of Shift Away From The Democrats
https://wokespy.com/demographic-breakdown-of-trumps-gain-shows-scale-of-shift-away-from-the-democrats/

A breakdown of the different demographics which shifted towards reveals the sheer scale of discontent towards the Democratic Party.

Not only was the election a blowout – it was a blowout in every demographic relative to 2020.

Traditionally Democrat voters and independent switched towards the GOP, often in 20+ point shifts in some cases when compared with 2012, when the neocon wing of the Republican Party was running the show.


Beginning with race, Black voters were still largely in favor of Kamala Harris with the Democrat enjoying a 72-point advantage over her Republican rival. However, that marked a historic 19-point drop in support compared to 2012. Donald Trump’s largest gain came among Hispanic voters with a 29-point increase, while he gained 17 points among Asian voters and those whose race was not categorized.

Trump increased the GOP’s standing with White voters without a degree by 13 points. Nevertheless, his gains among ethnic minorities was replicated when nonwhite college-educated voters were factored in, with a gain of 21 points. The biggest net shift in his favor came among nonwhite voters without a degree, 35% of whom voted Republican in 2024 compared to just 17% 12 years prior.

Trends are not kind to the DNC.

[DefiantSix]

...Trends are not kind to the DNC.

The hand of Karma seldom is.