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2012: Top DUmmie #08 (Systematic Chaos)
« on: December 22, 2012, 12:59:27 PM »
Congratulations to Systematic Chaos, the #08 Top DUmmie of 2012, and so well-deserved!

This year’s award matches the Las Vegas Leviathan’s performance in 2009, in which he was also #08 Top DUmmie of that year.

The Las Vegas Leviathan is circa 44 years old, and lives in Las Vegas, where he once worked as a card-dealer in a casino.  Unfortunately, one of the fringe benefits of working there was that one could get all one wished to eat from the casino kitchen, and the Las Vegas Leviathan grew rather enormous, until he couldn’t work any more, as the casino ran out of space in the basement to set up 4x4 posts to support the floor underneath him.

The Las Vegas Leviathan has lost weight since, and can be viewed on various youtubes here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/PlantBasedWeightLoss/videos

The Las Vegas Leviathan is married to Jeanette, who supports him, along with the rest of we taxpayers, because he adamantly refuses to go back to working for a living, despite all the encouragement, helpful hints, and job-leads that have been posted for him here in the DUmpster.

He and Jeanette have a roommate, “Joe,” who ostensibly is behemothic in girth too.  Joe’s relationship to the pair remains a mystery; perhaps the Las Vegas Leviathan owes him something, I dunno.

There’s good reason to suspect that during the height of his tonnage, the Las Vegas Leviathan developed agoraphobia, the morbid fear of going out into the world, as he does seem to spend all his days and nights sequestered in that dark, cramped, windowless apartment, playing computer games.

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The Las Vegas Leviathan is one of the very few primitives who actually came here to conservativecave and registered and posted.  It’s nothing for decent and civilized people to go and hang around primitive message-boards, but for a primitive to come to a message-board habituated by decent and civilized people, well, that takes a great deal of courage on the part of the primitive, given that the primitives tend to turn hostile towards other primitives who’ve made contact with “the other side.”

His social intercourse with us can be found here:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,81605.0.html

It’s long, but it’s well worth reading.

However, the Las Vegas Leviathan stopped commenting after the thread was moved from the DUmpster to the Mind-Numbing Stupidity forum; perhaps he thought he was being insulted with that move, but there was another reason for it; to make lurking primitives aware that there’s s-o-o-o-o-o much more to conservativecave than just the Dumpster; there’s, like, about 60 other forums here.

Primitives, when coming over here, dash immediately to the DUmpster, paying no attention at all to all the good material, the wealth of information, that’s to be found in other forums on this site.

The primitives really need to acquire a broader world-view, to explore new things and new ideas.

One supposes one could point out that the primitives are narcissists, small-minded people interested only in reading about their own selves, and so the rest of conservativecave couldn’t possibly interest them.

True, the primitives are narcissists, interested only in their own selves, but it needs pointed out that the primitives from Skins’s island are discussed in forums on conservativecave other than just the DUmpster.  

For example, there’s a thread in another forum here, in which individual primitives are described and discussed; the thread was started just a few days ago, and last I checked, it had 4,009 views and 1,314 comments.  It’s full of all sorts of spicy, juicy, crunchy details.

The primitives have no idea how much they’re missing out on, but that’s what happens when one goes around life voluntarily wearing blinders on the sides of both eyes, going to only one forum here.

Too bad for the primitives.

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One of the Las Vegas Leviathan’s pet causes on Skins’s island is the environment; he’s all for the environment and against anything that harms it.

And here one must embark upon description of a rather, uh, delicate subject.

The subject might be offensive to some--if not many--and so if one’s the sensitive sort, franksolich suggests one quit reading now, and go on to reading something else.

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When franksolich was in college, there was a free “underground” Marxist-Leninist-Trotskyite newspaper in Lincoln, Nebraska, the now-defunct Lincoln Gazette.  It was passed out by a bunch of ageing hippies, and decent and civilized people ate it up…..for amusement and entertainment.

One time there was a cartoon in this newspaper, a picture of a man standing by a mountain of…..something.

The text to the cartoon mentioned that the average human being disgorges 11,000 pounds of solid wastes in his life-time.

That’s a lot of shit.

The newspaper gave no source for that assertion, but I filed it away in the memory in case it might be useful some day.  And so now it has, thirty years later, after I began wondering a few years ago how much chow the Las Vegas Leviathan was porking down.  What goes in must come out, after all.

And the Las Vegas Leviathan has wolfed down a lot, in his life.

I was however bothered that there had been no source for that long-ago Marxist-Leninist-Trotskyite allegation, and so had to nadin the matter.  Gingerly and with much paranoia, lest Google think franksolich has a “thing” about the stuff, and Barack Milhous’s internet police categorize franksolich as an, uh, individual with peculiar tastes.

Well, I can report that the long-ago assertion is probably true, given that such nadined sources quote anywhere between 9,000 and 13,000 pounds as the “average” of excreted human solid-wastes.

Okay, that’s the “average” person; but what of an individual who’s eaten considerably more than the “average” person?  Surely the Las Vegas Leviathan’s put down enough to feed an army.

My God, he’s probably pumped out a whole Mount Everest of it.

And so one’s aghastly compelled to ask, how’s that being good to the environment?

Alas, poor overburdened Mother Gaia!
« Last Edit: December 23, 2012, 06:38:40 PM by franksolich »
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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2012, 01:13:37 PM »
Congratulations Kirk!  :cheersmate:

Will you be over to accept in person? One hopes so.

One point, Franksolich says:

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Unfortunately, one of the fringe benefits of working there was that one could get all one wished to eat from the casino kitchen, and the Las Vegas Leviathan grew rather enormous, until he couldn’t work any more, as the casino ran out of space in the basement to set up 4x4 posts to support the floor underneath him.

I'm sure under the Americans with Self-Inflicted Disabilities Act you could have forced the casino to use titanium springs to prop up the floor under your feet. Or maybe even massive airflow turbines inserted in your path  that would have allowed you float above the floor and dealer table. Oy vey! the missed opportunities. We all have them.
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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2012, 07:11:46 PM »
Shorten your damn videos, lard ass. Oh, and your life is what you make of it. I hope Jeanette leaves your sorry ass, and FORCES you to fend for yourself.

Oh, and Congratulations.

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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2012, 09:59:58 PM »
Way to go Kirk. You got your name in lights, albeit, itty bitty ones.
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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2012, 03:06:36 AM »
Congratulations to Systematic Chaos, the #08 Top DUmmie of 2012, and so well-deserved!

SWEET! (I guess?)  :naughty:

This year’s award matches the Las Vegas Leviathan’s performance in 2009, in which he was also #08 Top DUmmie of that year.

Bout damn time.

The Las Vegas Leviathan is circa 44 years old, and lives in Las Vegas, where he once worked as a card-dealer in a casino.  Unfortunately, one of the fringe benefits of working there was that one could get all one wished to eat from the casino kitchen, and the Las Vegas Leviathan grew rather enormous, until he couldn’t work any more, as the casino ran out of space in the basement to set up 4x4 posts to support the floor underneath him.

The free employee dining halls were pretty much a given in the days of "Mob Vegas", but in my time in the gaming industry that was mostly not the case.

My first blackjack dealing job was during 1991-92 at an Indian gaming casino near Minneapolis, MN.  I don't believe we even got an employee discount on the food there, so what me and many of my friends would do was hit a drive-thru on the way to work and nosh in the car during the 20 mile drive.  When I started doing the casino thing again, it was 1997-99 in a town about 60 miles west of Vegas, called Pahrump.  That's where some of the famous prostitution houses in Nevada are, though there are others.  Anyway, at one casino we got no food benefit whatsoever, and at the other one we got a $4 credit towards the purchase of food in the food court or what back then was a Kenny Rogers' Roasters.  As I was trying to be weight conscious during this time, my $4 was always spent on either a veggie sub from Blimpies, or once a week I would treat myself to some very high-fat but delicious corn muffins from Kenny Rogers.  I still had to front about $1.50 for my sandwich, but the $4 covered the muffins okay. 

At my final job, at what is now the site of the City Center and Aria resort, for the first couple of years there was a -- rather nasty -- open employee buffet table.  Some things from there were okay to eat, but with others you just wanted to strangle the kitchen staff for not getting rid of obviously old food, or stuff which was just sub-par to begin with.  Towards the end, that was replaced with these hideous vending machines which a local company stocked with various items from sandwiches to cups of ramen to various other cheap crap.  We were all given a plastic card which we could load with a paltry $2.50 credit per day.  Anything over that had to come from out of our pockets.  It was hideous and needless to say I usually brought food from home.  The point to all of this is that you may all rest assured that during those times when depression, health issues and the side effects of a cocktail of prescription meds drove me to want to eat myself to death, it was pretty much entirely on my own dime.


The Las Vegas Leviathan has lost weight since, and can be viewed on various youtubes here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/PlantBasedWeightLoss/videos

Hey, Frank and the rest of you who hate my dark glasses:  Jeanette took my normal pair to Wal-Mart and got new nose guards put on my 10-year-old glasses.  Neither of us could get those teeny screws into those teeny holes, so a kind store employee fixed them up.  Entirely inadequate vision correction this late in the game, and sure the frick can't afford new ones (either of us), but this is a start!  So in any new videos you doubtlessly won't watch anyway, at least you'll be able to see my peepers, and I won't look like an evil Socialist spy.  Or something.

The Las Vegas Leviathan is married to Jeanette, who supports him, along with the rest of we taxpayers, because he adamantly refuses to go back to working for a living, despite all the encouragement, helpful hints, and job-leads that have been posted for him here in the DUmpster.

We've gone to great lengths to explain the pain, mobility and circulation issues I have.  They're not a joke.  Neither is not being able to even do things I like to do for fun for more than short periods without being interrupted by pain.  Neither is barely even being able to make it from the bedroom to the bathroom at this point.  The constant fear that I'm going to end up losing at least part of one or both legs eventually, and being unable to get regular medical attention for any of the remaining problems I still have, is terrifying.  And finally, trying to live on less than $1200 a month, plus some SNAP benefits, blows.  I did some scrap paper calculations a while back and figure that each American taxpayer is fronting about six ten-thousandths of a penny per month, or $0.000006 per month to keep me at a level of bare existence.  That's the disability and the food stamps, by the way.  Mea maxima culpa.  Really.

He and Jeanette have a roommate, “Joe,” who ostensibly is behemothic in girth too.  Joe’s relationship to the pair remains a mystery; perhaps the Las Vegas Leviathan owes him something, I dunno.

Long story as short as I can make it:  I've known Joe since I worked at a 7-11 just after my 21st birthday.  We became very good friends, because Joe has a heart of gold and you couldn't ask for a better friend.  He has a lot of positives, but he also has a lot of emotional baggage.  Way more than even I have at this point, because he's resisted (or simply isn't able) trying to work his issues out.  He is a veteran of the Air Force and is now nearly 60 years old.  However, he also suffers from emotional eating/food addiction, and developed congestive heart failure a few years back which left him also unable to work.  We took him in so that he wouldn't die on the streets, because that's exactly what would have happened otherwise.  We helped him apply for disability and got him on the road to help through the VA to get his heart failure under control.  There is a lot to this story, and my fingers are starting to cramp, so I'm not going to get into the whole thing now.  But for now I will say that once Jeanette is over the valley fever infection and can get a job and give up the county medical benefits, we'll be looking into moving out on our own.  Joe would do very well in some 55+ housing, with the help of home health care.  But Jeanette and I want to have our complete privacy back, as well as the ability to make decisions about where to go and where to live without having to worry about the welfare of another person.

There’s good reason to suspect that during the height of his tonnage, the Las Vegas Leviathan developed agoraphobia, the morbid fear of going out into the world, as he does seem to spend all his days and nights sequestered in that dark, cramped, windowless apartment, playing computer games.

Nope, no agoraphobia.  And lots of bright afternoon sun, which is great during the cooler months anyway.

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The Las Vegas Leviathan is one of the very few primitives who actually came here to conservativecave and registered and posted.  It’s nothing for decent and civilized people to go and hang around primitive message-boards, but for a primitive to come to a message-board habituated by decent and civilized people, well, that takes a great deal of courage on the part of the primitive, given that the primitives tend to turn hostile towards other primitives who’ve made contact with “the other side.”

Luckily, there are only about a dozen DU'ers who I have any personal association with, and while I haven't asked them personally, I doubt they would harbor any resentment towards me for the exchanges we are having here.

His social intercourse with us can be found here:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,81605.0.html

It’s long, but it’s well worth reading.

However, the Las Vegas Leviathan stopped commenting after the thread was moved from the DUmpster to the Mind-Numbing Stupidity forum; perhaps he thought he was being insulted with that move, but there was another reason for it; to make lurking primitives aware that there’s s-o-o-o-o-o much more to conservativecave than just the Dumpster; there’s, like, about 60 other forums here.

Primitives, when coming over here, dash immediately to the DUmpster, paying no attention at all to all the good material, the wealth of information, that’s to be found in other forums on this site.

The primitives really need to acquire a broader world-view, to explore new things and new ideas.

One supposes one could point out that the primitives are narcissists, small-minded people interested only in reading about their own selves, and so the rest of conservativecave couldn’t possibly interest them.

True, the primitives are narcissists, interested only in their own selves, but it needs pointed out that the primitives from Skins’s island are discussed in forums on conservativecave other than just the DUmpster.

It's the holidays, and we've been trying to spend a lot of time talking with family and doing things together to have fun and enjoy ourselves.  As for moving the other thread into Mind Numbing Stupidity, that was expected at some point I suppose.  My goal in posting here is to refrain completely from such common labels as "stupid", "ignorant", or what have you.  To me, it just gets old lately, and it's not worth spending so much emotional energy to maintain that degree of negativity.  One thing about my time in the casino business is that any and every aspect of my being was regularly assaulted and insulted by drunk, belligerent patrons.  I've heard it all by now, and then some.  And honestly I just don't care anymore.

For example, there’s a thread in another forum here, in which individual primitives are described and discussed; the thread was started just a few days ago, and last I checked, it had 4,009 views and 1,314 comments.  It’s full of all sorts of spicy, juicy, crunchy details.

The primitives have no idea how much they’re missing out on, but that’s what happens when one goes around life voluntarily wearing blinders on the sides of both eyes, going to only one forum here.

Too bad for the primitives.

There is more on the DU than I can possibly take in at any given time.  Add in YouTube, other forums I'm interested in and now this one, and the saying about there only being so much time in a day definitely comes into play.  But rest assured that I do check out other forums from time to time even if I don't actively contribute.

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One of the Las Vegas Leviathan’s pet causes on Skins’s island is the environment; he’s all for the environment and against anything that harms it.

And here one must embark upon description of a rather, uh, delicate subject.

The subject might be offensive to some--if not many--and so if one’s the sensitive sort, franksolich suggests one quit reading now, and go on to reading something else.

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When franksolich was in college, there was a free “underground” Marxist-Leninist-Trotskyite newspaper in Lincoln, Nebraska, the now-defunct Lincoln Gazette.  It was passed out by a bunch of ageing hippies, and decent and civilized people ate it up…..for amusement and entertainment.

One time there was a cartoon in this newspaper, a picture of a man standing by a mountain of…..something.

The text to the cartoon mentioned that the average human being disgorges 11,000 pounds of solid wastes in his life-time.

That’s a lot of shit.

The newspaper gave no source for that assertion, but I filed it away in the memory in case it might be useful some day.  And so now it has, thirty years later, after I began wondering a few years ago how much chow the Las Vegas Leviathan was porking down.  What goes in must come out, after all.

And the Las Vegas Leviathan has wolfed down a lot, in his life.

I was however bothered that there had been no source for that long-ago Marxist-Leninist-Trotskyite allegation, and so had to nadin the matter.  Gingerly and with much paranoia, lest Google think franksolich has a “thing” about the stuff, and Barack Milhous’s internet police categorize franksolich as an, uh, individual with peculiar tastes.

Well, I can report that the long-ago assertion is probably true, given that such nadined sources quote anywhere between 9,000 and 13,000 pounds as the “average” of excreted human solid-wastes.

Okay, that’s the “average” person; but what of an individual who’s eaten considerably more than the “average” person?  Surely the Las Vegas Leviathan’s put down enough to feed an army.

My God, he’s probably pumped out a whole Mount Everest of it.

And so one’s aghastly compelled to ask, how’s that being good to the environment?

Alas, poor overburdened Mother Gaia!

All I can say in response to all of this is:  Since switching to a plant- and starch-based diet, the great increase in the amount of fiber renders my, uh, movements to be a lot more fluffy and potentially damaging to plumbing than they were even when I ate triple the mass of junk and processed foods every day.  But as Dr. McDougall points out in one of his books, the bigger and easier to pass the bowel movements, the better the overall health of the person.  Besides, I think Mother Earth is far less concerned with my brown rice, oatmeal and potato poops than she is with the incredible waste of water and other resources involved with, say, the raising, butchering and sale of various livestock.

Well, I guess in closing I will say that my "award" was an entertaining read!  I'll be sure to try even harder in 2013 to shoot for the top of the list.   :-)

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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2012, 04:38:24 AM »
"I did some scrap paper calculations a while back and figure that each American taxpayer is fronting about six ten-thousandths of a penny per month, or $0.000006 per month to keep me at a level of bare existence."

Still seems like a terrible waste! You ate yourself into bare existence and because of that we all have to support you for the rest of your unproductive existence? Evidently you can use the keyboard. Get a ****in job!
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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2012, 06:24:35 AM »
Whoa.

Whoa.

Whoa.

Never in the entire history of the Top DUmmies, never among the scores and scores of primitives who've been honored, has a winner arrived in person to pick up his award.

This is a most singular event.

One doesn't know what to think; on one hand, the Las Vegas Leviathan's attitudes and values and politics are both abysmal and abominable, loathesome and despicable, contemptible and detestable.....but then on the other hand, for a primitive, it takes a great deal of courage and fortitude to come here publicly.

And it happened on franksolich's watch.

You know, franksolich, the bete noire of the primitives; franksolich, who's a nice guy, one of the nicest guys one can ever hope to meet, but on whom the primitives have placed a mantle as their Scourge, their Prince of Darkness, their Great Satan.....even though he's only a rather ordinary average sort of person.

I don't know what to think.
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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2012, 06:41:47 AM »
Congrats!


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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2012, 06:51:54 AM »
Gotta admit, Kirk has a sense of humor.  :rotf:
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Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2012, 07:45:54 AM »
Congrats Kirk! and I hope you and Jeannette have a wonderful Christmas.
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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2012, 08:12:06 AM »
Yeah Kirk, but multiply that "pittance" by 100-120 million freeloaders, and those of us who WORK for a living instead of bitching and whining how little we get from "da gub'mint" get a little pissed off.

No, you are NOT entitled to my wages.  Get off your ****ing ass and make your own way, or perish.  Such is the way of the world--or will be when the sugar teat runs out soon enough.
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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2012, 09:42:35 AM »
Bravo, Kirk!

Well played, sir, well played!

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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2012, 09:50:22 AM »
Credit given where credit is due Kirk. :cheersmate:

You are so close to escaping all that enslaves you to the government teat.
Life won`t be easier but much more satisfying if you can make yourself do it.

A genuinely wished Merry Christmas and hope that 2013 is the year you completely take your life back in to your own hands.

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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2012, 11:33:44 AM »
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I get the biggest kick out of this special kind of stupidity.  Are they pumping the water into spaceships and launching it into outer space?   :lmao: 

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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2012, 12:55:30 PM »
Limp wristed endless self reflection with a mouth on excuse making overdrive for how mistaken we are for why to the rest of the world we'd see a pile of dust more useful then a society parasite. How the hell did you come out from working in an air conditioned casino in worse shape then most our returning soldiers. I know somebody real well who's so damn big he's three of me, and on a near daily basis he's crawling under a truck and generally sweating his ass off (and yet surprisingly its still there) for a farm. What makes him so special as to not feel pain in his knees, joints, etc? You look tired to the point of wanting to pass out while doing your webcast. Have a cup of coffee...You seem like an intelligent person who's talked himself out of everything. Gave up on life. You talk about the dangers of someone enabling you to be fat, how about being a cop out and loser. Is this how you want to remember yourself? Knee braces...From a religious perspective I'd say you have allowed demons to suppress the crap out of you and I'd start praying immediately to alleviate whatever pain you have.

In case you're not religious at least change your diet. A diet is not supposed to kill you or make you so tired you wish you were dead. Fat and protein are your friends, gluten and carbs in general (except vegetables) are your enemy. 45 minutes of light cardio in the morning before you consume a calorie. Drink water. An additional 15 minutes of light cardio at night. Eat sensibly and not 2 hours before bed. You'll lose all the weight you can stand. Anyway, you're not interested in any of what I just wrote because you're going to go through life continuing to avoid solutions to the comfort of your problems................................................. :banghead:

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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2012, 02:54:33 PM »
Congrats Kirk!!!

A well deserved HI5 for coming here and accepting. I truly do wish you well on losing weight and getting your life on track. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2012, 05:16:40 PM »
Congrats Kirk!!!

A well deserved HI5 for coming here and accepting. I truly do wish you well on losing weight and getting your life on track. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2012, 07:05:15 PM »
Congrats Kirk!!!

A well deserved HI5 for coming here and accepting. I truly do wish you well on losing weight and getting your life on track. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Ditto. Merry Christmas and good luck on your continuing weight loss.
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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2012, 09:55:44 PM »
Congrats Kirk!!!   :cheersmate: :cheersmate:

Merry Christmas sir. I hope the new year turns out well for you and yours.
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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08 (Systematic Chaos)
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2012, 01:30:47 AM »
Merry Christmas Kirk.

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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08 (Systematic Chaos)
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2012, 06:47:28 AM »
Merry Christmas to you and your family.

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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08 (Systematic Chaos)
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2012, 10:08:53 AM »
The LVL is a self-confirmed parasite, determined to remain a parasite, much like a flea on a flea-infested dog.

His only redeeming feature is that his enormous mass of taxpayer-financed blubber has put an intolerable burden on his cardiovascular system, so it's highly likely that he'll expire very, very soon.

Like killing a single flea on a dog, the passing of a single parasite like the Lardass will yield a benefit to society perhaps too small to notice.

But just like ridding a dog of that single flea, there will be a measure of satisfaction.




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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08 (Systematic Chaos)
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2012, 10:36:43 AM »
The LVL is a self-confirmed parasite, determined to remain a parasite, much like a flea on a flea-infested dog.

His only redeeming feature
is that his enormous mass of taxpayer-financed blubber has put an intolerable burden on his cardiovascular system, so it's highly likely that he'll expire very, very soon.

Like killing a single flea on a dog, the passing of a single parasite like the Lardass will yield a benefit to society perhaps too small to notice.

But just like ridding a dog of that single flea, there will be a measure of satisfaction.





He has another one.

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Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: 2012: Top DUmmie #08 (Systematic Chaos)
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2012, 11:23:24 AM »
Kirk, I'm going to commend you for having the stones to come over here and interact - especially as it applies to your "award".  

That's as far as my praise goes.  

Pay attention, though, this may just save your life.

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We've gone to great lengths to explain the pain, mobility and circulation issues I have.  They're not a joke.  Neither is not being able to even do things I like to do for fun for more than short periods without being interrupted by pain.  Neither is barely even being able to make it from the bedroom to the bathroom at this point.  The constant fear that I'm going to end up losing at least part of one or both legs eventually, and being unable to get regular medical attention for any of the remaining problems I still have, is terrifying.

There is an honest, no kidding, reason you have mounds of loose skin, sores, leg pain, "circulation issues", joint issues, bowel issues, etc.  It is as follows:

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Since switching to a plant- and starch-based diet...

Kirk, get the **** off of that diet.  Your body is meant to consume animal fats and proteins.  Human beings are omnivores, not herbivores.  You are doing a ton of damage to your kidneys and liver by consuming nothing but plant toxins and complex carbs.  Minus the animal fats and proteins, your body is consuming muscle along with the fat (more muscle than fat, actually) and you are frigging up your joints with the plant toxins to the point where they are hurting you.  Get the hell off of that diet and some of your problems will start to disappear.  If you are afraid of beef, then eat chicken.  Don't like that?  Eat fish.  You can get healthy cuts of lean protein for not very much money and start to bring your body back into some kind of balance.  Otherwise, Dr. McDougall's fad diet and encouragement for your shit to be big enough to clog a standard toilet is going to kill you.

The second part is to get off of your ass and push through the pain until you get the rust out of your joints!  Yeah, it's going to hurt a lot.  Getting muscles moving and strengthening that haven't been used in a long time is going to involve pain.  Lots of pain and soreness.  But it will go away after you break up that crap in your joints and muscle tissue.  Start with a small goal and work from there, just like you described before when you lived (I believe) in a trailer park.  Your body will remember what that was like and it will respond to it by hardening the muscles and restarting the making of the correct hormones to sustain it.

Feel free to PM me and ask me how I know these things...

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I've known Joe since I worked at a 7-11 just after my 21st birthday...

We took him in so that he wouldn't die on the streets, because that's exactly what would have happened otherwise.  We helped him apply for disability and got him on the road to help through the VA to get his heart failure under control.

...but he also has a lot of emotional baggage...

...he's resisted (or simply isn't able) trying to work his issues out...

...he also suffers from emotional eating/food addiction, and developed congestive heart failure a few years back...

At some point, you have to figure out that unless someone is willing to help themselves, there is no helping them.  You and your wife are this man's crutch just as your "pain" is yours.  Like you, until someone kicks that crutch out from under them, they will always use it; water and electricity seek the path of least resistance and so will people unless you make them uncomfortable enough to change.  That's not cruel, that is the truth.  Some people can be emotional vampires and they will use you until you are just as miserable and low as they are.

You want to get this man help out of the kindness of your heart and loyalty to a friend, that's good and the way it should be.  What you are doing now is not help and it will not change until it is forced or he makes you into what he is by wearing you out emotionally.  That's how these things work, it is only human nature.

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And finally, trying to live on less than $1200 a month, plus some SNAP benefits, blows.  I did some scrap paper calculations a while back and figure that each American taxpayer is fronting about six ten-thousandths of a penny per month, or $0.000006 per month to keep me at a level of bare existence.  That's the disability and the food stamps, by the way.  Mea maxima culpa.  Really.

It doesn't matter how many thousandths of a penny per month your take makes up.  It really doesn't.  A drop of water is a billionth of the total volume in a five gallon bucket, but enough of them will fill up the bucket.  Seeing only yourself and not the greater picture of how many drops of water are leaving the bucket as opposed to how many are going in is the height of "I got mine".  There is a reason I called you "the taker", Kirk, and this makes my point writ large by the very person I directed it towards.  

I don't think you realize what it is you have done by coming here and having the very "conservative monsters" your side makes us out as trying to motivate you to do better.  Do you know how close you truly are to setting yourself free by taking that one step?  Do you know how many successful people you have access to who will be more than happy to guide you for nothing in return but to see you succeed and put water back into the bucket?

I want to point something out to you:  "trying to live on less than $1200 a month, plus some SNAP benefits, blows".  You have been made a terrified slave, Kirk.  You have sold your pride, manhood, and life for "less than $1200 a month, plus some SNAP benefits".  My God, man!  Don't you see what you have turned yourself into?  Don't you realize that you were handed an opportunity by Evil Conservative to drag yourself out of the mire and take the first steps away from the chains you forged for yourself?  A job, with benefits, and a reference on the inside?  How many excuses were made by both yourself and your wife as to why you didn't bother to investigate it further?  So you could hang on to the crumbs given to you from the table of the very greedy ass politicians you support?  And what happens when they don't have enough of other people's money to keep handing it to you?  There's a reason we try to tell you that a government big enough to give it to you is big enough to take it away.  There's a reason we don't rely on them for our daily sustenance beyond our pride in self sufficiency.

BTW, spare me the sarcastic apology.  I gave 22 years of my life for you to have the "freedom" to hurt yourself, apply for and receive "benefits" on my dime, whine about the results and give back "Mea maxima culpa.  Really".  I am sporting a 60% disability rating from the VA, Kirk.  My rating is for things like shoulders, feet, knees, various surgeries, hearing loss, severe tinnitus, etc and I drag my ass out of the door every day and make a living for my family in addition to diet and exercise to try and keep myself healthy.  I am also looking for ways to augment my income with more work in what little spare time I have and the best you can give me is that bullshit?  Still wonder why someone like me is more than a little pissed off by those who make more effort in excuses than in actual productive results?

You're going to have to want things to get better, Kirk, and you're going to have to expend some mighty effort to keep them that way once it starts moving in the right direction.  The good news is that the mighty effort will become habit once you get through the initial "pain" of something new.  You won't always win, it won't be easy, there will be setbacks, but losing weight should have shown you that life lesson already.
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